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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by GoldenJCJ
(Post 11578087)
If it's truly as bad as the critics are saying than that's a damn shame. Making a winning Die Hard movie seems like one of the easiest movies to make. Find a story with terrorists coming up with a bait-and-switch robbery, throw in a wisecracking McClane, add some blood, toss in a few f-bombs among McClane's one-liners and you've succeeded. Really how hard is that?
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
I've said it before and I'll say it again - Die Hard 2 is almost as good as the original, and better than any of the Die Hard movies since.
They've declined steadily, but only in small increments. I'd rate them like this... Die Hard - 5/5 Die Hard 2 - 4.5/5 Die Hard With A Vengeance - 4.25/5 Live Freee or Die Hard - 4/5 I'm a sucker for John McClane. They've all been well made action movies with just enough suspense to be effective, but it's the character of John McClane that elevates these movies above the average action movie. If they do make a Die Hard 6 I really do think they should go back and have him trapped in a building with the bad guys. Smaller scale, more suspense, more psychological stuff and a bad guy who isn't what he seems to be. Other than that there probably wouldn't be much point to doing a 6th Die Hard movie. |
Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Just finished the marathon. An amazing experience. About 30 people who stayed for the whole thing.
As far as the new one goes, its the 'worst' of the 5. It never really feels like a Die Hard movie except for John being in the wrong place again; he constantly says hes on vacation. Jack constantly calls him John, instead of Dad, to make sure we know their relationship is strained. It feels like something was missing. You are just dropped right into the story. It feels over before it really gets started. Several scenes from the trailer were not in the movie, such as the cabby asking are you a cop, and the full strip, off the bike. But its still John McClane. Hopefully a 6th one brings it all together and closes the series |
Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by stingermck
(Post 11578374)
Several scenes from the trailer were not in the movie such as the full strip off the bike.
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Yeah, I gave away my ticket for the 10pm showing to a friend. Rental. And now they cut the full strip scene from the bike? WTF?
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by stingermck
(Post 11578374)
But its still John McClane.
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sure the movie is seriously flawed but I for one couldn't stand 'Live Free or Die Hard' - this at a mere 98 minutes and a juggernaut Dolby Atmos mix made up for all the film's flaws - not great by a long shot, but if you want to see a lot of shit blowing up/shot at, dozens of cars getting smashed it might be up your alley. The plot is waifer thin, plot holes abound, Bruce Willis shambles through his role just for the paycheck, some truly corny dialogue occurs (...and more), this film feels like it's the final nail in the coffin for this franchise.
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For such a short film that consists of mostly nothing but set pieces and loud noises, I was bored. By time the film gets to it's last set piece I was both glad that the film was near the end, but also wanted something more as the film's marketing materials have shown all but one or two of the money shots. Meh. Here's a great idea for Die Hard 6, maybe they can hire a director and writer who don't suck 20th Century Fox's cock for a living. |
Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by stingermck
(Post 11578374)
As far as the new one goes, its the 'worst' of the 5. It never really feels like a Die Hard movie except for John being in the wrong place again; he constantly says hes on vacation. Jack constantly calls him John, instead of Dad, to make sure we know their relationship is strained.
It feels like something was missing. You are just dropped right into the story. It feels over before it really gets started. Several scenes from the trailer were not in the movie, such as the cabby asking are you a cop, and the full strip, off the bike. But its still John McClane. Hopefully a 6th one brings it all together and closes the series I actually wish they went more into ridiculous territory with the action, especially after the last movie (which again, I thought was a great action movie). They seemed to scale it back a bit though. I had a good time, but yea, worst of the five. |
Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
11% now. That's too bad. I'll probably see it this weekend anyway.
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This can't even get up to Taken 2's rotten level, and that's pretty bad. I tried the "it's just a mindless action movie" approach to the Taken sequel when I saw it, but I didn't know it was going to be that mindless, as in totally devoid of any common sense.
My decision: wait until Fox releases the six disc BR set (if we get the sixth one)and watch this one eventually. My dilemma: if the sixth one is as bad as this one seems, I might be kicking my self for not getting the set they just made. Anyone happen to have insight on the sixth installments quality at this time? ;) |
Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
This review sums it up
The most unbelievable scene in the original Die Hard is the one where John McClane avoids an explosion by jumping off of the roof of Nakatomi Plaza, swinging down on a fire hose to a window below him. That's it. McClane even has to shoot the window open because it didn't break when he slammed into it. This is reasonably realistic: skyscraper windows are not supposed to shatter when objects make contact with them. On the spectrum of "crazy shit that happens to action movie characters," this is pretty far down the list. And even though it's implausible that, in real life, McClane would survive, we in the audience get the sense that McClane knows this, too. We see the anguish on his face, because he knows that the chances of this working are low. For such a low-stakes (in action-movie terms, at least) endeavor, it's extremely riveting. We can still ask ourselves, What would I do in this situation? The answer, again, is "die." But we like John McClane because he didn't die, even though he was terrified of dying. Now, in A Good Day to Die Hard, there's a scene about 45 minutes into the movie in which McClane (along with his son, played by Jai Courtney, whom I did enjoy in this role) finds himself, once again, in a high-rise building. A helicopter is firing bullets into the room that the McClanes are in, so McClane and his son run at top speed toward the windows, break through, and jump into infinity. The two then crash though scaffolding at a high rate of speed (scaffolding that it's hard to believe they were aware existed), eventually falling into a chute of some kind and then landing safely on the ground without harm. McClane didn't think twice about this decision; there was no anguish at the thought of dying. He didn't even bother looking for a fire hose to swing from. The man who jumped out of that window had no fear of dying because he knew that there was no way that he could possibly be killed. Watching this was no different than watching a Super Dave Osborne sketch: I'm sure he's going to complain, but he'll be fine. And this is only one of many instances that McClane defies death in ways that make jumping off a building with a fire hose, or running across broken glass while barefoot, look easy. (Let me repeat that for effect: the original movie made running across glass ... suspenseful!) |
Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by stingermck
(Post 11578625)
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by jeffkjoe
(Post 11578669)
Actually, there's just one more unbelievable moment in the original: John McClane falling down the chute and catching a ledge by his fingertips at high speed. But that's it.
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by DaveyJoe
(Post 11578673)
Also that a black limo driver and a white cop would get along so well in the 80s.
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum
(Post 11578661)
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
If anyone cares, I made a reviews thread.
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by B5Erik
(Post 11578365)
If they do make a Die Hard 6 I really do think they should go back and have him trapped in a building with the bad guys. Smaller scale, more suspense, more psychological stuff and a bad guy who isn't what he seems to be.
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt
(Post 11578975)
Maybe terrorists will take over his retirement community.
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
they could go with current news terrorists for number dh 6.
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Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
I really want to start a poll - Worst 5th entry in a franchise: Rocky V, Star Trek V, or A Good Day To Die Hard? :)
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