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Old 10-12-17, 03:13 PM   #1151
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

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Rey is a Palpatine
The problem is Rey is not 30 years old.
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Old 10-12-17, 03:14 PM   #1152
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Old 10-12-17, 08:17 PM   #1153
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So I watched the trailer again, and I am still of the same opinion about it. The trailer didn't really do anything for me. I didn't feel any "wow" moments during it. The trailer for Force Awakens had some great "wow" moments. Seeing Han and Chewy was the big one. This one was sort of blah for me. Don't get me wrong, I am still excited for the new movie and will definitely see it, most likely multiple times, but the trailer didn't increase my excitement for the film.
I agree. But I also remember that The Phantom Menace trailer blew. Me. Away. And we remember how that shit turned out!

Like you said though, Iíll still see it in the theater and will most certainly buy the Blu-ray when itís released, so I guess it doesnít really matter if the trailer is good or not.
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Old 10-12-17, 08:37 PM   #1154
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Old 10-12-17, 08:56 PM   #1155
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Snoke is Rey's father.
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Old 10-12-17, 09:28 PM   #1156
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I agree. But I also remember that The Phantom Menace trailer blew. Me. Away. And we remember how that shit turned out!
I fondly remember tuning in to watch it on E!TV and then spending like 8 hours downloading it via AOL.
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I just realized in the trailer Han Solo reincarnated as a cute little owl.


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Old 10-12-17, 10:26 PM   #1158
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if disney had the balls, they move rey to the dark side of the force.
I think Disney might see a problem with that since they’ve built Rey up as a strong female character and role model to young girls. At this point I think they painted themselves into a corner with how bad Rey can get.
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Old 10-12-17, 11:09 PM   #1159
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Yeah, I think Disney iwll play it safe and copy ESB. Rey's family should be explained in this.

I don't know what Rian means by "different".
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Old 10-13-17, 05:49 AM   #1160
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I think Disney might see a problem with that since they’ve built Rey up as a strong female character and role model to young girls. At this point I think they painted themselves into a corner with how bad Rey can get.
While I agree with you on your point, I think that have some wiggle room. If they make Rey turn to the darkside in TLJ and then turns back to the light in Epsiode 9, then they can pull it off with the fans. Now I don't know if that will be too clichť because it maybe too obvious. Especially if she is doing a head fake the whole time and giving into the darkside with Snoke.

I still think that there are a lot of options because this is the first Trilogy where they are focusing on 2 characters (Rey and Ren), compared to the PT being about Anakin and the OT being about Luke.

I have to believe that Rey or Ren (or both) will switch sides in either Episode 8 or 9, or maybe they both join forces in Episode 9? I would say if they are going to sacrifice one of these main characters at the end of Episode 9, it would probably be Kylo Ren.
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Old 10-13-17, 07:55 AM   #1161
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While I agree with you on your point, I think that have some wiggle room. If they make Rey turn to the darkside in TLJ and then turns back to the light in Epsiode 9, then they can pull it off with the fans. Now I don't know if that will be too clichť because it maybe too obvious. Especially if she is doing a head fake the whole time and giving into the darkside with Snoke.
Sounds like Snape at the end of The Half Blood Prince novel, where there's the whole good guy/bad guy cliffhanger that led into the final book.
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Old 10-13-17, 09:28 AM   #1162
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Maybe they're going for a Dark Empire thing? It was one of the few graphic novels that George specifically mentioned as liking.

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It has Luke intentionally going to the dark side under the tutelage of a cloned Emperor Palpatine to learn the secrets, before being pulled back by the love of his family and friends.


It's no longer canon, but Disney/LFL is free to pull concepts from all the old books and comics as they see fit.
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Old 10-13-17, 11:51 AM   #1163
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I agree. But I also remember that The Phantom Menace trailer blew. Me. Away. And we remember how that shit turned out!

Like you said though, Iíll still see it in the theater and will most certainly buy the Blu-ray when itís released, so I guess it doesnít really matter if the trailer is good or not.
Completely agree on TPM trailer. But we also hadn't had any new Star Wars movies for 16 years at that point. That drove the excitement for me, at least partially.

And the same held from Force Awakens. Less of a layoff between new Star Wars movies, but still the same effect. Han and Chewy are home!! ETC.

This trailer had none of that for me.
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Old 10-13-17, 12:10 PM   #1164
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Completely agree on TPM trailer. But we also hadn't had any new Star Wars movies for 16 years at that point. That drove the excitement for me, at least partially.

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I actually thought all of the PT trailers were great, as they always started with Vader breathing and that pumped you up for the rest of the trailer. That's why I don't go crazy over these trailers anymore because I've sort of learned that a good trailer does not equal a good movie. I still think that people who go into these blockbuster sequels expecting it to be the greatest movie in the world are going to be let down. These are sequels/prequels so they are naturally going to be inferior simply because there is only so much new stuff you can throw at a viewer. Movies like The Empire Strikes Back and The Godfather 2 are pure exceptions to the rules, but 95% of sequels are just not going to live up to the original movie. I'm walking into TLJ the same way I did with TFA, I'm thinking I will enjoy it but I'm not expecting Empire Strikes Back sequel greatness.
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Old 10-13-17, 03:55 PM   #1165
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Yeah, the AOTC "Breathing" trailer is my favorite PT trailer. Also like the AOTC "Clone War" trailer.

We should get the international trailer for the Last Jedi next month. Some might like that one more.

Rey asks Kylo for help - real or Force vision?

If it's real, I wonder if it would actually lead to romance. Impossible?
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Old 10-13-17, 05:08 PM   #1166
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Snoke is Rey's father.
Snoke and Palpatine are Rey's adoptive fathers.
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Old 10-13-17, 05:56 PM   #1167
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Rey asks Kylo for help - real or Force vision?

If it's real, I wonder if it would actually lead to romance. Impossible?
My guess is that's a misdirection. Seems to me those clips are from two different scenes. I believe Rey is actually talking to Luke. The Kylo segment appears to be a different location/time. Notice the difference in lighting. Rey appears to be sitting by a campfire, and Kylo appears to be somewhere that has exploded/is burning down. Ash falling next to him. Just guessing of course. Haha!
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Old 10-13-17, 09:25 PM   #1168
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At least George Lucas never put an Ewok in the Millennium Falcon cockpit.

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Old 10-13-17, 09:27 PM   #1169
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Snoke and Palpatine are Rey's adoptive fathers.
Sith law says there must be two ...
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Old 10-13-17, 09:33 PM   #1170
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Good point. Real, Force vision, or very misleading edit.
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Old 10-13-17, 09:40 PM   #1171
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Sith law says there must be two ...
He said "adoptive fathers". The whole master-apprentice bs can and will be broken soon anyways.

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Old 10-14-17, 06:43 PM   #1172
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Does Rey need to have a connection to an already-known family? In-movie, there's no hint that she comes from a known bloodline. It's all been our speculation. Maybe the mystery of her past is simply how she was taken away from the Smith family cuz she was too f'n powerful to be contained.

But Hell... 30 years after ROTJ? Maybe she's Rowan Freemaker's daughter.
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Old 10-14-17, 09:03 PM   #1173
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Does Rey need to have a connection to an already-known family? In-movie, there's no hint that she comes from a known bloodline. It's all been our speculation. Maybe the mystery of her past is simply how she was taken away from the Smith family cuz she was too f'n powerful to be contained.
The whole idea behind the Star Wars numbered saga movies seems to be a multigenerational epic that follows the Skywalker family, so I would expect the "forcey" Reyto have some connection to the Skywalker clan.
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He said "adoptive fathers". The whole master-apprentice bs can and will be broken soon anyways.

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Old 10-15-17, 08:43 AM   #1175
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The whole idea behind the Star Wars numbered saga movies seems to be a multigenerational epic that follows the Skywalker family, so I would expect the "forcey" Reyto have some connection to the Skywalker clan.
Does Kylo not fit this criteria?
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