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Old 05-18-16 | 12:00 PM
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No, I just want to make my point clear when someone else misrepresents it to mean something that I didn't imply.

Bigger, stronger people can carry heavy stuff more easily than smaller, weaker people. Why do some people have a problem with that? It's a fact. Get over it and let it go.
Nobody is disputing that "bigger stronger people" can carry stuff better. They're disputing the absurd notion that a 30 pound backpack is suddenly too heavy for four women in the fictional universe of a movie about people catching fucking ghosts.



I disagree. While Ghostbusters 2 wasn't nearly as laugh out loud funny as the original it was still fun.
Have you watched it recently? I have. It's garbage, and I was a big fan of it for decades. The movie does not hold up, at least for me, anymore.
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Bigger, stronger people can carry heavy stuff more easily than smaller, weaker people. Why do some people have a problem with that? It's a fact. Get over it and let it go.
I don't think the movie looks good at all. But this example is pretty dumb.

In a movie about busting ghosts, suspension of disbelief is in play.
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Have you watched it recently? I have. It's garbage, and I was a big fan of it for decades. The movie does not hold up, at least for me, anymore.
It's been a couple years, but, yes, I have seen it relatively recently. It's not laugh out loud funny, and it's not a classic, but I still enjoy it. There are several good scenes in the movie.

And I'd bet money that this new Ghostbusters movie will make it look like a classic in comparison. If this new one were as acceptable as G2 then I wouldn't have as much of an issue with it.

Based on the two really bad trailers we've seen I don't believe for a second that this one will be nearly as good as G2, and if you hate G2 as much as you've said then you're really going to hate the remake (as will most people who watch it).
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By the way, someone on Reddit posted the entire plot two months back, and it seemed accurate to what has been seen (right down to the dragon ghost/selfie situation). Not sure if that synopsis was linked on the locked thread.
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Old 05-18-16 | 12:14 PM
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My take:

1) The ghosts look incredible. I love the color palette
2) The humor isn't working for me
3) I still believe 85% of the backlash about this film is due to the fact they cast women in the roles
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If I had some kind of agenda I woulda been sucking the dick of the first trailer. Good luck finding a post where I defend it.

The first trailer was not only inept regardless of the content, the content itself was substandard. The fact that Sony rushed a revised trailer out that excised the disastrous Exorcist footage really says it all. It was even more troubling when the concert footage that replaced it was only slightly better.

That concert footage holdover is really the only part of this new trailer that misses the mark. This one actually has effective comedy moments in it. Wiig holding onto the table warning people to leave NYC. The Michael McDonald joke. McCarthy saying its beautiful as Wiig gets drenched in slime. It's like a night-and-day difference. Of course, writing "even worse!" is a lot easier and far less controversial.
I think your standards for "comedy" are lower than most people's.
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3) I still believe 85% of the backlash about this film is due to the fact they cast women in the roles
And specifically not HOT Women...

Had it been all hot women, most of these critics would at least give the film a chance. Marginally effective humor and all.
Fuckin' Knuckle draggers.
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Old 05-18-16 | 12:51 PM
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I think your standards for "comedy" are lower than most people's.
I think your standards are infinity-times lower than mine.

Your post does bring up a valid point: the bronze "high comedy standards" plaque all the haters are gonna receive is admittedly pretty fucking sweet-looking.
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“We have a gift – we see what no one else is willing to see. We do things others can’t do. If there’s a paranormal problem, we’re the ones to answer the call.”
versus
“Twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. No job is too big! No fee is too big!”
Which comedy you gonna call?
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And specifically not HOT Women...

Had it been all hot women, most of these critics would at least give the film a chance. Marginally effective humor and all.
Fuckin' Knuckle draggers.
which is fucked up...


i mean were the original ghostbusters heartthrobs?
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versusWhich comedy you gonna call?
There is no comedy in the first statement.
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And specifically not HOT Women...

Had it been all hot women, most of these critics would at least give the film a chance. Marginally effective humor and all.
Fuckin' Knuckle draggers.
As I've said repeatedly, James Cameron has made nothing but sci-fi and action fantasy films with strong female heroes and no one has ever complained once. It's never even been brought up. As long as the film is good no one says shit.

But if the film looks bad, it's going to be slagged for everything. It's not like everyone is only talking about the female angle. They're talking about the awful costumes, the lame car (what a stupid hood ornament), the bad dialogue. Everything is fair game when slagging a movie that looks like shit. If you showed me a picture of the craft services table I'd tell you there weren't enough roast beef sandwiches. This movie is the lame wildebeest and it's being preyed upon.
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Re: Ghostbusters (2016) - The Trailer
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I think your standards are infinity-times lower than mine.

Your post does bring up a valid point: the bronze "high comedy standards" plaque all the haters are gonna get is admittedly pretty fucking sweet-looking.
It'd be much easier if you would just admit that you are on an SJW, white knight crusade and stop defending what looks to almost everyone to be a shit movie. A movie that looks unfunny, not because the leads are women, but because it looks UNFUNNY.
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versusWhich comedy you gonna call?
One of those lines is a joke. The other isn't. Your comparison is a meaningless one unless every single line in the original Ghostbusters is a joke.
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It'd be much easier if you would just admit that you are on an SJW, white knight crusade and stop defending what looks to almost everyone to be a shit movie. A movie that looks unfunny, not because the leads are women, but because it looks UNFUNNY.
No level-headed person would compare my posts to yours or the 2 or 3 other nuts in this thread and accuse me of being a drone to some larger agenda. The extent of my SJW-ness is not thinking casting female Ghostbusters is an act of war against the male gender.
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"NO! Admit that you are the arbitrarily defined thing that I say you are!"
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No level-headed person would compare my posts to yours or the 2 or 3 other nuts in this thread and accuse me of being a drone to some larger agenda. The extent of my SJW-ness is not thinking casting female Ghostbusters is an act of war against the male gender.
Did you read what I wrote? Are you unable to comprehend this?

It looks UNFUNNY. Not because it stars women. But because it looks UNFUNNY. Not because it is "an act of war against the male gender." But because it looks like absolute SHIT. You have made it quite clear that you believe this backlash is because of misogyny, when plenty of posters have simply stated the opposite. That it looks BAD. The only nut here is you, but I am sure it is difficult for you to see that in your crusade against the evil patriarchy.

TL;DR - It simply looks like SHIT.
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Of course I read it. You spelled "unfunny" and "shit" in all caps and everything.

You're a regular Pauline Kael.
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Old 05-18-16 | 01:17 PM
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What's SJW?

And yea, this still looks terrible. Hopefully nobody else hires Feig and McCarthy after this.
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What's SJW?

And yea, this still looks terrible. Hopefully nobody else hires Feig and McCarthy after this.
SJW = Social Justice Warrior

It's meant to be an insult.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_justice_warrior
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As I've said repeatedly, James Cameron has made nothing but sci-fi and action fantasy films with strong female heroes and no one has ever complained once. It's never even been brought up. As long as the film is good no one says shit.
...played by hot women. Fine actors, sure. Still hot women.
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...played by hot women. Fine actors, sure. Still hot women.
Yeah, but you don't have to be hot to kick ass - or be funny. There are plenty of funny women out there who aren't hot.

None of them are in this movie, but there are a lot of them out there...
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...played by hot women. Fine actors, sure. Still hot women.
Also, "The Internet(tm)" wasn't really a mainstream thing when most of Cameron's flicks were released. Avatar, the only one released in the internet age (maybe Titanic counts, too?), was centered around a dude.
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Old 05-18-16 | 02:39 PM
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Yeah, but you don't have to be hot to kick ass - or be funny. There are plenty of funny women out there who aren't hot.

None of them are in this movie, but there are a lot of them out there...
The reality is that plenty of people (including some on this forum) have criticized this movie because of the relative unattractiveness of the main cast. And any "dream casting" they have done instead inevitably includes a bunch of hot women.

Again, I'm not saying that hot women can't be funny. But there is a higher level of distaste being directed at this movie than it deserves and it's not crazy to think that if it starred a bunch of hot women, it would be getting less.

"Looks like shit but I'd watch Lizzie Caplan in anything "
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The reality is that plenty of people (including some on this forum) have criticized this movie because of the relative unattractiveness of the main cast. And any "dream casting" they have done instead inevitably includes a bunch of hot women.
Ghostbusters wouldn't work with a bunch of hot women, any more than it would work with Chris Hemsworth, Chris Evans, and Tom Cruise playing the scientists. The whole point is that they're supposed to be ordinary, average looking people.

And funny.

I'm not getting the, "Funny," from anyone in this movie.
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