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Tom Creo 10-25-12 04:04 PM

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Man we bitch about alot of dumb shit on this forum. :lol:

Solid Snake 10-25-12 04:13 PM

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Yeah but this isn't stupid. As an analysis of the text..it doesn't make sense for it to repeatedly come up.

Terminator made more sense w/ it. Well T1 and T2.

CharlieK 10-25-12 04:23 PM

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I've been able to deal with the ridiculousness of it by imagining that right after he said it to Hans, he thought to himself, 'Hey, that's a pretty good line. If I live, I should try and use that more often.' And he did.

RocShemp 10-25-12 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by anomynous (Post 11441547)
So he just happens to run into his son in Russia?


Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 11441550)
To me it seems he is going there to meet up with him, and then runs in to him.

Yup. I get an estranged Father-Son vibe with what Lucy tells him at the beginning.

Jay G. 10-25-12 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieK (Post 11441786)
I've been able to deal with the ridiculousness of it by imagining that right after he said it to Hans, he thought to himself, 'Hey, that's a pretty good line. If I live, I should try and use that more often.' And he did.

Another thing is that in 2 and 3, he's not saying it within hearing range of the villain he's supposedly saying it to. So he's just saying it to himself, referencing his own past.

Double_Oh_7 10-25-12 04:56 PM

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Seriously, it's time to put this franchise to rest.

islandclaws 10-25-12 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattflix (Post 11441718)
"Ill be back" at least makes some sort of sense in the context of Arnold's movies. In The Running Man when he says it to Killian and he responds with "Only in a rerun..." it still works.


The "yippie-ki-yay" thing was a random snarky retort McClane made while he was sneaking through the Nakatomi hallways when Gruber said he was probably a nobody raised on cowboy movies, then Gruber fired it back at him at the final scene.

Yes it's the movie's big catchphrase but in the context of what's actually happening it points out how much this series struggles to make plausible sequels.

I'll agree it makes sense in context, although that context is wholly created just for the sake of inserting that phrase. For the record, I think it's stupid in every film he's said it in other than T1 and T2.

John McClane doesn't strike me as someone who'd latch onto that phrase for repeated use, but, you know, I'm also not producing the film.

CharlieK 10-25-12 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Double_Oh_7 (Post 11441827)
Seriously, it's time to put this franchise to rest.

Really, Double_Oh_7? I'm sure people were saying the same thing after Moonraker, Octopussy and fucking Die Another Day, but they turned that franchise around, right? Just give it another 20 years, and Die Hard movies will get good again. I guarantee it!

Hailey G 10-25-12 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11441833)
I'll agree it makes sense in context, although that context is wholly created just for the sake of inserting that phrase. For the record, I think it's stupid in every film he's said it in other than T1 and T2.

It also worked in Last Action Hero, because it was a joke.

islandclaws 10-25-12 06:06 PM

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Wasn't the whole movie?

Hailey G 10-25-12 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal (Post 11441900)
Wasn't the whole movie?

It was, but my point was I thought the line worked in that context.

WeylandYutani 10-25-12 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dex14 (Post 11441494)



Is John McClane going to be completely CGI in this one?

fumanstan 10-25-12 06:37 PM

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Needs more Mary Elizabeth Winstead.

islandclaws 10-25-12 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni (Post 11441905)
It was, but my point was I thought the line worked in that context.

I'm just fucking with you. It was fitting there. And while the movie is bad, it's SO bad that it rocks. Plus, that soundtrack was killer!

Why So Blu? 10-25-12 07:20 PM

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I'm totally digging the explosions, stunts, and model work. Lots of practical shit going in there. I even thought I saw a dude on a motorcycle nearly get his head taken off by a flying armored car.

ultimaton 10-25-12 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by CharlieK (Post 11441786)
I've been able to deal with the ridiculousness of it by imagining that right after he said it to Hans, he thought to himself, 'Hey, that's a pretty good line. If I live, I should try and use that more often.' And he did.

I'm sure he makes a point to only say it while he's foiling international terror plots.

Troy Stiffler 10-25-12 09:09 PM

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I like it.

It's about the most I can expect from a good old action movie. Hollywood seems to have abandoned those. Last great originals I remember are Con Air and Face/Off from 1997. Michael Bay makes Transformers movies that are sprinkled with action goodness. We got Fast Five. Call me old fashioned. Why doesn't anyone do this anymore?

Hazel Motes 10-25-12 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattflix (Post 11441718)
"Ill be back" at least makes some sort of sense in the context of Arnold's movies. In The Running Man when he says it to Killian and he responds with "Only in a rerun..." it still works.


The "yippie-ki-yay" thing was a random snarky retort McClane made while he was sneaking through the Nakatomi hallways when Gruber said he was probably a nobody raised on cowboy movies, then Gruber fired it back at him at the final scene.

Yes it's the movie's big catchphrase but in the context of what's actually happening it points out how much this series struggles to make plausible sequels.


Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11441771)
Yeah but this isn't stupid. As an analysis of the text..it doesn't make sense for it to repeatedly come up.

Terminator made more sense w/ it. Well T1 and T2.


yet the fact that John Mcclane has fought a one man war against a group of international terrorists 5 seperate times in his life, doesn't register on your radar?

Mattflix 10-26-12 07:46 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Chadm (Post 11442366)
yet the fact that John Mcclane has fought a one man war against a group of international terrorists 5 seperate times in his life, doesn't register on your radar?

That definitely does also register on my radar. I said before how each entry feels like a stretch to place McClane in, then I said the catchphrase thing is tacky. They're all reasons this franchise is grasping at straws to continue.

At least the action is fun. I'm just unable to take them seriously at this point.

Strevlac 10-26-12 02:33 PM

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Trailer looked pretty great....except for the photography. How awesome would it be if they went back to anamorphic and removed the teal filter? It would be nice to have nice, warm, saturated, semi-realistic color back in movies these days.

jdslater1 10-27-12 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac (Post 11443146)
Trailer looked pretty great....except for the photography. How awesome would it be if they went back to anamorphic and removed the teal filter? It would be nice to have nice, warm, saturated, semi-realistic color back in movies these days.

Stop...like... living in the past man!

Agreed though. I like those films in the 80s when you have a real sun flare into the lens. Perhaps by mistake then design but not a CG one.

wm lopez 10-27-12 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac (Post 11443146)
Trailer looked pretty great....except for the photography. How awesome would it be if they went back to anamorphic and removed the teal filter? It would be nice to have nice, warm, saturated, semi-realistic color back in movies these days.

I thought at the start of 2010 we would go back to that.
Does maybe blue ray disc have something to do with it?
Like how come some movies that are getting remastered again now have that teal look to it?
MAGNUM FORCE, THE ENFORCER just to name two.

Solid Snake 10-27-12 09:55 AM

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It's Blu-ray. Also...why the hell would 2010 tease at the idea of pulling back on digital manipulation in film?

Coral 10-27-12 11:27 AM

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I don't like the constant wrong-place/wrong-time thing going on with McLane - which was in DH1, DH2 and DH4. I'm not sure that's the case here or not. Hopefully his son is a cop who's somehow involved in stopping some plot in Russia, and John just happens to be there when shit hits the fan just because he's visiting his son. This way McLane's involvement isn't 100% coincidental.

TGM 10-27-12 11:35 AM

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I think part of the charm is McLain always being in the wrong place at the wrong time.


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