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nando820 06-25-12 03:23 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11284797)

Edit: Wow, I must've really upset the Battleship fandom, though. Who knew it had such ardent fans? :lol:

Mr Dragon,

I believe this has to do more with your self-righteous attitude towards others opinions than the subject matter at hand. I believe some people call it being a douche

Tarantino 06-25-12 03:32 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11284797)
In short, you've gotta do better if you're gonna try to bait the master with his own quotes

"The master" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And for the record, I haven't seen Battleship, Lincoln, or Cowboys & Aliens. I just reposted your quote because I thought it was pretty stupid.

Decker 06-25-12 03:54 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
If you bait the master, I suppose that makes you a master-baiter.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 04:06 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11284899)
"The master" :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

And for the record, I haven't seen Battleship, Lincoln, or Cowboys & Aliens. I just reposted your quote because I thought it was pretty stupid.

So it was appropriate for Battleship, then.


Originally Posted by Decker (Post 11284934)
If you bait the master, I suppose that makes you a master-baiter.

That's some Raimi-esque humor you got there.

Tarantino 06-25-12 06:49 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11284953)
So it was appropriate for Battleship, then.

I wouldn't know...have YOU seen it?

Dr. DVD 06-25-12 07:00 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Wow, if that end spoiler is true

Spoiler:
They completely crap all over Captain Stacy's death from the comics. He goes from asking Peter to take care of his daughter to asking him to stay away from her. Sounds to me like he's still a dickhead.


The end result of that isn't tear inducing, it's dumb.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 07:13 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11285129)
I wouldn't know...have YOU seen it?

I don't watch shit.

thematahara 06-25-12 07:25 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Can someone remind me why it matters if someone doesn't like a particular movie?

Draven 06-25-12 07:27 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11285153)
I don't watch shit.

How do you know it's shit? The trailers?

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 08:20 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11285163)
How do you know it's shit?

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/battleship/

TGM 06-25-12 08:25 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
more than 1/2 of the audience liked it. more than they likely could say for Tree of Life.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 08:29 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by TallGuyMe (Post 11285226)
more than 1/2 of the audience liked it. more than they likely could say for Tree of Life.

You'd be wrong, according to Rotten Tomatoes.

http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/the_tree_of_life_2011/

Of course, I'm sure that has to do with the fact that a better class of audience went to see that movie, overall.

Dr. DVD 06-25-12 08:56 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
^ While I do agree with your statement, it invites someone to make a comment about film snobbery.

Tarantino 06-25-12 09:02 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11285220)

Oh, you're one of those guys that let others decide what is good and what isn't.

Big Boy Laroux 06-25-12 09:14 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11284797)
But in Hollywood, they've apparently run out of ideas to such a degree that we're now regularly subject to shitty boardgames, children's toys and hell, fucking words that they felt like shoving together (Cowboys and Aliens? Lincoln the fucking Vampire Slayer).

FYI - "Cowboys & Aliens" is a graphic novel, and "Abraham Lincoln - Vampire Hunter" is a book.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 09:26 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux (Post 11285289)
FYI - "Cowboys & Aliens" is a graphic novel, and "Abraham Lincoln - Vampire Hunter" is a book.

No need to FYI, since these things were already widely known and reported. A terrible graphic novel and a terrible book (penned by the genius behind the classics Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and RJ Berger) which only proves my original point that things based on what basically amounts to two words shoved together and not actual stories should not be getting greenlit as major studio pictures.


Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11285271)
Oh, you're one of those guys that let others decide what is good and what isn't.

Nope. I've found critics I agree with and follow their reviews. Also, I'm not a self-entitled asshole who thinks all critics are studio plants. Most critics tend to know what they're talking about, and I'll take a professional critic's opinion over some random dude on an internet forum any day.

But hey dude, if you think Battleshit is the greatest movie ever made, or some misunderstood gem, more power to you. I really could not care less. I've tried. It's impossible.

Big Boy Laroux 06-25-12 10:13 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11285305)
No need to FYI, since these things were already widely known and reported. A terrible graphic novel and a terrible book (penned by the genius behind the classics Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and RJ Berger) which only proves my original point that things based on what basically amounts to two words shoved together and not actual stories should not be getting greenlit as major studio pictures.

Just responding to your claim that those movies' origins were "fucking words that they felt like shoving together". The fact is that "Hollywood" didn't shove any words together - the movies are based on source material. I haven't read or seen either, so can't comment on the quality. But that's neither here nor there with regard to the statement you made.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 10:20 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Big Boy Laroux (Post 11285370)
Just responding to your claim that those movies' origins were "fucking words that they felt like shoving together". The fact is that "Hollywood" didn't shove any words together - the movies are based on source material. I haven't read or seen either, so can't comment on the quality. But that's neither here nor there with regard to the statement you made.

They pretty much did, since both writers were well established in Hollywood prior to writing the respective works. Hell, Rosenberg had a well-known working relationship with Sony, Universal and Dreamworks due to the establishment of Platinum Studios in 1997.

These were projects specifically written to provide excuses for making shitty movies.

Nick Martin 06-25-12 10:33 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Since this thread has gone down the shitter because the majority of you enjoy arguing with a fucking internet troll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

Draven 06-25-12 10:39 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11285305)
No need to FYI, since these things were already widely known and reported. A terrible graphic novel and a terrible book (penned by the genius behind the classics Pride and Prejudice and Zombies and RJ Berger) which only proves my original point that things based on what basically amounts to two words shoved together and not actual stories should not be getting greenlit as major studio pictures.

Have you read Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Slayer? I have, and it was great. And I'm not alone in thinking that, as it's gotten a fair amount of critical praise. Maybe you're wrong? Especially since you are pointing out positive ASM reviews.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 10:43 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Draven (Post 11285396)
Especially since you are pointing out positive ASM reviews.

:lol: Hard to avoid that since all but 1 released review so far (by someone whose major complaint is factually inaccurate) are positive.


Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11285391)
Since this thread has gone down the shitter because the majority of you enjoy arguing with a fucking internet troll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ

You're right. It was on such a roll before with you coming in to post "It's gonna suck!" every fifth post.

Tarantino 06-25-12 10:49 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11285401)
:lol: Hard to avoid that since all but 1 released review so far (by someone whose major complaint is factually inaccurate) are positive.

You're right. It was on such a roll before with you coming in to post "It's gonna suck!" every fifth post.

I didn't think it would happen from the movie forum, as all of my ignore list additions are from the Sports forum, but I don't think I'll miss any of your amazing insights.

Bye, Dragon Tattoo.

(Ironic, considering your user name is derived from the same type of source material as Vampire Hunter)

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 10:50 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11285403)
I didn't think it would happen from the movie forum, as all of my ignore list additions are from the Sports forum, but I don't think I'll miss any of your amazing insights.

Bye, Dragon Tattoo.

Thank God. Maybe you'll actually either leave or get back on topic now instead of singing Battleship's praises in a fucking Spider-man thread.

Tarantino 06-25-12 10:53 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Dragon Tattoo (Post 11285407)
Thank God. Maybe you'll actually either leave or get back on topic now instead of singing Battleship's praises in a fucking Spider-man thread.

:lol: go ahead and find one post, just one post where I praised Battleship.

Just one.

I'll unblock you while you complete that task.

Dragon Tattoo 06-25-12 10:59 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Tarantino (Post 11285403)
(Ironic, considering your user name is derived from the same type of source material as Vampire Hunter)

I had no idea that Abraham Lincoln, Vampire Hunter began its life as series of Sweedish novels. Huh, the more you know. Something must've gotten lost in translation.

Anyway, don't worry, Tarantino. I've blocked you instead. Don't go back on your word so readily in the future.

I am sick of discussing Battleshit, so let's get you Spidey-bashers back on something resembling the original topic, at least.


As early reviews of "The Amazing Spider-Man" are being filed, more applause than criticism appears to be slung in its direction.

In this reboot, you've got young, appealing actors — Andrew Garfield as Peter Parker and Emma Stone as Gwen Stacy — helping you forget the largely-terrible Tobey Maguire-starring trilogy that went away after 2007, and start fresh.

Most of the critics remark that the film satisfies and charms while melding emotion with action throughout. In his sophomore effort, director Marc Webb ("500 Days of Summer") amplies the romcom angle, presents a more personalized origin story and dodges "Spider-Man" director Sam Raimi's trademark campiness.

According to the Hollywood Reporter, the film is gloomier than Raimi's take, but also is directed with emotional depth and plenty of comedic touches. It "inserts a touching portrait of adolescent angst into an otherwise predictable dose of CGI-fueled action," Jordan Mintzer writes.

Variety calls it "a mostly slick, entertaining and emotionally involving recombination of fresh and familiar elements."

Not all critics can suppress their memories of the trilogy when evaluating this project. Chris Tookey of the Daily Mail says it doesn't really bring anything new to the table.

"There isn't a lot that hasn't been seen before, and although the special effects are impressive, they're no improvement on 'Spider-Man 2,' which remains by far the best of the franchise," Tookey says. The 3-D is effective in the flying sequences, but annoying during the fights, he says.

You can see for yourself when it hits theaters July 3. The film also stars Rhys Ifans, Martin Sheen, Sally Field, Denis Leary and Campbell Scott.

http://www.nj.com/entertainment/inde...n_the_rev.html


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