2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
Don't get too carried away. It may have been your favorite, and it's definitely terrific, but it doesn't match 'Up'.
'Up' had arguably the best animated sequence in the history of animation in it, and balances so many balls in the air with such skill and grace... it's an amazing film.
'Up' had arguably the best animated sequence in the history of animation in it, and balances so many balls in the air with such skill and grace... it's an amazing film.
Mabuse, what was the best animated sequence in UP?
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
It's referred to as 'The Married Life Montage' by most.
His marriage and life with Ellie.
I've can't think of anything that equals that in the history of animated films, and very few sequences from any film in general. I'm not alone in that opinion by a damn sight.
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His marriage and life with Ellie.
I've can't think of anything that equals that in the history of animated films, and very few sequences from any film in general. I'm not alone in that opinion by a damn sight.
Here I'll embed it:
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I think what's interesting is that this year there are five movies that definitely wouldn't have been nominated last year. In my opinion, here they are: http://moviesfromeveryangle.wordpress.com/
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
The opening of the field to 10 movies AND the use of a preferential system could mean "safe" movies (movies that stack up a bunch of 2nd and 3rd place type votes but are not the best picture in anyone's view) could be more prone to winning. I think it will eventually lead to a migration to the bigger box office movies tending to do better.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
If anything, I wish they would open up the best Foreign Language film to 10 nominees and along with that change the rules so that more than 1 film from a country can be nominated. So may great foreign films come out each year, 5 nominees simply is not enough.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
In 2009 they should've had a Best Foreign Language Film category (5 nominations) and a Best Foreign language Film from France Category (5 nominations), and there would not be one dud among them. Any country that can ignore 'Summer Hours' as their submission deserves it.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I know the critics don't nominate the films. This thread is also about not only critic's circle awards, but how they compare to who's nominated and wins. I was merely pointing out that a Oscar Best Picture nomination wasn't even singled out by one critic.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I think Up tried to balance too many balls in the air and seriously failed at it. Carl's story was interesting enough without having to include talking animals, a totally unnecessary villain, and an action set piece for the climax. The first half starts brilliantly then the second half floods us with kiddie movie cliches. It's just not as emotionally involving when dogs start flying airplanes.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I think Up tried to balance too many balls in the air and seriously failed at it. Carl's story was interesting enough without having to include talking animals, a totally unnecessary villain, and an action set piece for the climax. The first half starts brilliantly then the second half floods us with kiddie movie cliches. It's just not as emotionally involving when dogs start flying airplanes.
On the other hand, Ratatouille was 110 minutes of masterpiece.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I think I really agree with this. Really loved the first 15-20 minutes, and wish they'd kept that tone more throughout the rest of the film. Had the same feelings about Wall-E, though that was more towards the 45 minute mark.
On the other hand, Ratatouille was 110 minutes of masterpiece.
On the other hand, Ratatouille was 110 minutes of masterpiece.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
Yeah, it's a shame the following 80 minutes didn't approach its genius.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
What site did you manage to order THE SECRET OF KELLS from?
This is why I think THE SECRET OF KELLS is a much better film. UP is a well-done PIXAR film but it's too cutesy, sappy, and has the same type of animation as every other CG computer animated film. It's nothing original. THE SECRET OF KELLS is totally original - with its animation, storytelling, and the music, and it's not dumbed down.
Mabuse, what was the best animated sequence in UP?
This is why I think THE SECRET OF KELLS is a much better film. UP is a well-done PIXAR film but it's too cutesy, sappy, and has the same type of animation as every other CG computer animated film. It's nothing original. THE SECRET OF KELLS is totally original - with its animation, storytelling, and the music, and it's not dumbed down.
Mabuse, what was the best animated sequence in UP?
in regards to Pixar, that's why I simply couldn't stand CARS - it was waaaay to geared (pardon the pun) to mass kid's appeal - the story was predictable, hardly much of a plot and seemed all rather vapid ... oh and the voice casting was grating beyond belief.
is it me, but doesn't it seem a bit unfair that UP is nominated for both 'Best Film' and 'Best Animated Film' - what a wasted opportunity for another completely different animated film to get a
nom, it's so obvious that UP won't win best film but best animated film - it's already in the bag... so what's the point?
that's why I was so charmed by MARY AND MAX which has been winning alot of international awards - the story was very adult and didn't dumb down in thinking they had to appeal to children when ultimately it's really NOT appropriate to kids at all. Even the other Australian animated movie $9.99 - is an animated movie specifically made for an adult audience.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I think what's interesting is that this year there are five movies that definitely wouldn't have been nominated last year. In my opinion, here they are: http://moviesfromeveryangle.wordpress.com/
And as far as historical accuracy is concerned, please. It's Quentin Tarantino, who gave us a tall tale in Kill Bill.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I think Up tried to balance too many balls in the air and seriously failed at it. Carl's story was interesting enough without having to include talking animals, a totally unnecessary villain, and an action set piece for the climax. The first half starts brilliantly then the second half floods us with kiddie movie cliches. It's just not as emotionally involving when dogs start flying airplanes.
Miyazaki did it better with a talking Avaitor pig in his film Porco Rosso
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I suppose a live satellite feed would be nice. They did it for Bob Dylan.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
In 2003, Adrien Brody won Best Actor as a result of Jack Nicholson and Daniel Day-Lewis splitting the vote.
Can it happen this year? I can see Jeff Bridges and George Clooney splitting the vote and allowing either Jeremy Renner or Colin Firth to sneak in and take the Best Actor Oscar.
Can it happen this year? I can see Jeff Bridges and George Clooney splitting the vote and allowing either Jeremy Renner or Colin Firth to sneak in and take the Best Actor Oscar.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
And I say this as someone who still loves the film, despite that cringe-worthy sequence.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
In 2009 they should've had a Best Foreign Language Film category (5 nominations) and a Best Foreign language Film from France Category (5 nominations), and there would not be one dud among them. Any country that can ignore 'Summer Hours' as their submission deserves it.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
No, what makes it great cinematography is the awesome camera angles and camera movements. Some of the most creative and flat-out awesome camera work I have ever seen.
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I'm not sure why Inglorious Basterds made your list. It got 8 nominations, including directing, screenplay, and editing, and you really think it wouldn't have made the cut if there were 5 BP nominees?
And as far as historical accuracy is concerned, please. It's Quentin Tarantino, who gave us a tall tale in Kill Bill.
And as far as historical accuracy is concerned, please. It's Quentin Tarantino, who gave us a tall tale in Kill Bill.
As for historical accuracy, I'm not condeming for the movie for it, I know that's part of what made it a hit. But this is the Academy. To them, you're either non-fiction or fiction, not both. I'm not saying I was surprised, again, I just don't think it would have made the cut last year.