The Official Box Office Discussion Thread
#27
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"Jem and the Holograms" yanked after 2 weeks
"Jem and the Holograms," the movie reboot of the popular late-1980s cartoon, opened in wide release October 23 and has done so poorly that Universal appears to be yanking it from theaters after only two weeks. Though a small number of theaters have the movie on their schedules, it has disappeared from most theaters, and Universal isn't reporting any box-office figures for it after last week.
This is an unheard of move for a movie that was in theaters nationwide.
But when you crunch the numbers, it's clear they had to stop the bleeding.
Things didn't start out well for the movie, as early reviews were awful, with the film currently at a 20% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Many critics noted that it wasn't true to the TV show, basically alienating core fans.
Then the harsh numbers were reported.
"Jem" came in 15th place its opening week in theaters, taking in $1.37 million on 2,413 screens. That's $570 per screen.
Things didn't get any better for the movie its following week. In 2,417 screens, "Jem" took in $387,925. That's only $160 per screen. To compare, the new "Steve Jobs" film, even when it was performing poorly in wide release, was making $1,080 per screen.
But taking the movie out of theaters instead of scaling it down was a shock to box-office vets who thought they’d seen everything.
“Theater chains are contractually obligated to hold a film for two weeks after booking it, however, in all my days as an analyst I’ve never seen a studio actually stop reporting after two weeks,” Jeff Bock, senior box office analyst at Exhibitor Relations, told Business Insider on Monday. “This is unprecedented, and shows just how badly this film flopped. Not only is it the lowest-grossing debut for a studio film this year, but it’s the worst all-time (by a considerable margin) for any film released in 2,000-plus theaters.”
This is an unheard of move for a movie that was in theaters nationwide.
But when you crunch the numbers, it's clear they had to stop the bleeding.
Things didn't start out well for the movie, as early reviews were awful, with the film currently at a 20% rating on Rotten Tomatoes. Many critics noted that it wasn't true to the TV show, basically alienating core fans.
Then the harsh numbers were reported.
"Jem" came in 15th place its opening week in theaters, taking in $1.37 million on 2,413 screens. That's $570 per screen.
Things didn't get any better for the movie its following week. In 2,417 screens, "Jem" took in $387,925. That's only $160 per screen. To compare, the new "Steve Jobs" film, even when it was performing poorly in wide release, was making $1,080 per screen.
But taking the movie out of theaters instead of scaling it down was a shock to box-office vets who thought they’d seen everything.
“Theater chains are contractually obligated to hold a film for two weeks after booking it, however, in all my days as an analyst I’ve never seen a studio actually stop reporting after two weeks,” Jeff Bock, senior box office analyst at Exhibitor Relations, told Business Insider on Monday. “This is unprecedented, and shows just how badly this film flopped. Not only is it the lowest-grossing debut for a studio film this year, but it’s the worst all-time (by a considerable margin) for any film released in 2,000-plus theaters.”
#28
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Very smart move on their behalf, now they can get it onto VOD platforms while the advertising for the theatrical release is still fresh. Not as fast as Paranormal and Scout's Guide will be, but plenty fast just the same.
However, Jem was the #4 worst opening for over 2,000 screens, not #1.
Oogieloves, Delgo and Saw 10th Anniversary have it beat by a considerable amount.
However, Jem was the #4 worst opening for over 2,000 screens, not #1.
Oogieloves, Delgo and Saw 10th Anniversary have it beat by a considerable amount.
#29
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Very smart move on their behalf, now they can get it onto VOD platforms while the advertising for the theatrical release is still fresh. Not as fast as Paranormal and Scout's Guide will be, but plenty fast just the same.
However, Jem was the #4 worst opening for over 2,000 screens, not #1.
Oogieloves, Delgo and Saw 10th Anniversary have it beat by a considerable amount.
However, Jem was the #4 worst opening for over 2,000 screens, not #1.
Oogieloves, Delgo and Saw 10th Anniversary have it beat by a considerable amount.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jem and the Holograms ends up on VOD before the end of the month. In a situation like this, it wouldn't create bad blood between Universal and the theater chains due to the film pulling in a whopping PSA of $15 a day before being yanked.
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Glad Peanuts made a lot. It was a damn good film and very true to the comics. Glad my childhood favorites didn't get destroyed (Paddington and Peanuts were and are my jam).
#31
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Since Wednesday was a holiday, Tuesday and Wednesday numbers were way up.
Spectre made $7.3m on Tuesday, $7.9m on Wednesday ($4.3 on Thurs) and stands at $93.5m
Peanuts made $3.05m on Tuesday, $7.77m on Wednesday ($1.5m on Thurs) and stands at $58.3m
The Martian also crossed $200m
Some movie called Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (Bollywood) opened at #5 yesterday with $387k
Spectre is looking at $33m - $35m for the weekend, The Peanuts Movie is looking at $28.7m (though I expect it to do better), The Martian is looking at $6.8m, and Love the COopers is looking at $6m - $8m.
The 33 looks to make between $3.5m and $6m
Spectre made $7.3m on Tuesday, $7.9m on Wednesday ($4.3 on Thurs) and stands at $93.5m
Peanuts made $3.05m on Tuesday, $7.77m on Wednesday ($1.5m on Thurs) and stands at $58.3m
The Martian also crossed $200m
Some movie called Prem Ratan Dhan Payo (Bollywood) opened at #5 yesterday with $387k
Spectre is looking at $33m - $35m for the weekend, The Peanuts Movie is looking at $28.7m (though I expect it to do better), The Martian is looking at $6.8m, and Love the COopers is looking at $6m - $8m.
The 33 looks to make between $3.5m and $6m
#32
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Weekend Estimates for 11/13 - 11/15:
Spectre has made $550m+ worldwide so far, and is sprinting toward profitability.
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Spectre has made $550m+ worldwide so far, and is sprinting toward profitability.
Last edited by RichC2; 11-15-15 at 03:37 PM.
#33
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11/20 - 11/22 Actuals:
The Hunger Games franchise has now grossed $1.272B domestically, the highest opening and grossing went to Catching Fire which pulled $158m opening weekend and grossed $424.7m total / domestic.
Domestic seems a little more important this time as Lionsgate appears to have sold most offshore rights to recoup production costs.
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The Hunger Games franchise has now grossed $1.272B domestically, the highest opening and grossing went to Catching Fire which pulled $158m opening weekend and grossed $424.7m total / domestic.
Domestic seems a little more important this time as Lionsgate appears to have sold most offshore rights to recoup production costs.
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Creed finished in 3rd this weekend
1). The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 (LGF), 4,175 theaters (0) / $20.8M Fri. (+100%) / 3-day cume: $51.6M (-50%) /5-day cume:$75.75M /Total cume: $198.3M/Wk 2
2). The Good Dinosaur (DIS), 3,749 theaters / $15.1M Fri. (+130%) / 3-day cume: $39.2M /5-day cume: $55.6M /Wk 1
3). Creed (MGM/New Line/WB), 3,404 theaters / 3-day cume: $30.1M /5-day cume: $42.6M /Wk 1
4). Spectre (SONY), 2,940 theaters (-719)/ $5.2M Fri. (+94%)/ 3-day cume: $12.8M (-15%)/5-day cume: $18.2M/ Total cume: $176.1M /Wk 4
5). The Peanuts Movie (FOX), 3,006 theaters (-665)/ 3-day cume: $9.7M (-27%)/5-day cume:$13.6M/Total cume: $116.8M /Wk 4
1). The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 (LGF), 4,175 theaters (0) / $20.8M Fri. (+100%) / 3-day cume: $51.6M (-50%) /5-day cume:$75.75M /Total cume: $198.3M/Wk 2
2). The Good Dinosaur (DIS), 3,749 theaters / $15.1M Fri. (+130%) / 3-day cume: $39.2M /5-day cume: $55.6M /Wk 1
3). Creed (MGM/New Line/WB), 3,404 theaters / 3-day cume: $30.1M /5-day cume: $42.6M /Wk 1
4). Spectre (SONY), 2,940 theaters (-719)/ $5.2M Fri. (+94%)/ 3-day cume: $12.8M (-15%)/5-day cume: $18.2M/ Total cume: $176.1M /Wk 4
5). The Peanuts Movie (FOX), 3,006 theaters (-665)/ 3-day cume: $9.7M (-27%)/5-day cume:$13.6M/Total cume: $116.8M /Wk 4
#37
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Weekend Estimates for Thanksgiving Weekend 2015:
Mildly surprised that Carol did better in its second weekend over Danish Girl in its first. Brooklyn and Spotlight are doing well in their expanded releases
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Mildly surprised that Carol did better in its second weekend over Danish Girl in its first. Brooklyn and Spotlight are doing well in their expanded releases
#38
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Hard to judge because of the holiday, but that's one of the lowest opening weekends for a Pixar movie no?
Edit - reading Box Office Mojo's write up is interesting:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4126&p=.htm
Edit - reading Box Office Mojo's write up is interesting:
http://www.boxofficemojo.com/news/?id=4126&p=.htm
Coming in second is Pixar's The Good Dinosaur, a story that will be interesting to see play out in the media. On one hand it scored the fourth highest Thanksgiving weekend—three-day and five-day—opening of all time with an estimated $39.19 million and $55.5 million respectively.
On the other hand, those interested in the Pixar brand will be quick to note The Good Dinosaur's three-day signifies the worst opening for a Pixar film since Toy Story back in 1995. Obviously, the Wednesday opening played a role in that number being a little softer, but even if you compare the $55.5M five-day to previous Pixar three-day openings it ranks no higher than twelfth, five million behind the $60.1 million Cars tallied back in 2006. History aside, the "A" CinemaScore is a good sign for the pic, which doesn't have any new competition until Alvin and the Chipmunks The Road Chip arrives on December 18, but by that time all the talk will be about Star Wars: The Force Awakens anyway.
On the other hand, those interested in the Pixar brand will be quick to note The Good Dinosaur's three-day signifies the worst opening for a Pixar film since Toy Story back in 1995. Obviously, the Wednesday opening played a role in that number being a little softer, but even if you compare the $55.5M five-day to previous Pixar three-day openings it ranks no higher than twelfth, five million behind the $60.1 million Cars tallied back in 2006. History aside, the "A" CinemaScore is a good sign for the pic, which doesn't have any new competition until Alvin and the Chipmunks The Road Chip arrives on December 18, but by that time all the talk will be about Star Wars: The Force Awakens anyway.
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The advertising has been particularly weak with this one.
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Estimates for 12/4 - 12/6
1). The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 (LGF), 4,086 theaters (-89) / $5.7M Fri. (-73%) / 3-day cume: $18.8M (-64%) /Total cume: $227.3M/Wk 3
2). Krampus (U/Legendary), 2,902 theaters / $6.05M Fri. / 3-day cume: $15.3M /Wk 1
3). The Good Dinosaur (DIS), 3,749 theaters / $3.4M Fri. (-78%) / 3-day cume: $15.1M (-61%)/Total cume: $75.6M/Wk 2
4). Creed (MGM/New Line/WB), 3,424 theaters (+20) / $4.6M Fri. (-61%) / 3-day cume: $14.6M (-51%)/Total cume: $64.2M /Wk 2
5). Spectre (SONY/MGM), 2,840 theaters (-100)/ $1.6M Fri. (-69%)/ 3-day cume: $5.6M (-57%)/Total cume: $184.6M /Wk 5
6). The Night Before (SONY), 2,794, theaters (-166)/ $1.58M Fri.(-51%)/ 3-day cume: $4.9M (-41%)/Total cume: $32M/Wk 3
7). The Peanuts Movie (FOX), 2,917 theaters (-172)/ $782K Fri. (-80%) / 3-day cume: $3.4M (-60%)/Total cume: $121.3M /Wk 5
8). Spotlight (OPRD), 980 theaters (+83) / $828K Fri. (-50%) / 3-day cume: $2.9 (-35%) /Total cume: $16.6M /Wk 5
9). Brooklyn (FSL), 906 theaters (+61) / $744K Fri. (-49%)/3-day cume: $2.7M (-32%)/Total cume: $11.4M /Wk 5
10). Secret In Their Eyes (STX), 2,147 theaters (-245) / $605K Fri.(-64%) / 3-day cume: $2M (-54%)/Total cume: $17.3M/Wk 3
11). The Martian (FOX), 1,140 theaters (-280) / $453K Fri. (-66%)/ 3-day cume: $1.6M (-50%)/ Total cume: $220.8M / Wk 10
12). Love The Coopers (LGF), 1,639 theaters (-228)/ $441K Fri. (-64%) / 3-day cume: $1.5M (-51%)/Total cume: $22.7M/Wk 4
13). Chi-Raq (RSA), 305 theaters / $435K Fri. / 3-day cume: $1.2M /Wk 1
1). The Hunger Games: Mockingjay – Part 2 (LGF), 4,086 theaters (-89) / $5.7M Fri. (-73%) / 3-day cume: $18.8M (-64%) /Total cume: $227.3M/Wk 3
2). Krampus (U/Legendary), 2,902 theaters / $6.05M Fri. / 3-day cume: $15.3M /Wk 1
3). The Good Dinosaur (DIS), 3,749 theaters / $3.4M Fri. (-78%) / 3-day cume: $15.1M (-61%)/Total cume: $75.6M/Wk 2
4). Creed (MGM/New Line/WB), 3,424 theaters (+20) / $4.6M Fri. (-61%) / 3-day cume: $14.6M (-51%)/Total cume: $64.2M /Wk 2
5). Spectre (SONY/MGM), 2,840 theaters (-100)/ $1.6M Fri. (-69%)/ 3-day cume: $5.6M (-57%)/Total cume: $184.6M /Wk 5
6). The Night Before (SONY), 2,794, theaters (-166)/ $1.58M Fri.(-51%)/ 3-day cume: $4.9M (-41%)/Total cume: $32M/Wk 3
7). The Peanuts Movie (FOX), 2,917 theaters (-172)/ $782K Fri. (-80%) / 3-day cume: $3.4M (-60%)/Total cume: $121.3M /Wk 5
8). Spotlight (OPRD), 980 theaters (+83) / $828K Fri. (-50%) / 3-day cume: $2.9 (-35%) /Total cume: $16.6M /Wk 5
9). Brooklyn (FSL), 906 theaters (+61) / $744K Fri. (-49%)/3-day cume: $2.7M (-32%)/Total cume: $11.4M /Wk 5
10). Secret In Their Eyes (STX), 2,147 theaters (-245) / $605K Fri.(-64%) / 3-day cume: $2M (-54%)/Total cume: $17.3M/Wk 3
11). The Martian (FOX), 1,140 theaters (-280) / $453K Fri. (-66%)/ 3-day cume: $1.6M (-50%)/ Total cume: $220.8M / Wk 10
12). Love The Coopers (LGF), 1,639 theaters (-228)/ $441K Fri. (-64%) / 3-day cume: $1.5M (-51%)/Total cume: $22.7M/Wk 4
13). Chi-Raq (RSA), 305 theaters / $435K Fri. / 3-day cume: $1.2M /Wk 1
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So glad to see Krampus take the top spot, even if it doesn't hold it for the weekend. After the debacle that was Trick r Treat's release (or lack there of) Dougherty deserves this.
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Weekend Actuals (12/4 - 12/6)
The tracking for Krampus put it at $10 - $13m originally, so I imagine Universal is quite happy with the turnout it had. The advertising budget is reportedly under $10m as well.
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The tracking for Krampus put it at $10 - $13m originally, so I imagine Universal is quite happy with the turnout it had. The advertising budget is reportedly under $10m as well.
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The lack of advertising didn't help. Perhaps Disney just didn't have any confidence in this film.
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There's just a number of factors working against them on this one, and November is usually a strong release date for animated (Frozen, for instance, was released on November 22nd and grossed $400m domestic / $1.28b ww).
Lacked advertising, lacked a hook, lacked the overwhelmingly positive reviews that usually come with Pixar (this is the lowest aggregate Pixar movie not called Cars, though admittingly, not by much). And the character design isn't up to typical Pixar "We can make a toy out of this!" standards.
I think the movie will have legs moving forward though, especially with school being out in a week, if it can stick around that long. Star Wars will dominate obviously, but it's tough to say counter programming won't work.
Lacked advertising, lacked a hook, lacked the overwhelmingly positive reviews that usually come with Pixar (this is the lowest aggregate Pixar movie not called Cars, though admittingly, not by much). And the character design isn't up to typical Pixar "We can make a toy out of this!" standards.
I think the movie will have legs moving forward though, especially with school being out in a week, if it can stick around that long. Star Wars will dominate obviously, but it's tough to say counter programming won't work.
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12/11 - 12/13/2015:
In the Heart of the Sea tanked as expected, apparently it's tough to make a good movie out of a mediocre script after all.
Box Office was low all around. Very nice $90k/screen avg for The Big Short though.
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In the Heart of the Sea tanked as expected, apparently it's tough to make a good movie out of a mediocre script after all.
Box Office was low all around. Very nice $90k/screen avg for The Big Short though.