Originally Posted by Draven

Wait...So Optimus starts out the first movie as a long nose truck (with flames, because fucking Michael Bay), now in this movie he starts as a flat-nosed truck (which is what he should have been from day 1) and then turns back into a long nose truck?

Can't wait to hear the explanation in the movie on that one.

Originally Posted by RocShemp

That's Cyclonus with the gun-face. If you look carefully during that scene, when Optimus turns to face Cyclonus and is subsequently shot, there is a Decepticon on the ground. That is Galvatron. You also see Galvatron when Stanley Tucci is commenting on the metal from which the Transformers are made. He's lying on a slab.

Originally Posted by fumanstan

After 3 movies I still have trouble telling who's who as far as the actual Transformers go outside of Optimus and Bumblebee.

Originally Posted by fumanstan

After 3 movies I still have trouble telling who's who as far as the actual Transformers go outside of Optimus and Bumblebee.

Originally Posted by resinrats

Gundams would probably look more like their anime look since they don't have to transform. Maybe look like Pacific Rim robots.

Originally Posted by Ash Ketchum

Damn, I don't even remember what the Pacific Rim robots looked like. One thing I liked about the Transformers' design in the Bay movies was that they used lots of primary colors, just like the Gundams.

Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

I always wondered why the didn't streamline the designs in the Bay films at least somewhat. Not so much in a fanboy "make them look exactly like G1" way, but the designs are so complex with so many pieces for ILM to animate that I've always wondered why they don't simplify it slightly to make them less unwieldy. Bay's rattling, ducking, spinning camera and rapid-fire editing combined with the cluttered visual design sense has made many scenes so confusing that I often struggled with who was doing what to whom.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake

It pisses me off how we somehow can't this this kind of level in drama in the films.

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Like we have inklings of it but it's just fluff essentially in the films. Also...how...we still can't have the fucking films focus more on the robots. We don't care about Sam and the others. We care about the Transformers. All humans are worthless to the plot aside from the military, which was actually smart to have NEST exist..cuz that'd make sense if it could be allowed.

Originally Posted by Mr. Cinema

I did a search for Lockdown and read he has the ability to transform his face into a gun. I think he's the one walking in front of the giant ship.

Originally Posted by Greg MacGuffin

I remember seeing this pic a few years ago and thinking how much fun it would have been to see something like this in the movie.
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Originally Posted by hanshotfirst1138

I'd be far more tolerant of these movies if they weren't so ungodly ass-numbingly long. There is no reason that a movie about fighting robots needs to be longer than Bridge On the River Kwai.

Originally Posted by Artman

HR review... surprise, more of the same! A lot more...as in 165min! Hey guys - you can save money, get better reviews and have more showtimes if you bring the runtimes closer to 2hrs. http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/mov.../review/713864

Originally Posted by My Other Self

I finally finished Revenge of the Fallen a few weeks ago and it is an ungodly mess. I don't regret having to leave in the theater 1/3 of the way in back in 2009. The first one has no re-watchability, but Dark of the Moon has verged in to the so bad it's good territory for me. How long was Bad Boys II? My ass was numb by the time that was over.