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kgrogers1979 07-19-11 09:30 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Superboy (Post 10860276)
I'd like to see a movie about a grown-up Peter Parker who is married to MJ.

Marriage? What marriage? They never got married...

Supermallet 07-19-11 09:32 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Huh? They totally got married in the comics.

Superboy 07-19-11 09:34 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10860315)
Huh? They totally got married in the comics.


http://ktliterary.com/wp/wp-content/...the-rescue.jpg

He was being sarcastic. As if his memory was wiped by Mephisto.

kgrogers1979 07-19-11 09:36 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Superman and Lois Lane were never married either.

Superboy 07-19-11 09:39 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 10860318)
Superman and Lois Lane were never married either.

Also, Jean Grey is still alive and well, at the bottom of NY harbor.

CKMorpheus 07-19-11 09:42 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
I haven't read the rest of this thread but I saw the bootleg trailer and I gotta say is...

Was ANYONE asking for a reboot to a film that's not even ten years old? Who thought this was a good idea?

Nick Martin 07-19-11 09:44 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Superboy (Post 10860291)
Yeah, but he's Spider-man, not the goddamn Batman.

Point being?

Notice I said considering how times have changed, meaning that Spider-Man is as well-known as any popular comic character now.

Seriously, I'd like to know what you mean by that. Look at the Batman of 1989 - most of the average, non comic reading public - myself included in that - knew nothing about this darker take, just cartoons and that 60s Adam West show. Audiences didn't need the origin to get it. Times have changed and we've had not only a bunch of Spider-Man cartoons over the years but also three hugely successful movies. It's safe to say that average Joe out there is familiar enough with Spider-Man to NOT have to sit through the origin to get this guy and his adventures.

I don't read comics at all, and even I knew who and what Spider-Man was about when the first one came out and saw the 90s cartoon. Sometimes these things are just basically common knowledge.

kgrogers1979 07-19-11 09:51 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/448...damnbatman.jpg

Thrush 07-19-11 11:42 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by CKMorpheus (Post 10860324)
Was ANYONE asking for a reboot to a film that's not even ten years old? Who thought this was a good idea?

Its completely unnecessary but studio execs love origin stories.

I'm not a huge fan of the "Incredible Hulk" movie, but I think they handled the reboot of a recent superhero film perfectly where it concerns character origins. They briefly recapped the origins during the opening credits with the new cast and then dropped us into the main story.

Someone else mentioned Twilight. It certainly looks like they want to re-invision Spiderman as a cross between Edward from Twilight and Bruce Wayne. Which is the complete opposite of Peter Parker.

devilshalo 07-19-11 11:51 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by CKMorpheus (Post 10860324)
I haven't read the rest of this thread but I saw the bootleg trailer and I gotta say is...

Was ANYONE asking for a reboot to a film that's not even ten years old? Who thought this was a good idea?

Do you really think Sony would want to spend $300M on the next installment or lose the rights to Disney?

Supermallet 07-19-11 11:59 PM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Why is everyone comparing Andrew Garfield to Edward from Twilight? Andrew Garfield can act. And is not fictional.

Mike86 07-20-11 12:13 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
That trailer did absolutely nothing to get me excited for this movie. I personally just don't care for Andrew Garfield. It's not so much his look I just don't care for him as an actor. He bothers me for some reason.

PopcornTreeCt 07-20-11 12:15 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10860445)
Why is everyone comparing Andrew Garfield to Edward from Twilight? Andrew Garfield can act. And is not fictional.

The hair, dude. I think the similarities are pretty clear.

I like Garfield a lot. I think he was great in both The Social Network and Never Let Me Go.

Boba Fett 07-20-11 12:20 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Mike86 (Post 10860450)
That trailer did absolutely nothing to get me excited for this movie. I personally just don't care for Andrew Garfield. It's not so much his look I just don't care for him as an actor. He bothers me for some reason.

He always sounds like he's one step away from crying; one of the most subtly whiny sounding actors I've seen.

Superboy 07-20-11 12:41 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 10860328)
Point being?

Notice I said considering how times have changed, meaning that Spider-Man is as well-known as any popular comic character now.

Seriously, I'd like to know what you mean by that. Look at the Batman of 1989 - most of the average, non comic reading public - myself included in that - knew nothing about this darker take, just cartoons and that 60s Adam West show. Audiences didn't need the origin to get it. Times have changed and we've had not only a bunch of Spider-Man cartoons over the years but also three hugely successful movies. It's safe to say that average Joe out there is familiar enough with Spider-Man to NOT have to sit through the origin to get this guy and his adventures.

I don't read comics at all, and even I knew who and what Spider-Man was about when the first one came out and saw the 90s cartoon. Sometimes these things are just basically common knowledge.

This made my week.

taa455 07-20-11 08:26 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by AnonomusBob15 (Post 10859945)
Even if he was forced to put Venom in the film, he still directed the film. Nobody at the studio coaxed him into getting the worst performances out of his actors. Having two villians has been done successfully. I just really hate Spider-Man 3. It's easily one of the most uninspiring big-bugeted pictures i've ever seen. I can't say a single positive thing about it.


You can't blame the studio for the complete piece of garbage that movie turned out to be.

I'm always surprised at the level of hate toward Spidey 3. I have never thought it was THAT bad. It's not 5 star stuff by any stretch, but I enjoy watching it.

foofighters7 07-20-11 08:41 AM

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have to agree with several points.

Spiderman 3 was just laughably terrible and the fact they rebooted this quickly is just retarded.

Spiderman 3 ruined the franchise for awhile. They introduced the Venom story way too soon (that storyline could have been a great 'dark Spiderman movie'), and the movie was SO hokey and childish as well.

If they rebooted and went a completely different way with Spiderman then it may have been interesting but I'm sure their cash grab will pay off nonetheless.

Hokeyboy 07-20-11 08:43 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Spider-Man 3 is a really bad movie, but it's no "Batman & Robin", "Catwoman", or "Elektra". It's just dopey, overlong, and pretty much entirely misguided from Frame 1 (except for the Sandman reassembly scene and any moment with Bryce Howard).

I get the feeling this movie will probably end up being a good Spider-Man movie, but an entirely unnecessary one. The entire tone of the trailer was grim and foreboding, almost a sense of absolute desolation. Despite all the angst and pathos, there's an prevailing feeling of buoyancy to the Spider-Man character that absolutely needs to be there. The "Mirror's Edge" sequence in particular was god-awful, included perhaps to take advantage of the studio-mandated 3D presentation. But it wasn't fun. It was a fucking videogame.

I have issues with Raimi's Spidey flicks (with the exception of 2, which I absolutely love) but what he got right was the balance of humor and danger. This just looks so... dark. "MAKE IT LIKE THE DARK KNIGHT" Sony Studio Exec #3 screamed at no one in particular....

RocShemp 07-20-11 08:44 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
The Raimi films were too goofy. This one looks like it's trying too hard to be dark. This is a $1.50 rental at best.

I did sort of appreciate the Mirror's Edge inspired sequence at the end but that made me want to play that game rather than watch this movie.

madcougar 07-20-11 09:13 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by taa455 (Post 10860654)
I'm always surprised at the level of hate toward Spidey 3. I have never thought it was THAT bad. It's not 5 star stuff by any stretch, but I enjoy watching it.

Spiderman 3 = santorum. It hurts my brain that this mindless dreck followed two of the best superhero movies of all time. It's as bad as Batman & Robin.

Michael Corvin 07-20-11 09:16 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
I read all the replies here before watching the trailer thinking, it can't be that bad...can it?

:lol: Looked like a Dark Knight spin-off.

Say what you will about the Spider-man trilogy, but I loved the look of them, bright and colorful like a comic. It worked. Same with Superman. I love Nolan's Batman universe, but the dark works because of the character. Batman was always dark and brooding. Making Superman dark didn't work in Returns and so far it looks like it won't work in Amazing Spider-man either. They need to build the world around the character, not force the character into a world they don't belong.

Also count me in the minority that liked SM3. I'm not a die-hard comic nut though so I don't have the same expectations as most of you. I'm just looking to be entertained. I think the first movie is the worst of the bunch.

Dragon Tattoo 07-20-11 09:20 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10860701)
Also count me in the minority that liked SM3.

Jesus Fucking Christ.

Hokeyboy 07-20-11 10:35 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10860701)
Also count me in the minority that liked SM3. I'm not a die-hard comic nut though so I don't have the same expectations as most of you. I'm just looking to be entertained. I think the first movie is the worst of the bunch.

I never read Spider-Man comics, I still don't, so I my only expectations were based on the previous two (and quite superior) movies. Spider-Man 3 is still really bad, IMO, because it fails to live up to those two flicks, and it fails as a movie on its own merits. You don't need comic-book fanboy expectations to realize that.

RichC2 07-20-11 10:45 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
Spider-man 3's biggest problem is it squandered all the growth of the characters from Spider-man 2 and it was almost like they were all back in high school again, with a petty, incredibly cheesy love triangle.

Solid Snake 07-20-11 10:54 AM

Re: Spider-Man (2012, Marc Webb)
 
And MJ in danger again...seriously...I don't think she was worth all that trouble from the interaction I saw from PP and MJ.


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