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Rival11 05-02-12 09:37 PM
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Thought the new trailer was pretty good....loved how low key it was - that was awesome.

I'm so glad they didn't make Hardy pile on too much muscle for this flick - I think the look is perfect.

Not really sure what the hell to make out of catwoman though....throughout the trailer I just kept wondering "What was the point of including her?" but, we'll see soon enough.

DaveyJoe 05-02-12 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Rival11 (Post 11216565)
Not really sure what the hell to make out of catwoman though....throughout the trailer I just kept wondering "What was the point of including her?" but, we'll see soon enough.
The movie seems to be dealing with themes of class warfare, so it makes sense to include her.

RocShemp 05-02-12 09:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11216525)
it sounded like his voice was dubbed in louder than the rest of the trailer.
It was. They also downplayed the "muffled through a gas mask" sound (most pronounced when he says "I'm Gotham's reckoning") form the previous trailer and prologue, and added some bass (more like a deep rumble) to his voice when he utters the line "your punishment must be more severe".

Dr. DVD 05-03-12 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp (Post 11216593)
It was. They also downplayed the "muffled through a gas mask" sound (most pronounced when he says "I'm Gotham's reckoning") form the previous trailer and prologue, and added some bass (more like a deep rumble) to his voice when he utters the line "your punishment must be more severe".


I thought the same thing, but decided to keep quiet. Didn't want the Nolan worshippers to start something like:

-So first you're saying "He's inaudible, this is going to suck," now you're saying "He's obviously dubbed, that's bad filmmaking." Just admit it, you don't like Nolan.

Despite the fact that I do like Nolan, I just had trouble understanding Bane initially. ;)

Nick Martin 05-03-12 11:58 AM
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Darth Vader was dubbed, was that bad filmmaking for 3 of the 4 films he appeared in?

;)

:D

Rob V 05-03-12 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11217252)
Darth Vader was dubbed, was that bad filmmaking for 3 of the 4 films he appeared in?

;)

:D
Oh shit, this thread is about to go in a whole new direction!

RichC2 05-03-12 03:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11217252)
Darth Vader was dubbed, was that bad filmmaking for 3 of the 4 films he appeared in?

;)

:D
Yes but not because of the dubbing *runs*

This to me is all minor, I just hope the movie is good.

E Unit 05-03-12 04:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Nick Martin (Post 11217252)
Darth Vader was dubbed, was that bad filmmaking for 3 of the 4 films he appeared in?

;)

:D
Obligatory "I was dubbed?"

http://www.studiodaily.com/blog/wp-c.../560_darth.jpg

brayzie 05-03-12 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr. DVD (Post 11217086)
Despite the fact that I do like Nolan, I just had trouble understanding Bane initially. ;)
Well, hearing his voice coming through the mask is more realistic and sinister, because right now, it sounds like it was overdubbed. Maybe it's just 'cause I got used to the previous trailer and prologue though.

But it's for the best, because even simple things like "of course" sounded to me like, "ahvklaus."

Solid Snake 05-03-12 07:59 PM
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I understood Bane fine in the prologue...some people are just so sensitive.

Supermallet 05-03-12 08:31 PM
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:mad:

My Other Self 05-03-12 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11217898)
I understood Bane fine in the prologue...some people are just so sensitive.
That or maybe some people just have better hearing than others.

I could hear Bane but it was still difficult for me to decipher what the hell he was saying. Clearly a lot of people felt the same way for Nolan to have re-dubbed the entire film to clear it up.

DaveyJoe 05-03-12 08:42 PM
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Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 11217943)
I could hear Bane but it was still difficult for me to decipher what the hell he was saying. Clearly a lot of people felt the same way for Nolan to have re-dubbed the entire film to clear it up.
It could just be for the trailer. Nolan already publicly stated that while they were still working on the audio, he wouldn't change Bane's voice. I think most of the issues with the prologue came from the loud ambient noise from the aircraft, the CIA agent was drowned out a bit as well. And there's also some backlash against how Bane's voice sounds in the new trailer: too obviously dubbed. So who knows what will happen between now and July.

Why So Blu? 05-03-12 11:46 PM
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The whole trailer had most of the background noise, etc., purposely muted until it crescendo'd in the the last quarter. Nice touch.

fumanstan 05-04-12 12:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11217898)
I understood Bane fine in the prologue...some people are just so sensitive.
Yes, that's what it is.

Sigh.

Sonic 05-04-12 01:13 AM
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Bet you someone in the theater is going to yell "what did he just say!?"

Then some dude is gonna reply "HE'S GOTHAM'S RECTUM!"

kgrogers1979 05-04-12 01:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonic (Post 11218203)
Then some dude is gonna reply "HE'S GOTHAM'S RECTUM!"
And then Joker comes out and says "This town needs an enema!"

Boba Fett 05-04-12 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Sonic (Post 11218203)
Bet you someone in the theater is going to yell "what did he just say!?"

Then some dude is gonna reply "HE'S GOTHAM'S RECTUM!"
Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11218220)
And then Joker comes out and says "This town needs an enema!"

Nick Martin 05-04-12 02:57 AM
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http://jokerenema.ytmnd.com/

Dr. DVD 05-04-12 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 11217898)
I understood Bane fine in the prologue...some people are just so sensitive.

Here we (possibly) go again... :horse:

Having re-watched the bootleg prologue that was supplied to me by other means ;) , it is a bit more audible, but only because I have seen it so much and read transcripts . I will admit to thinking the muffled voice does actually work in context, but I swear I still cannot undersand what he says
Spoiler:
right before the man asks "Have we started a fire?"

georgec 05-04-12 04:59 PM
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Interesting theory about John Blake (possibly discussed already).

Spoiler:
While Bruce is in prison, John Blake takes up the Batman mantle. At some point he is killed, and shortly after Bruce returns as Batman to reclaim Gotham from Bane.

"A man is just flesh and blood and can be ignored or destroyed. But as a symbol... as a symbol, I can be incorruptible, everlasting."

Dragon Tattoo 05-05-12 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by georgec (Post 11219118)
Interesting theory about John Blake (possibly discussed already).

Spoiler:
While Bruce is in prison, John Blake takes up the Batman mantle. At some point he is killed, and shortly after Bruce returns as Batman to reclaim Gotham from Bane.

"A man is just flesh and blood and can be ignored or destroyed. But as a symbol... as a symbol, I can be incorruptible, everlasting."
Makes sense.

Why So Blu? 05-05-12 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by georgec (Post 11219118)
Interesting theory about John Blake (possibly discussed already).

Spoiler:
While Bruce is in prison, John Blake takes up the Batman mantle. At some point he is killed, and shortly after Bruce returns as Batman to reclaim Gotham from Bane.

"A man is just flesh and blood and can be ignored or destroyed. But as a symbol... as a symbol, I can be incorruptible, everlasting."

That's pretty brilliant.

kgrogers1979 05-05-12 03:30 AM
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John Blake's role confirmed:

Spoiler:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2...reportcard.jpg

But seriously though, John Blake does share the same first name as Jean Paul Valley from the comics, just spelled differently. It could be a coincidence, but maybe not. I think they just didn't want to use the name Jean Paul Valley in the movie because then it would be too obvious what is going to happen, so they changed it to John Blake.

reubs82 05-05-12 08:06 AM
Re: The Dark Knight Rises (Nolan)
 
Originally Posted by kgrogers1979 (Post 11219635)
John Blake's role confirmed:

Spoiler:
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/2...reportcard.jpg

But seriously though, John Blake does share the same first name as Jean Paul Valley from the comics, just spelled differently. It could be a coincidence, but maybe not. I think they just didn't want to use the name Jean Paul Valley in the movie because then it would be too obvious what is going to happen, so they changed it to John Blake.
Interesting. I've never read Knightfall, but it seems obvious that JGL must be more than just a cop. I can't wait to see how it all plays out.


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