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Artman 02-12-11 12:44 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Well, every director needs a start... I'd rather see em take a chance with someone than go with a standard, boring director that's just taking a paycheck.

Hokeyboy 02-12-11 05:57 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by troystiffler (Post 10635617)
Bring back the artistic risk (yea, fuck you) that I saw in Die Hard 3. It was very quotable. For it's time, the 'racist' stuff was very biting. The stunts were great (as they were in all four Die Hards). The camerawork and timing was fucking great. John McTiernan knew what was up.

Too bad it was horribly edited, constantly rewritten on the set, and a generally crappy movie.

There's only the first one. 2 is a retread, 3 is a mess, 4 is fucking awful... and now 5... for fuck's sake...

Supermallet 02-12-11 06:06 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Three is awesome. Simon says you shut the hell up!

Hokeyboy 02-12-11 06:22 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Simon says "The Juwes are the men who won't be blamed for nothing." And isn't that all we need to know about Simon? The answer, surprisingly, may surprise you! Somehow!

Solid Snake 02-12-11 08:20 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10636063)
Three is awesome. Simon says you shut the hell up!

as a kid...3 was my favorite. I still enjoy it now...but that 3rd act loses it for me a bit. The whole bomb in the boat and etc etc...

Believe it or not, it was Jeremy Irons that made me like this film a lot as a kid. He was pretty freaking cool to me as a kid. And he's still awesome now. He's the one thing that pulls this movie through for me....the thing that makes this a bit more watchable. Otherwise....I wouldn't like it.

gmanca 02-12-11 09:42 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
I think the bit with the tunnel and the trucks bogs the movie down but everything else was pretty good. And yeah Jeremy Irons is what makes the movie with Sam Jackson number 2 and McClane third.

MrSmearkase 02-12-11 09:47 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Die Hard With A Vengeance is still leagues ahead of Live Free or Die Hard, so let's aim our hate appropriately, okay?

Eric D. 02-12-11 11:13 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
It can't possibly be any worse than Live Free or Die Hard, right?!? Because that would be a stunning achievement.

Supermallet 02-12-11 11:33 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Plenty of movies every year are worse than Live Free or Die Hard.

anomynous 02-12-11 11:40 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Live Free or Die Hard > Die Hard 2

OutRun2 02-13-11 12:10 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 10636421)
Live Free or Die Hard > Die Hard 2


Whoah....lemme take a puff of that ganja man!

Supermallet 02-13-11 12:49 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 10636421)
Live Free or Die Hard > Die Hard 2

Agreed.

GenPion 02-13-11 01:01 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
I like to pretend the second one doesn't even exist. That's why I'm glad they titled the films the way they did and released them individually on Blu-ray.

The Die Hard film series looks like this on my shelf:

1) Die Hard
2) Die Hard With a Vengeance
3) Live Free or Die Hard

Eric D. 02-13-11 01:56 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10636410)
Plenty of movies every year are worse than Live Free or Die Hard.

So what? I was referencing the new sequel.

wm lopez 02-13-11 02:26 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
If Hollywood would show some balls and make the terrorists Arab then you'll have a movie.
TRUE LIES, DELTA FORCE had good Arab bad guys.

jrsl76 02-13-11 03:12 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
My preference:

1.) Die Hard
2.) Live Free Or Die Hard
3.) Die Hard 2: Die Harder
4.) Die Hard With A Vengeance

Hokeyboy 02-13-11 10:19 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
To badly paraphrase Kim Novak, I could eat a can of film and shit a better movie than Live Free or Die Hard.

anomynous 02-13-11 11:00 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by OutRun2 (Post 10636445)
Whoah....lemme take a puff of that ganja man!

It's true

Hokeyboy 02-13-11 11:05 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
The only thing that was missing from the irredeemably awful "Live Free Or Die Hard" was an anvil falling on John McClane's head after being pushed off a cliff, and him opening up an umbrella over his head, turning to the camera, and waving bye-bye as it landed on him with a loud BOINGGGGGGG...

Gunde 02-13-11 11:18 AM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by GenPion (Post 10636478)
I like to pretend the second one doesn't even exist. That's why I'm glad they titled the films the way they did and released them individually on Blu-ray.

The Die Hard film series looks like this on my shelf:

1) Die Hard
2) Die Hard With a Vengeance
3) Live Free or Die Hard

Please get rid of 1 and 2. You don't deserve to own them.

discostu1337 02-13-11 12:40 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by GenPion (Post 10636478)
I like to pretend the second one doesn't even exist. That's why I'm glad they titled the films the way they did and released them individually on Blu-ray.

The Die Hard film series looks like this on my shelf:

1) Die Hard
2) Die Hard With a Vengeance
3) Live Free or Die Hard

100% exactly how mine looks, 2 is garbage and I pretend they never made it.

Troy Stiffler 02-13-11 01:13 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 

Originally Posted by wm lopez (Post 10636519)
If Hollywood would show some balls and make the terrorists Arab then you'll have a movie.
TRUE LIES, DELTA FORCE had good Arab bad guys.

I'd love to see Die Hard 5 with middle-eastern terrorists.

Strevlac 02-13-11 05:27 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
2 was pretty cool but none of Renny Harlins action scenes are up to the first film. McClane is still McClane, he loves his wife, Sgt Powell drops by for a cameo, and anything Fred Thompson is in benefits just because of his presence. If the first film never existed I think this would be thought of more fondly.

3 is a disjointed mess and one of the biggest dissapointmens I've ever had in a movie theater. Out of 2 hours and twenty minutes, about 45 seconds displays that classic John McTiernan awesomeness, the elevator scene and the steering-wheel gag from freeway car chase.

4 is a Len Wiseman film.

tommyp007 02-13-11 05:50 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
I love Die Hard and Die Hard 2. 3 was pretty good...4 less so.

rennervision 02-13-11 07:18 PM

Re: Die Hard 5 >> Bruce Willis (tentative 2011)
 
Not sure what there is to defend about DH2. By all accounts, even the franchise itself pretends like it doesn't exist. When the third one begins, McClane is once again a broken-down loser cop in NYC and separated from his wife, completely erasing the events of the prior film. (And the omission of a "3" in the title seems deliberate to me.)

DH2 depicting him as an upstanding L.A. cop (after the great first impression he made with the police chief in the first movie!) seems very out of place. And Holly once again becoming a hostage in a terrorist plot on Christmas Eve with the same news reporter on board the plane really stretches suspension of disbelief.

The fact that the movie would have been over in 5 minutes if all the planes were diverted to another airport makes me think McClane had a booze-induced dream.


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