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Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Old 10-15-17, 04:05 PM
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Maybe he does.

But Snoke says Rey is special... a midi-chlorian child of the Force?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Kylo Ren being a third generation Skywalker is not a maybe. It's a fact.

The son of Leia is the exact same in the Skywalker bloodline as a potential daughter of Luke.

Rey could or could not be a Skywalker. I'm 50/50 personally. I'm just reinforcing that the story does not require it by any means. Kylo being the grandson of Anakin fulfills the "Skywalker family saga" checkbox as much as anyone else would.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by Ranger
Maybe he does.

But Snoke says Rey is special... a midi-chlorian child of the Force?
I wonder how much this new trilogy will try to avoid all that midi-chlorian nonsense.

I’m hoping that Rey turns out to NOT be a Skywalker but has there ever been a mention of anyone outside the Skywalker family who is powerful with the force? They’ve been talking themselves into a corner for years with all the Skywalkers being chosen ones stuff.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Kylo Ren being a third generation Skywalker is not a maybe. It's a fact.

The son of Leia is the exact same in the Skywalker bloodline as a potential daughter of Luke.

Rey could or could not be a Skywalker. I'm 50/50 personally. I'm just reinforcing that the story does not require it by any means. Kylo being the grandson of Anakin fulfills the "Skywalker family saga" checkbox as much as anyone else would.
I agree. Let's just say JJ/KK/Disney knew whose Rey's parentage was when writing Episode 7. There is nothing in TFA that would make sense that she's a Skywalker/Solo as it would make Luke, Leia and Han look pretty crappy.

If she is Luke's kid and he just dumped her off at Jakuu and waved bye bye then he looks just as bad as Padme losing the will to live. Atleast Kenobi/Yoda sent Luke/Leia to good families and watched over them. Rey is dumped off and is essentially on her own as a kid.

If she is Han/Leia's kid then it doesn't make sense regarding their actions in the movie. Han doesn't really care when she is captured by Kylo as Finn runs to ask him to save her on Maz's planet. And if she is a love child of Leia then when did that happen and how did Han not know?

The only thing they can get away with is making her the granddaughter of Obiwan. He does say, "You're taking your first steps...." when she grabs the lightsaber. But then you have to explain that story of his love child and where her parents fit in this and did they have Force powers? Maybe they were thinking of sending her to Luke's academy and once it is destroyed they decide to drop her in obscurity?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by mcnabb

If she is Luke's kid and he just dumped her off at Jakuu and waved bye bye then he looks just as bad as Padme losing the will to live. Atleast Kenobi/Yoda sent Luke/Leia to good families and watched over them. Rey is dumped off and is essentially on her own as a kid.
Not necessarily. Lor San Tekka was a big time casting for the incredibly small role that he ended up having. Perhaps he was playing the Kenobi role watching over Rey. Kenobi was watching over Luke because it was thought that he was the last hope. They never wanted Rey to be that hope in any form after what happened with Kylo (I can't make that timeline work in my head but I'm just throwing it out there)
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

there is 0% chance that the term midichlorian is used in ep 8 or 9.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by GuessWho
Does Kylo not fit this criteria?
Yes, but he feels more like a secondary character. Rey is the obvious protagonist like Luke was in the OT.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by mcnabb
There is nothing in TFA that would make sense that she's a Skywalker/Solo as it would make Luke, Leia and Han look pretty crappy.

If she is Luke's kid and he just dumped her off at Jakuu and waved bye bye then he looks just as bad as Padme losing the will to live. Atleast Kenobi/Yoda sent Luke/Leia to good families and watched over them. Rey is dumped off and is essentially on her own as a kid.
When I was watching TFA, it occurred to me that Rey was Luke's daughter. He was training her in the ways of the Force when Ben turned and wiped out Luke's Jedi academy. Ben was unable to murder his cousin, so he abducted her and dumped her off on Jakku after Force wiping her memory. After losing his Jedi students and his daughter (and wife, too?) Luke then exiled himself after his failure.

Another possibility is that Luke knocked up some chick and he never knew about his daughter.

The only thing they can get away with is making her the granddaughter of Obiwan. He does say, "You're taking your first steps...." when she grabs the lightsaber. But then you have to explain that story of his love child and where her parents fit in this and did they have Force powers? Maybe they were thinking of sending her to Luke's academy and once it is destroyed they decide to drop her in obscurity?
No reason she couldn't be both. Obi-Wan, while he's on Tattoine, gets busy with a lady and has a daughter who's a few years younger than Luke. Luke then finds this daughter and hooks up with her, and produces Rey.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

My theory:
Spoiler:
She is a clone of Palpatine - more a blend of EU with Clone Wars science
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Hopefully they will explain Lor more in Last Jedi. Lor did know Kylo.

Rey is 20 and kylo is 30. Rey is about 5 when dropped off at Jakku and Kylo is about 15 when he betrayed the Jedi. So there likely is a connection.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

If Rey was raised by Luke or Han/Leia until about the age of five, then left on Jakku, where did her accent come from? The movie shows her being left with Unkar Plutt, and she certainly didn't get her accent from him. So the reveal of her parentage had better jibe with her accent, which to me means and cannot be a Skywalker. Unless, I guess, if Luke got busy with a woman with a British accent. But then, where did Rey's mother's accent come from if she's a Kenobi?

Ugh, nevermind. One thing for sure: she cannot be a Solo.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

If Rey has to be a descendant of a known character, I really hope it's Obi-Wan. I'll be really annoyed if she turns out to be a Skywalker.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

It's a flip of the original trilogy. A Skywalker (Solo) will balance the Force once again.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Considering there’s a certain element of Vader worship going on, I’d guess Rey is an Anakin clone if she’s a clone of anyone. Could be that the Knights of Ren made a clone, and maybe Luke rescued the baby from them at some point, and she’s been watched ever since to make sure she doesn’t go all Sithy.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Rey is the love child of Bosch and IG-88.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

The Clone Wars series (totally canon BTW) showed Obi Wan having a girlfriend that he would have left the Jedi Order for if she had asked.

It's possible she found him on Tattooine during his exile and they had a child.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by milo bloom
The Clone Wars series (totally canon BTW) showed Obi Wan having a girlfriend that he would have left the Jedi Order for if she had asked.

It's possible she found him on Tattooine during his exile and they had a child.
Maybe they will use the Obi-Wan spinoff to fill in the gaps.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by milo bloom
The Clone Wars series (totally canon BTW) showed Obi Wan having a girlfriend that he would have left the Jedi Order for if she had asked.

It's possible she found him on Tattooine during his exile and they had a child.
Totally not possible because:

Spoiler:

Darth Maul killed her (Duchess Satine) in one of the episodes
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

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I agree. Let's just say JJ/KK/Disney knew whose Rey's parentage was when writing Episode 7. There is nothing in TFA that would make sense that she's a Skywalker/Solo as it would make Luke, Leia and Han look pretty crappy.

If she is Luke's kid and he just dumped her off at Jakuu and waved bye bye then he looks just as bad as Padme losing the will to live. Atleast Kenobi/Yoda sent Luke/Leia to good families and watched over them. Rey is dumped off and is essentially on her own as a kid.

If she is Han/Leia's kid then it doesn't make sense regarding their actions in the movie. Han doesn't really care when she is captured by Kylo as Finn runs to ask him to save her on Maz's planet. And if she is a love child of Leia then when did that happen and how did Han not know?

The only thing they can get away with is making her the granddaughter of Obiwan. He does say, "You're taking your first steps...." when she grabs the lightsaber. But then you have to explain that story of his love child and where her parents fit in this and did they have Force powers? Maybe they were thinking of sending her to Luke's academy and once it is destroyed they decide to drop her in obscurity?
Luke was left with a loving family, while Ben stayed close by for protection.

Rey was left with a junk dealer who took advantage of her skills, and she was on her own it seems.

I have no doubt that whoever left Rey was probably not one of our "good" characters.
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by Mabuse
Rey is the love child of "Bosch" and IG-88.
The German electronics company?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

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Luke was left with a loving family, while Ben stayed close by for protection.

Rey was left with a junk dealer who took advantage of her skills, and she was on her own it seems.
Luke: I want to go to school and learn new things, make a future for myself!
Owen: Fuck off, do my harvesting.

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Luke: I want to go to school and learn new things, make a future for myself!
Owen: Fuck off, do my harvesting.

But he got free blue milk at least!
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
But he got free blue milk at least!
He's sick of blue milk.

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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by Mabuse
Rey is the love child of Bosch and IG-88.
This guy?
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Re: Star Wars: Episode VIII - The Last Jedi (12/15/17, W/D: Rian Johnson)

Originally Posted by DthRdrX
Totally not possible because:

Spoiler:

Darth Maul killed her (Duchess Satine) in one of the episodes
How did I miss that?

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