Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11274765)

OMD essentially started with Marvel's Civil War in which the Superhuman Registration Act was passed which required all superhumans to register their identity and powers with the federal government. Spider-Man revealed that he is Peter Parker on live television.

Then Kingpin sent a sniper assassin to kill Peter at his home. Of course his spider-sense warned him to dodge the bullet, but Aunt May was in the path and she got shot instead. All of the greatest geniuses, such as Tony Stark and Reed Richards, could do nothing to save her.

So that leads into One More Day.

What did Spidey do? He made a deal with freaking Mephisto. Mephisto is essentially the devil in the Marvel universe, so he essentially made a deal with the devil to save Aunt May's life. The deal was that he would trade his marriage, and Mephisto would make it so that the marriage never happened at all, and in exchange Mephisto would restore Aunt May and also wipe out the knowledge of Spidey's secret identity from everyone so that essentially he never revealed his identity on live tv.

There was just so much wrong with OMD. First, Spidey would never never never make a deal with the devil no matter what. That is just so completely against his character. "With great power comes great responsibility..." Uncle Ben would be rolling in his grave. Instead of actually taking responsibility for his actions of revealing his identity to the world, he decides to take the easy way out. It also effectively erases 20 years of Spidey history because Mephisto didn't just undo the marriage, he made it so that it never happened in the first place. So Peter and MJ were never married at all period.

Later, Joe Quesada wrote "One Moment in Time" which revealed what actually happened on the day they were supposed to have been married. A fat guy fell on top of Spidey and knocked him out, causing him to miss his own wedding. I'm not even joking about that. Spidey, a guy who can withstand punches from the likes of Green Goblin and Doc Ock, is knocked unconscious when a regular ol' fat guy falls on him.

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11274820)

A lot of those have already been answered. Lizard doesn't have a snout because the design is based on the original Steve Ditko Lizard. Web-slinging at night I speculate is trying to be more "realistic" in the regard that criminals are more active at night, and also Peter is in school during the day anyway. Spider-Man's origin has always contained a deep dark secret. His parents were originally CIA spies in the comics. The change to scientist in the movie is actually an improvement in my opinion. It better explains why Peter is naturally gifted in science... like father like son.

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11274820)

A lot of those have already been answered. Lizard doesn't have a snout because the design is based on the original Steve Ditko Lizard.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11274839)

Also I don't mind the change to his face. Like it was said..it's the Ditko design. I do mind that we have a naked Lizard. Cuz you know..he's naked..and his penis is missing. I'm sorry...I don't mind that I go all superhuman Lizard. But the moment this change takes way body parts. yeah. I might fucking mind a bit.

Originally Posted by Jules Winfield (Post 11274852)

Movies should have the luxury of cutting out the unnecessary crap like Peter's parents' background and just making an exciting movie.

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11274863)

To be fair, we don't really know how much screen time is actually devoted to all this backstory. It could just be a very brief part of the movie.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11274883)

No matter what though....i dislike the general design for Connors.

This is The Lizard:
<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/55688019@N00/532417414/" title="The Lizard by _Villains, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1029/532417414_4a6142ab33.jpg" width="419" height="500" alt="The Lizard"></a>

The new design is such a departure from the classic design that it's hard to enjoy it. Not to mention the way the character is presented in the trailers and such. Seems like Doc Connors goes bad on his own and that it's him. And him alone being the reason to be bad. i LOVE that Connors had the greatest of ambitions and that it turned on him. And that this creature that came forth was his own. Just a savage creature w/ at times the mental reasoning of a man via Connors. A savage creature no matter what though.

i know that a lot of you guys are shitting all over this cuz it's not what you want. Whatever that is. i don't mind that Spidey works at night. That makes sense. I don't mind that he's having fun swinging around (that's always been Spidey). I don't mind that we have Gwen. Don't mind that he has web shooters. That's tons better than organic. It's actually neat that his parents were scientists and that that may have had an influence in him being a nerd and then creating the shooters.

I do mind that Connors is a literal bad guy now from what it seems. i do mind that for some reason Parker's parents matter to the origin. They don't matter. Even today...they don't matter much. It adds too much needless material.


No matter what though. i can't be that damn stupid to shit on something I haven't fully seen and/or won't allow some personal bias/taste to influence what I think it may be. I'm middle ground. I will watch the film hoping to be at least entertained and hoping it's good.

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11274883)

The new design is such a departure from the classic design that it's hard to enjoy it.

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11274910)

That's not the classic design... Classic Lizard was Ditko's Lizard. .

Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11275399)

As I've not read the comics, I have to ask:

When Connors turns into Lizard and grows an arm, does he ever change back into a person and if so, what happens to the arm, does it stay?

Originally Posted by resinrats (Post 11275401)

So Lizard just calls out superheroes 1000 miles away?

I'm guessing that is a coin Spidey is lowering to pay for the paper. Where does he keep loose change? Also pretty gross for the newspaper guy. Coin is covered with webbing and webbing is getting over all the other papers, ruining them all. Spiderman is a jerk. Spidey should have just swiped the paper and put it back when finished.

Originally Posted by resinrats (Post 11275401)

So Lizard just calls out superheroes 1000 miles away?

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11275655)

No. The Daily Bugle challenged Spidey to defeat a villain 1000 miles away. Not that it's much better.

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11275390)

First appearance of the Lizard (spoilered for size):

Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11275655)

No. The Daily Bugle challenged Spidey to defeat a villain 1000 miles away. Not that it's much better.

Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11275793)

Looks like all lizard wanted was for people to stay off his turf. All he did was order them to leave and some a-hole takes a shot at him. Seems like his anger was/is justified and it would have been best for Spidey to leave him alone.

Originally Posted by Obi-Wan Jabroni (Post 11275795)

As great as the concepts are, most of Stan's early stuff reads incredibly hokey today. This is just one example of many.