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"Brokeback Mountain" : A Modern Classic
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http://img331.imageshack.us/img331/150/jakeyy3sb.jpg I just finished reading the book by Annie Proulx (well, its a short story, really), and I am struck at how beautifully the story winds. I am sure even non-gay audiences will find something to like about the story, even if it is sort of Titanic-esque in spirit. What about the film? Are audiences around the world ready for a big budget Hollywood flick that depicts a gay romance (the entire movie is solely about the gay romance)? I am not exactly sure. Of course, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger in the lead roles, it should pull in most audiences, but still..... what are your thoughts? |
Honestly, I don't see this being successful, box office-wise. It may pull in some audience based on the reviews (assuming they are positive), but I don't see this reaching a huge mainstream audience unless it wins some major awards. Westerns are a tough sell to begin with. A lot of the people who are normally into westerns are the same people who will be turned off by the gay aspect.
Heath Ledger has a spotty record as a draw. A Knight's Tale did well, and Brothers Grimm had an okay opening... but Matt Damon had a lot to do with that. Beyond that, Lords of Dogtown, Four Feathers, and The Order all bombed. Jake Gyllenhaal hasn't even been the lead in a major motion picture yet (unless you count Day After Tomorrow, but that's a stretch...) I still don't think his name has big recognition power yet. |
I saw the trailer, I'm gay and I still had no interest in it. Maybe I'll hop into it but I don't think I'll be paying for it. Even the trailer made it look like a cheesy made-for-TV drama. I dunno. To me, I half expected it to go straight to Logo.
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Originally Posted by DRG
Jake Gyllenhaal hasn't even been the lead in a major motion picture yet (unless you count Day After Tomorrow, but that's a stretch...) I still don't think his name has big recognition power yet.
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I sure hope they eat pudding.
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I really have nothing against the gay lifestyle, but the idea of gay cowboys just makes me laugh. I think I'd just laugh uncontrollably through the whole film.
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Originally Posted by automator
Donnie Darko?
Bubble Boy? |
Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
I really have nothing against the gay lifestyle, but the idea of gay cowboys just makes me laugh. I think I'd just laugh uncontrollably through the whole film.
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Am I the only one that when seeing the title reads it at first to say "Bareback Mountain"? I know that is not the title, but I think that every time I see it.
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This is directed by Ang Lee. I don't plan on seeing this but I wish he do some more Asian film like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon which is still one of my favorite.
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Considering the OP hasn't even seen the movie yet, calling it a "modern classic" in the thread title seems a wee premature, doesn't it?
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Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
I really have nothing against the gay lifestyle, but the idea of gay cowboys just makes me laugh. I think I'd just laugh uncontrollably through the whole film.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
I sure hope they eat pudding.
Originally Posted by Sierra Disc
Considering the OP hasn't even seen the movie yet, calling it a "modern classic" in the thread title seems a wee premature, doesn't it?
Frankly, the bit in the trailer putting me off is Heath Ledger. He sounds like he's clawing his way out of a pit filled with Johnny Cash impersonators. |
Anyone else roll their eyes when they saw who the OP was?
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Originally Posted by DRG
Honestly, I don't see this being successful, box office-wise. It may pull in some audience based on the reviews (assuming they are positive), but I don't see this reaching a huge mainstream audience unless it wins some major awards. Westerns are a tough sell to begin with. A lot of the people who are normally into westerns are the same people who will be turned off by the gay aspect.
Heath Ledger has a spotty record as a draw. A Knight's Tale did well, and Brothers Grimm had an okay opening... but Matt Damon had a lot to do with that. Beyond that, Lords of Dogtown, Four Feathers, and The Order all bombed. Jake Gyllenhaal hasn't even been the lead in a major motion picture yet (unless you count Day After Tomorrow, but that's a stretch...) I still don't think his name has big recognition power yet. |
Originally Posted by FinkPish
Can I ask a question? Since when do movies, classic or otherwise, have to make money to prove themselves as quality films? Why is there an automatic assumption that a movie has to have made money in order to be good? This isn't aimed directly at you, but you immediately brought up box office figures as a way to pre-judge this movie. I'm not saying this movie will be a classic or make shit tons of money, in fact I highly doubt it will do the latter, but I'm just curious why people immediately turn to reciepts and grosses in order to judge a film's status.
Are audiences around the world ready for a big budget Hollywood flick that depicts a gay romance (the entire movie is solely about the gay romance)? I am not exactly sure. Of course, with Jake Gyllenhaal and Heath Ledger in the lead roles, it should pull in most audiences, but still.....what are your thoughts? |
I thought the question being asked was leaning more towards the maturity and open-mindedness of audiences, rather than how much money it could potentially make. Maybe I read it wrong. :shrug:
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Ang Lee generally does good work (please no Hulk references), so I'll probably check this out. Don't know anything about the story other that a few tidbits, but I can't imagine the movie doing well box office wise unless it gets some Oscar nods. I mean dramas have a pretty hard sell, westerns aren't easy sells, and gay western dramas sound like an impossible sell.
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I just watched the trailer, and I thought it looked interesting enough to check out. Not sure if it will even play at any theaters around here, though. I keep seeing "bareback mountain" when I read the title too.. I'm sure some porn producer is already filming that flick with the hopes of cashing in.
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Thought the trailer looked MUCH better than what people are saying. My friends all laughed at it, but I thought it looked like a solid film. Ang Lee is a great director, and the fresh idea might be a good change.
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I was referring to the book
Yes, I was referring to the book when I posted that title. Though the latest reviews of the movie from the Venice film festival have been more than positive with audiences weeping buckets. I dont know about that, but the book (or should I say 'novella' - its only 20 pages long) is darned good. You can get it off my blog for free : http://rawlikesashimi.blogspot.com - do read it, its great!
As for the film, I do not think that it will do wonders at the box office. The last time a somewhat big Hollywood star played a sensitive gay role - Colin Farrell in 'A Home at the end of the World', no one bothered. Now that was a terribly boring film. This one on the other hand actually LOOKS and FEELS like an epic based on the trailer alone, and I think the only thing that can ruin it would be Heath Ledger whose fake put-on American accent is getting a little irritating. They've taken it to ridiculous proportions here. I mean, even people in the 20s in Wyoming would not sound like that, I am sure. Its very very distracting, to say the least. I think Jake Gyllenhaal, though not a STAR star, is more than capable of a great performance, and just his expressions with his eyes during the trailer tell a tale. Considering this film also has the luminous Anne Hathaway, I would say its a must-see for all audiences. I think we can forget about Oscars for it though. Theres just no way. |
Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
I really have nothing against the gay lifestyle, but the idea of gay cowboys just makes me laugh. I think I'd just laugh uncontrollably through the whole film.
Glad you have nothing against my "gay" lifestyle. This past weekend, I went to the bank, purchased some overpriced gas, picked up my dry cleaning, grocery shopping, went to a cookout and had a few beers. :) |
Sorry, still laughing. :)
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Originally Posted by Jason Bovberg
Sorry, still laughing. :)
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Yeah, no problem. Hahaha, I love you guys. You're so serious.
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