2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
I didn't do so badly with my predictions this year, I got 78/106 with most of my misses in the technical categories.
Of the main categories I got these wrong:
I had Invictus instead of The Blind Side for best picture
I had Melanie Laurent and Julianne Moore instead of Maggie Gyllenhaal and Penelope Cruz for supporting actress
I had (500) Days of Summer and Avatar instead of The Messenger and Up for original screenplay
I had Invictus instead of In the Loop (my favorite surprise) for adapted screenplay
I had Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs instead of Secret of Kells for animated
I had Samson and Delilah instead of Ajami for foreign picture
I had Beaches of Agnes and Every Little Step for documentary instead of Which Way Home and Most Dangerous Man in America
So, only 10 misses in the major categories.
Of the main categories I got these wrong:
I had Invictus instead of The Blind Side for best picture
I had Melanie Laurent and Julianne Moore instead of Maggie Gyllenhaal and Penelope Cruz for supporting actress
I had (500) Days of Summer and Avatar instead of The Messenger and Up for original screenplay
I had Invictus instead of In the Loop (my favorite surprise) for adapted screenplay
I had Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs instead of Secret of Kells for animated
I had Samson and Delilah instead of Ajami for foreign picture
I had Beaches of Agnes and Every Little Step for documentary instead of Which Way Home and Most Dangerous Man in America
So, only 10 misses in the major categories.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
Am I missing something? How does Avatar get nominated for Cinematography? It's primarily an animated film, with a few live-action scenes blended in.
I mean, unless those shots within the human base were so amazing, I think they're thinking of the glorious visuals throughout the movie... but those were generated in a computer, not photographed with a camera... so how does it get nominated for cinematography??
I mean, unless those shots within the human base were so amazing, I think they're thinking of the glorious visuals throughout the movie... but those were generated in a computer, not photographed with a camera... so how does it get nominated for cinematography??
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Am I missing something? How does Avatar get nominated for Cinematography? It's primarily an animated film, with a few live-action scenes blended in.
I mean, unless those shots within the human base were so amazing, I think they're thinking of the glorious visuals throughout the movie... but those were generated in a computer, not photographed with a camera... so how does it get nominated for cinematography??
I mean, unless those shots within the human base were so amazing, I think they're thinking of the glorious visuals throughout the movie... but those were generated in a computer, not photographed with a camera... so how does it get nominated for cinematography??
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02-02-10, 06:58 PM
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02-02-10, 08:47 PM
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Like the rest of you, surprised to see The Blind Side make the cut. Generally speaking, the rest of the nominations were rather predictable.
02-02-10, 08:54 PM
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^ I agree, the Time Out New York review ripped apart 'The Blind Side' giving it 1 star out of 5
02-02-10, 09:06 PM
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The frontrunners aren't still locks...at least in some categories.
BEST PICTURE:
Avatar - w/o BP can pick up max of 5 wins
THL - If it can steal some tech awards from Avatar or if Renner pulls in an upset in BA
IB - A tech win or screenplay win puts it in the hunt
UITA - Some miracle if it can take screenplay, BSA - Anna Kendrick and Possibly Clooney
BEST ACTOR:
Crazy - Bridges get this, unless Renner upsets
UITA - Clooney's won before, but BSA for Syriana
THL - If Renner upsets, THL get BP
BEST ACTRESS:
TBS - Bullock pretty much has this
J&J - Streep's won before and nodded over a dozen times
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR:
IB - Waltz (LOCK)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Precious - Precious' consolation award (only possible win)
UITA - UITA's consolation award for Kendrick it if Reitman loses Adapted Screenplay
BEST DIRECTOR:
Avatar - Want Cameron to win - DESERVES to win but won't.
THL - A win doesn't mean a BP win unless like IB steals some tech awards from Avatar or a Renner win
IB - If only Basterds can steal some tech award momentum?
It's obvious it's Avatar/THL/IB as we all know, but no film has won BP since 1940 with less than 3 wins.
Avatar's easily got 3 wins in tech alone
THL gets Director, but needs another (not BP) in a variety of categories (Acting, Writing, Tech)
IB is locked for Waltz, like THL needs to rely on either a writing or tech win
Precious and UITA are defintely going to get a consolation Oscar (Babel, Atonement)
Education - empty handed
Up - Animated locked, Score - possible
D9 - If they spread the wealth in the tech categories, D9 might get 1 or 2
Blind Side - Bullock consolation oscar
Serious Man - empty handed (Coens in 07)
Also, BP and BD have been the same since 06.
00 - Gladiator/Traffic
01 - Beautiful Mind/Beautiful Mind
02 - Chicago/Pianist
03 - LOTR/LOTR
04 - MDB/MDB
05 - Crash/Brokeback
06 - Departed/Departed
07 - NCFOM/NCFOM
08 - Slumdog/Slumdog
It's due for a split.
BEST PICTURE:
Avatar - w/o BP can pick up max of 5 wins
THL - If it can steal some tech awards from Avatar or if Renner pulls in an upset in BA
IB - A tech win or screenplay win puts it in the hunt
UITA - Some miracle if it can take screenplay, BSA - Anna Kendrick and Possibly Clooney
BEST ACTOR:
Crazy - Bridges get this, unless Renner upsets
UITA - Clooney's won before, but BSA for Syriana
THL - If Renner upsets, THL get BP
BEST ACTRESS:
TBS - Bullock pretty much has this
J&J - Streep's won before and nodded over a dozen times
BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR:
IB - Waltz (LOCK)
BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS:
Precious - Precious' consolation award (only possible win)
UITA - UITA's consolation award for Kendrick it if Reitman loses Adapted Screenplay
BEST DIRECTOR:
Avatar - Want Cameron to win - DESERVES to win but won't.
THL - A win doesn't mean a BP win unless like IB steals some tech awards from Avatar or a Renner win
IB - If only Basterds can steal some tech award momentum?
It's obvious it's Avatar/THL/IB as we all know, but no film has won BP since 1940 with less than 3 wins.
Avatar's easily got 3 wins in tech alone
THL gets Director, but needs another (not BP) in a variety of categories (Acting, Writing, Tech)
IB is locked for Waltz, like THL needs to rely on either a writing or tech win
Precious and UITA are defintely going to get a consolation Oscar (Babel, Atonement)
Education - empty handed
Up - Animated locked, Score - possible
D9 - If they spread the wealth in the tech categories, D9 might get 1 or 2
Blind Side - Bullock consolation oscar
Serious Man - empty handed (Coens in 07)
Also, BP and BD have been the same since 06.
00 - Gladiator/Traffic
01 - Beautiful Mind/Beautiful Mind
02 - Chicago/Pianist
03 - LOTR/LOTR
04 - MDB/MDB
05 - Crash/Brokeback
06 - Departed/Departed
07 - NCFOM/NCFOM
08 - Slumdog/Slumdog
It's due for a split.
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02-02-10, 09:37 PM
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
even with the noms and critical praise I'm not that attracted in seeing 'Crazy Horse' or 'Precious' for that matter.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
Information on the new system used to determine Best Picture with the expanded category.
Academy will use a new method to tabulate best-picture ballots
Instead of one voter, one vote, the nominees will be ranked first to 10th. possible the winner will not have received the most first-place votes.
By Steven Zeitchik
February 3, 2010
The Oscars are using a preferential voting system this year to determine the best picture winner. Although attempting to understand the system can sometimes feel a little like trying to divine the secrets of cold fusion, the system is actually logical -- sort of.
Whereas all other categories will use the same system used in the past -- every voter gets to pick one of the five nominees, and the nominee with the most votes wins -- the 10-nominee best-picture category will function differently.
Voters will be asked to rank their best-picture choices from 1 to 10 (though they are not required to complete the ballot in full). Then the academy will gather the ballots and separate them in piles according to voters' first choices. Each movie gets its own pile -- the film that appears most frequently as a first-place choice will naturally have the largest stack, the movie with the next-most first-place votes will have the second-largest, and so forth. Then each stack is counted.
If one film has more than 50% of the votes on the first round (unlikely), it will be declared the winner. If it doesn't, the academy will take the shortest stack -- the movie that got the fewest first-place votes -- eliminate it from contention, remove its stack from the table and redistribute those voters' second choices to all the other stacks.
The tally then begins again: If a film now has passed 50% of the ballots (still pretty unlikely), it wins. If it doesn't, the auditors go to the smallest stack left, eliminate that movie, remove that stack, and go down those ballots to voters' next-highest choice (of a movie that remains in contention, of course), and redistribute the ballots across the piles once again. The process repeats until one stack ends up with a majority.
What all this means in practical terms -- apart from a lot of slips of paper -- is that, because it's unlikely that auditors will work their way past most voters' fourth or fifth choices before arriving at a winner, it actually could be preferable for a film to garner a lot of second- and third-place votes than to be a polarizing choice that splits evenly between first-place votes and, say, eighth- and ninth-place on the ballot.
That, in turn, means a movie could pull a Bush vs. Gore -- win best picture despite not getting the most first-place votes. Although, because the academy guarantees a secret ballot, few people would ever know.
Originally Posted by theenvelope.latimes.com
Academy will use a new method to tabulate best-picture ballots
Instead of one voter, one vote, the nominees will be ranked first to 10th. possible the winner will not have received the most first-place votes.
By Steven Zeitchik
February 3, 2010
The Oscars are using a preferential voting system this year to determine the best picture winner. Although attempting to understand the system can sometimes feel a little like trying to divine the secrets of cold fusion, the system is actually logical -- sort of.
Whereas all other categories will use the same system used in the past -- every voter gets to pick one of the five nominees, and the nominee with the most votes wins -- the 10-nominee best-picture category will function differently.
Voters will be asked to rank their best-picture choices from 1 to 10 (though they are not required to complete the ballot in full). Then the academy will gather the ballots and separate them in piles according to voters' first choices. Each movie gets its own pile -- the film that appears most frequently as a first-place choice will naturally have the largest stack, the movie with the next-most first-place votes will have the second-largest, and so forth. Then each stack is counted.
If one film has more than 50% of the votes on the first round (unlikely), it will be declared the winner. If it doesn't, the academy will take the shortest stack -- the movie that got the fewest first-place votes -- eliminate it from contention, remove its stack from the table and redistribute those voters' second choices to all the other stacks.
The tally then begins again: If a film now has passed 50% of the ballots (still pretty unlikely), it wins. If it doesn't, the auditors go to the smallest stack left, eliminate that movie, remove that stack, and go down those ballots to voters' next-highest choice (of a movie that remains in contention, of course), and redistribute the ballots across the piles once again. The process repeats until one stack ends up with a majority.
What all this means in practical terms -- apart from a lot of slips of paper -- is that, because it's unlikely that auditors will work their way past most voters' fourth or fifth choices before arriving at a winner, it actually could be preferable for a film to garner a lot of second- and third-place votes than to be a polarizing choice that splits evenly between first-place votes and, say, eighth- and ninth-place on the ballot.
That, in turn, means a movie could pull a Bush vs. Gore -- win best picture despite not getting the most first-place votes. Although, because the academy guarantees a secret ballot, few people would ever know.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
"The Blind Side" did not make one critics Top 10 list:
http://www.metacritic.com/film/award.../toptens.shtml
http://www.metacritic.com/film/award.../toptens.shtml
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
'Up' had arguably the best animated sequence in the history of animation in it, and balances so many balls in the air with such skill and grace... it's an amazing film.
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
In 2003, Adrien Brody won Best Actor as a result of Jack Nicholson and Daniel Day-Lewis splitting the vote.
Can it happen this year? I can see Jeff Bridges and George Clooney splitting the vote and allowing either Jeremy Renner or Colin Firth to sneak in and take the Best Actor Oscar.
Can it happen this year? I can see Jeff Bridges and George Clooney splitting the vote and allowing either Jeremy Renner or Colin Firth to sneak in and take the Best Actor Oscar.
02-03-10, 10:39 AM
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Re: 2009 Year in Film | 82nd Oscars Discussion Thread -- 03.07.2010
Don't get too carried away. It may have been your favorite, and it's definitely terrific, but it doesn't match 'Up'.
'Up' had arguably the best animated sequence in the history of animation in it, and balances so many balls in the air with such skill and grace... it's an amazing film.
'Up' had arguably the best animated sequence in the history of animation in it, and balances so many balls in the air with such skill and grace... it's an amazing film.
