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Given that Tom Hardy is one of the best actors working today, it's no downside to have him here. JGL has also proven his excellence in the past few years. Cotillard is an oscar winner, although she hasn't impressed me as much as Hardy has.

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I totally get this. It's also why I'm very curious as to the entertainment factor and popular response to Amazing Spider-man. Avengers looks to be a more colorful lark of a comic book experience, which would normally contrast well with a darker, more somber cbe a few months later. A few months from now, the novelty of Avengers will have likely worn off and people should be ready for something that isn't exactly like it. The problem for TDKR is, Spider-man undercuts it by a couple weeks with it's "I can be dark and gritty too" narrative and visual aesthetics. TDKR can't help but open huge because of the response to the last entry, but I have to wonder if AS-M isn't going to siphon off a lot of enthusiasm for darker, more 'self serious' material by that point in the summer.

It will be interesting to see how this summer plays out.
I have no dog in this fight as I expect, come November all these films will be sitting on my shelf.

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I highly doubt ASM will hit anywhere to the "dark" that TDK had. It's Sony on a big budget. They don't like to risk it on a superhero movie.

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http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/6004/batvsbane.gif

This all but confirms for me that when Batman and Bane fight for the first time, Batman will be

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or maybe he's just tired as fuck from an asskicking?

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What quantity of tired does 'fuck' signify?

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I guess you're trying to be sarcastic but that is clearly a simple expression of speech.

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That's my guess. I remember in Knightfall Batman is so worn out by the time he meets Bane that at one point he tries to throw a punch and doesn't even make contact.

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I don't get it

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You stated in the Avengers thread that it is now your all-time favorite movie.

Nothing could compare to it, especially only a trailer for a film. How could there be a comparison? The Avengers is one genre, TDKR is another genre. They may be comic book movies they play as two totally different animals.

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I don't think Amazing Spider-Man will be as dark as The Dark Knight Rises. The nature of the character means Spider-Man will never be as dark as Batman.

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Did you see the trailer? It's a play on the final line.

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Yeah, in Knightfall Bane broke every inmate out of Arkham Asylum and Batman wore himself out gathering them all up. Then Bane shows up at Wayne Manor and they fight and Batman only manages to hit Bane once during the entire battle because he was just so exhausted.


You obviously haven't read much Spider-Man if you don't think he can be as dark as Batman.

Have you never read Kraven's Last Hunt? That was a very dark story in which Kraven literally buries Spider-Man alive and commits suicide at the end by blowing his head off with a shotgun.

Or the late 80s/early 90s when Peter's parents supposedly came back but were ultimate revealed to be robots which drove Peter completely crazy and he became "The Spider" losing his human identity completely. He nearly beat Chameleon to death.

Then there's also the Spider-Man:Reign miniseries which is almost identical to The Dark Knights Returns in style and tone.

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I did see the trailer.

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Not even sarcastic. Just recently started thinking about what that expression means.

It's possible Bane wears Batman down and beats the shit out of him without any external factors. It could be due to Batman being rusty after long dormant periods. But, I still feel that Bane may get the upper hand in that first confrontation with a bit of help.

Plus, it was confirmed last fall that

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There is a chance that

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You're right - I just had a lot of excitement for Dark Knight Rises and seeing that trailer immediately post-Avengers (no trailers were played at the screening I attended so it wasn't until I got home) did absolutely nothing for me.

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I think we're talking about the movie context. There's no way in hell Spidey gets as dark as Batman in the Nolan movies. Not in ASM, sure as hell not from Raimi's run. Sony wouldn't allow it. At least not yet.

this. I don't think we're getting any fear gas. I'm going w/ that I'm 95% sure Batman is tired and he is way outmatched at point for Bane. You know..cuz it was in the comic. Also...that would make more sense and still lead to Batman getting his ass kicked hardcore over him...imagining Bane is this huge fuck and just....miss a punch cuz he thought there was mass there.

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I agree that the movie isn't going to be that dark, but Supermallet was saying that the nature of Spider-Man would never allow any dark stories to be told which I said was wrong because there have been several dark Spider-Man stories.

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I remember reading a quote from Avi Arad about having to reject a scene from one of the initial Spidey scripts where they have him slitting someone's throat, so there is that.

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And I've been saying that for months.

Yup, yup. I want a cookie. ;)

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That's about as believable as a flying pig. Just because something is "dark" doesn't mean that Spider-Man is going to turn into the Punisher.

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Daredevil, in the film, turned into the Punisher.

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Sorry I can't cue up an article I read when I was 16, but it's probably out there on the internet somewhere. Unless you meant the unbelievable part was Avi Arad exercising restraint, in which case I can sympathize. Plus it's not that unbelievable when you consider how many years it was until a Spider-Man movie actually came out. There were probably a ton of people who wrote scripts who didn't know shit about the character (or just didn't care).