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Old 01-27-06 | 09:25 PM
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Or he could simply not go and pay to see a movie because it doesn't sound like it will interest him. Of course that could start some silly name calling, though.
Too late.
Old 01-27-06 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ChristopherS
I always hear the term "man crush". I think it's cool that some straight guys can admit they find other guys attractive. Half the straight guys I know coincidentally have a man crush on Ryan Reynolds. Calling it 'brokeback', well it's at least a testement to the films place in pop culture, and probably something that'll pass once there's something else to talk about (i.e. stale enough to be out of a Jay Leno monologue).
Oh really?? Never heard that term before.
Who would have thought Straight Men had such good taste in men?
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Or he could simply not go and pay to see a movie because it doesn't sound like it will interest him. Of course that could start some silly name calling, though.
I will fully admit the only reason I saw the movie was because my wife wanted to. It’s just not the type of movie that interested me enough to go on my own. In my favor, though, my wife asks me to go with her all the time to “her” movies (i.e. romance, romantic comedies, and anything with Streisand or Cher in it). She usually sees those with he friends. I did agree to see this though (admittedly partly to see if it lived up to the hype).
Old 01-28-06 | 10:35 AM
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I will fully admit the only reason I saw the movie was because my wife wanted to. It’s just not the type of movie that interested me enough to go on my own. In my favor, though, my wife asks me to go with her all the time to “her” movies (i.e. romance, romantic comedies, and anything with Streisand or Cher in it). She usually sees those with he friends. I did agree to see this though (admittedly partly to see if it lived up to the hype).
And what did you think?
Old 01-28-06 | 12:42 PM
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I watched the Oprah special from yesterday. It was only half the show and mainly fluff.

But then again, what should I expect from someone who mainly caters to the frow of America.
Old 01-28-06 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by adamblast
Ya know, grandma, you could always close your eyes and plug your ears during the 60 seconds of fully-clothed implied sex... You'd probably love it. It's a movie about guys who feel just like you do, they spend the whole movie *not* doing it.
Word, and for all the folks who are avoiding this great movie like the plauge, let's not forget the lovely Anne Hathoway and her beautiful boobs.
Old 01-28-06 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
And what did you think?
Like I posted earlier: A very well made movie. Wonderfully acted and shot. Though, like I said, one or two scenes made me a tad uncomfortable. Even though I can't say I enjoyed it, exactly, I do recognize it as a quality film and won't have a knee jerk "Gay Agenda!" reaction if it wins an Oscar.

EDIT to add: The genre was just not my cup of tea. Had it been about a male/female relationship I still would not have enjoyed it (in fact, I recognize that it would have been a "lesser" movie by far, reducing to a Romeo/Juliet or even "American Beauty" like tragedy). It wasn't the "gay discomfort" that turned me off. There have been plenty of movies that made me far more uncomfortable for diferent reasons that I loved.

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Old 01-28-06 | 03:35 PM
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I saw the Oprah show too and although "fluff" (Oprah: "Let's talk about THE KISS!"), I found Jake Gyllenhaal VERY funny. He's quick witted and obviously the life of the party -- which they covered also: "Who's the life of the party?", "Who's the shyest?" Most of it was like a Teen People interview!
Old 01-28-06 | 07:05 PM
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Yeah Oprah's interview was pretty Tiger Beat (why exactly is her show so popular?). I did enjoy seeing the cast though especially. Can those eyes get anymore puppy dog like? Heath and Michelle looked great together. Anne looks like she needs to eat a sandwich or something.
Interesting question did pose though as if Anne Hathaway's character "knew" at the end.

Like I posted earlier: A very well made movie. Wonderfully acted and shot. Though, like I said, one or two scenes made me a tad uncomfortable.
I'm glad I have grown enough where I can honestly say no genre makes me "Uncomfortable." Think of all the good stuff people miss because of this.
Old 01-28-06 | 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by riley_dude
I'm glad I have grown enough where I can honestly say no genre makes me "Uncomfortable." Think of all the good stuff people miss because of this.
I'm not sure what being "grown enough" has to do with getting uncomfortable durring certain scenes. Like I posted:

"There have been plenty of movies that made me far more uncomfortable for diferent reasons that I loved."

Getting uncomfortable (as in moving out of your comfort zone) happens in many, many movies. If your comfort zone is so large it encompasses every movie I've seen... well I gotta wonder.

Unless of course you are specificly targeting the fact that watching simulated sex between two men makes me uncomfortable. If that is the case you should come out and say it.
Old 01-28-06 | 09:10 PM
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I'm not sure what being "grown enough" has to do with getting uncomfortable durring certain scenes. Unless of course you are specificly targeting the fact that watching simulated sex between two men makes me uncomfortable. If that is the case you should come out and say it.
Yes. Didn't the other thread teach you anything?

If you're straight and didnt like Brokeback, you've never longed for anything, you're not grown up and homophobic.

If you're gay and didn't like Brokeback, you've never longed for anything, you're not grown up and you're spoiled.

Did i miss anything?
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The sooner people quit over-generalizing, the sooner a real dialogue can flourish.
Old 01-29-06 | 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Patman
The sooner people quit over-generalizing, the sooner a real dialogue can flourish.
Obviously you weren't a part of the last thread.

Funny story, my ex went to see it tonight and a woman brought her 4 kids. He said they were around 2, 4, 6 and 10. I just can't imagine that. He said it was good.

Another friend went tonight and said it was "pretty sucky."

Both gay.
Old 01-29-06 | 12:33 AM
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Saw it finally... a very nice, well made movie. I was a little sad towards the end but thankfully not completely depressed, like I was after Requiem For A Dream. I'm suprized this movie is going over so well with females, since the females in the movie end up pretty hurt and neglected. Not to mention the picture it paints with the constantly crying kids. I wouldn't say the movie is necessarily overrated, but I felt maybe Heath Ledger is... I though Jake did as good or better a job, and the whole movie is just full of great acting. Overall I feel like the movie is about another place and time and one that I thankfully don't live in.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Obviously you weren't a part of the last thread.
I read that entire thread. It was sad, all that sniping and over-generalizing.

I'd hope we could get past that, and not return to the sniping/etc. and allow others to share their views on BBM fueled by their own past/present situations. Each person has their own unique perspective to share after seeing this film. Over-generalizing demographics tend to diminish such contributions/posts.

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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
What bias?
Please no repeats from the last thread. You're being borderline nasty and condescending again.

Originally Posted by adamblast
Ya know, grandma, you could always close your eyes and plug your ears during the 60 seconds of fully-clothed implied sex...

Guys, please don't do this. I *really* don't want to have to close this thread too.

We all understand that the two of you feel very differently about the film than each other, and than some of the other people in this discussion. You two, and possibly one or two others, need to find a way to ignore the comments that you find upsetting (of course, as long as they are within the bounds of the forum rules). The content is certainly going to bring out wildly varying opinions, and it's probably the case that everyone reading this is going to find some comment that they really don't like. Still, each of us must be able to communicate our thoughts without resulting to emotionally charged jabs at other members.

To everyone posting in this thread, please take a deep breath and think about what you are saying before you post. We'll all be better for it in the long run.
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Originally Posted by Patman
I read that entire thread. It was sad, all that sniping and over-generalizing.

I'd hope we could get past that, and not return to the sniping/etc. and allow others to share their views on BBM fueled by their own past/present situations. Each person has their own unique perspective to share after seeing this film. Over-generalizing demographics tend to diminish such contributions/posts.

Patman, well said.
Old 01-29-06 | 11:13 AM
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Classics are personal taste.
There are many movies that I dislike, but others loved.

An example is Silence of the lambs, "I do not like to see movies about Psychos killing other people". I also do not like movies about men/women cheating on their spouses, movies glorifying (or graphicly showing) drug use, movies like The Exorcist scare me too much, nor do I like movies like "Eyes Wide Shut"...

So, I would not consider "Brokeback Mountain : A Modern Classic", a movie that has a man leaving his wife for another man is not my cup of tea. There have been some old 'Girlfriends" I have thought of and missed sinced since I got married (I know other married guys have had the same thoughts), but I kept on driving by one of my old girlfriend's house (she lives close to my sister's house) even though I had longings to see her. The longing is to see how see is doing (she is married now), but not going there makes my marriage even better, because part of what makes a marriage romantic is commitment. Why should add any possibility of messing up my marriage, I have been married for over 15 years and I plan to stay married for many more years - with love that grows with commentiment.

Hollywood can vote this movie as the Movie of the Year, but it would not be my choice.
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Time for some funny stuff...take a look!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/...e_x.htm?csp=38
Old 01-29-06 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Doctor Gonzo
Time for some funny stuff...take a look!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/...e_x.htm?csp=38
That "Red State Update" was pretty funny.
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Classics are personal taste.
There are many movies that I dislike, but others loved.

An example is Silence of the lambs, "I do not like to see movies about Psychos killing other people". I also do not like movies about men/women cheating on their spouses, movies glorifying (or graphicly showing) drug use, movies like The Exorcist scare me too much, nor do I like movies like "Eyes Wide Shut"...

So, I would not consider "Brokeback Mountain : A Modern Classic", a movie that has a man leaving his wife for another man is not my cup of tea. There have been some old 'Girlfriends" I have thought of and missed sinced since I got married (I know other married guys have had the same thoughts), but I kept on driving by one of my old girlfriend's house (she lives close to my sister's house) even though I had longings to see her. The longing is to see how see is doing (she is married now), but not going there makes my marriage even better, because part of what makes a marriage romantic is commitment. Why should add any possibility of messing up my marriage, I have been married for over 15 years and I plan to stay married for many more years - with love that grows with commentiment.

Hollywood can vote this movie as the Movie of the Year, but it would not be my choice.
So..have you seen the movie?
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I went to see it today and loved it. It's an excellent film - the second great Ang Lee film that I've seen (the other being, "The Ice Storm.") If you're comfortable enough with your sexuality, and mature enough to actually watch this movie (and not be an idiot making gay jokes), then I'd definitely recommend this.
Old 01-29-06 | 05:54 PM
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I went to see it today and loved it. It's an excellent film - the second great Ang Lee film that I've seen (the other being, "The Ice Storm.") If you're comfortable enough with your sexuality, and mature enough to actually watch this movie (and not be an idiot making gay jokes), then I'd definitely recommend this.
OK. what did you love about it?

BTW, your caveats are saying the same thing.
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Originally Posted by Doctor Gonzo
Time for some funny stuff...take a look!

http://www.usatoday.com/life/movies/...e_x.htm?csp=38
Quick, watch the "Top Gun: Brokeback Squadron" parody before Tom Cruise sues somebody and it gets removed!

Another interesting viewpoint that I hadn't seen was in a letter to The Advocate this week after a cover story interview with Heath Ledger a few issues ago: (Spoilerized for talk of the ending of the film)

Spoiler:
I was horrified by the depressing, fear-filled Brokeback Mountain. Instead of what your cover-story interviewer called "a big deal for queer audiences," the film at heart is the same old story made in continuity with the Hollywood Production Code's mandate that gays, as guilty sinners, must be shown to suffer punishment. After suffering through Suddenly Last Summer, Cruising, and all the AIDS films, including even this year's Rent, here's still one more movie in which audiences see a gay man die. For the love of God, can't someone film a gay love story with a happy ending? BERT THOMPSON Chicago, IL
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They do have a point there. Most movies with gay themes have a character dying of AIDS at the end.


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