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HN 10-05-12 03:41 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11414486)
There was also a short featurette with him.

Yup. pretty sure they took a cast photo with it.

Mattflix 10-05-12 04:42 PM

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Just the fact that this is a franchise at all is awkward.

With Die Hard 2, they tried keeping it the same, and it was a major stretch of the imagination. Even McClane quipped how this could happen to the same guy twice. This was fun enough so you can accept it. But it would get even sillier to have John stumble into a terrorist situation with Holly as a hostage every Christmas.

(BTWDie Harder was never in the actual movie so I don't count it)

So to break the formula, we get Die Hard with a Vengeance. Now I freaking love this movie, but outside of the Gruber connection, it's not a Die Hard movie. In fact it was a solo action script that they basically changed the hero's name to McClane and the villain to Gruber and poof you've got a Die Hard entry. Fortunately this got John McTeirnan back in the director's chair and we still got a damned good movie.

Live Free or Die Hard - Now there's just nothing to connect it to the franchise. It's just an action movie. I thought it was a fun action movie, but nothing special.


It doesn't help that Bruce Willis doesn't have much of an acting range. He's basically got John McClane who he usually plays in fun action flicks. Then he's got "sad guy" in stuff like The Sixth Sense or Twelve Monkeys. At this point, what's seperating a Die Hard movie from most of the action garbage that Willis regularly phones in?

Pointyskull 10-05-12 04:45 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11414498)
The first Die Hard was quite logical, intelligently plotted, and reasonably believable for a big-budget action film (for 1988). It didn't just set out to provide big loud 'splosions for mental fucking midgets.

-rolleyes-

Tarantino 10-05-12 04:54 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11414498)
"It's a popcorn movie; turn off your brain and enjoy..."

The first Die Hard was quite logical, intelligently plotted, and reasonably believable for a big-budget action film (for 1988). It didn't just set out to provide big loud 'splosions for mental fucking midgets.

I just can't wait until it releases so that you can come on here and call it 'swill'.

Solid Snake 10-05-12 04:59 PM

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Yeah, the first one while having it's stretches in how much can happen to one guy in a day kind of thing...it really paints McClane as an average guy who was a cop. He bitches about glass in his foot, bleeds and bitches, does some stupid stuff at times, gets angry like a real person, annoyances, fear, etc. DH3 kind of changed it all. I don't remember DH2 so I can't say wtf it did to his character. LFDH was an action movie w/ Bruce Willis. It had good action...otherwise..very meh.

I'll see this and hope it's good but i do hope it reels down the character to be a guy that bruises and is hurt. If it doesn't...well...I do hope it's a good movie either way.

Hokeyboy 10-05-12 07:09 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11414658)
I just can't wait until it releases so that you can come on here and call it 'swill'.

Typical phlebotomist apologist...

Hokeyboy 10-05-12 07:10 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 11414640)
-rolleyes-

Oh crap. He whipped out the rolleyes. Everyone drop your weapons and back away slowly... :lol:

jdslater1 10-06-12 03:25 AM

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Hope they bring back the swearing.
I watched Speed the other day and that had more swearing then Live Free.

Charlie Goose 10-06-12 08:35 AM

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Die Hard in Russia?

Этот фильм делает мой пенис трудно.

Jules Winfield 10-06-12 08:38 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 11414640)
-rolleyes-

I would consider the original Die Hard an example of the world's greatest cinema. No joke. The sequels have their moments but the fourth had none. Also, expected more from a DVDTalk reviewer than just rolleyes.

Pointyskull 10-06-12 08:43 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11415388)
I would consider the original Die Hard an example of the world's greatest cinema. No joke. The sequels have their moments but the fourth had none. Also, expected more from a DVDTalk reviewer than just rolleyes.

I made my initial observation in post 127. The eyeroll was in response to the "mental midget" comment.

I am a huge fan of the first Die Hard, and while the followups stretched the premise I still loved them. Fun, entertaining action films. Absurd? Sure. Far-fetched? Yes. Believable? No.

And as much as I hold Die Hard in high regard to put it on the pedestal of "world's greatest cinema" is a bit of a leap, imo.
"World's greatest action movie"? Perhaps.

Plus I came into this thread to remark that I'm looking forward to the new one. I'm not the hater here...

Hokeyboy 10-06-12 08:48 AM

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For what it's worth I wasn't calling 12thmonkey (or anyone else here) a mental fucking midget; rather I was just stressing that we should have reasonable standards that don't get a pass because "it's a popcorn movie/it's just entertainment".

Jules Winfield 10-06-12 08:56 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by 12thmonkey (Post 11415392)
I made my initial observation in post 127. The eyeroll was in response to the "mental midget" comment.

I am a huge fan of the first Die Hard, and while the followups stretched the premise I still loved them. Fun, entertaining action films. Absurd? Sure. Far-fetched? Yes. Believable? No.

And as much as I hold Die Hard in high regard to put it on the pedestal of "world's greatest cinema" is a bit of a leap, imo.
"World's greatest action movie"? Perhaps.

Plus I came into this thread to remark that I'm looking forward to the new one. I'm not the hater here...

I say potato, you say potato. Hmm, that phrase doesn't really work typed out.:p For me, world's greatest action movie definitely qualifies it for world's greatest cinema. Also, I think he was responding to the argument that action movies should be mindless, dumb fun. We should expect more from a movie than just explosion, explosion, explosion because then we might as well just look at fucking fireworks. Although, maybe you guys have some history. I don't know.

Pointyskull 10-06-12 08:58 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11415396)
For what it's worth I wasn't calling 12thmonkey (or anyone else here) a mental fucking midget

:banana: :grouphug:


Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11415396)
rather I was just stressing that we should have reasonable standards that don't get a pass because "it's a popcorn movie/it's just entertainment".

Agreed, to a point. In my view the action genre has well-made "popcorn" and insult-my-intelligence "popcorn". Titles are irrelevant because everyone has different opinions. I consider the Die Hard series well-made, and I didn't even dislike the 4th one as much as most did.

The plague of Die Hard clones/knockoffs that came after - many of those were crap, simply following some checklist of action movie staple sequences with no heart.

This DH franchise will never be able to exceed the pure thrill of the first one, no matter how polished or big-budget. But I still will go opening weekend when GDTDH opens....

Hailey G 10-06-12 09:11 AM

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The title of the next movie should be "Eat Shit and Die Hard"

RagingBull80 10-06-12 02:03 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11413886)
Funny how John McClane went from being a New York cop WAY out of his element to super-slick-badass-ultra-commando. This series has so lost track of itself, it's laughable.

Agreed.



Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11414393)
He should still be a bitter recent divorcee who hates his job and is having another bad day.

Sounds great to me. :thumbsup:



Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni (Post 11415414)
The title of the next movie should be "Eat Shit and Die Hard"

:lol:

dsa_shea 10-06-12 05:16 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Shannon Nutt (Post 11414432)
It happens to Jack Bauer every freakin' day. :)

However, he is always able to resolve his issues within 24 hours.

dsa_shea 10-06-12 05:24 PM

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http://i425.photobucket.com/albums/p...-trailer-0.jpg

Looks good!

RagingBull80 10-06-12 07:20 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 
For anyone interested her name is Julia Snigir and a Google search yields good results.

RocShemp 10-06-12 11:32 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by RagingBull80 (Post 11415940)
For anyone interested her name is Julia Snigir and a Google search yields good results.

"Good" is quite the understatement.

DaveyJoe 10-07-12 11:17 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 
A Good Search to Get Hard

Tarantino 10-07-12 11:29 AM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by Hokeyboy (Post 11414833)
Typical phlebotomist apologist...

I'll take that as a compliment!

dex14 10-07-12 03:37 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11416436)
A Good Search to Get Hard

rotfl

dsa_shea 10-07-12 03:38 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11416436)
A Good Search to Get Hard

lol! Funny stuff right there.

RocShemp 10-07-12 04:12 PM

Re: A Good Day To Die Hard
 

Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 11416436)
A Good Search to Get Hard

One that confirms that Foreign Maxim is better than Domestic Maxim.


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