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Old 01-25-05 | 07:55 PM
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For all those upset (myself included) about the lack of nominations for House of Flying Daggers you still have something to look forward to:
last week HoFD received 9 BAFTA Nominations including:
Film Not in the English Language
Actress in a Leading Role
Cinematography
Editing
Production Design
Costume Design
Sound
Achievement in Special Visual Effects
Make Up & Hair

BAFTA awards will be held February 12th, two weeks before the Oscars.
Old 01-25-05 | 08:13 PM
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Here is my entire post with the top awards predictions from this thread:

http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...03#post5704903

Originally Posted by conscience:
I'm loving this year a lot better than last year (as, sans ONE category, all are very unpredictable as to who can win although there are a lot of predictable nominees).

Here's my predictions - with notes (like anyone cares) - on the top six awards (they are similar to Grimfarrow's predix).

Best Picture

The Aviator
Finding Neverland
Million Dollar Baby
Ray (as much as the movie sucked, I think it might make it in the cat. I think Hackford is a no go though)
Sideways

I am guessing The Aviator (which has lost steam) or Sideways (as the small pic that should have won last year).

Best Director

Clint Eastwood - Million Dollar Baby
Mark Forster - Finding Neverland
Mike Nichols - Closer (Fresh off AIA - iffy, though)
Alexander Payne - Sideways
Martin Scorsese - The Aviator

I'm not sure the Academy will do another SURPRISE list like last year (ie: City of God's awards). Let's face it, most of the nods were a surprise. The winners were not.

Scorsese has the sympathy. Count out Eastwood? Not yet.

Best Actor

Don Cheadle - Hotel Rwanda
*Johnny Depp - Finding Neverland
*Leonardo DiCaprio - The Aviator
Jamie Foxx - Ray
Paul Giamatti - Sideways


*Possible knock off for Javier Bardem or Liam Neeson (the Academy hasn't been IN LOVE with Leo since he ate Gilbert Grape in 93)

Oh how I want Javier Bardem to be nominated and WIN! Foxx why not submit Breakin' All The Rules while you're at it?

Best Actress

(easiest five to predict)

Annette Benning - Being Julia
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Maria Full of Grace
Imelda Staunton - Vera Drake
Hilary Swank - Million Dollar Baby
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Winslet is a breath of fresh air. She won't win though. She is considered the weakest of the other four (why? I don't know.)

Best Supporting Actor

Thomas Haden Church - Sideways
Jamie Foxx - Collateral ( )
Morgan Freeman - Million Dollar Baby (might sneak up and win for his career)
Clive Owen - Closer
Peter Sarsgaard - Kinsey (goin' out on a limb)

Freeman getting his 'Pacino'? That's cool. At least his performance is in a good movie. Is Sideways too subtle for Church? AHHH!!!

Best Supporting Actress

Cate Blanchett - The Aviator
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Virgina Madsen - Sideways (From Candyman to Academy Award Winner )
Natalie Portman - Closer (should be Garden State)
Sharon Warren - Ray (goin' out on another limb. I could see Kate pulling a double, but Warren is getting buzzier and buzzier - and she is the best thing about the movie for me)

Could Regina King sneak in? I hope not. Warren is much better.

I see Madsen winning. She has had a pretty shitty career and this would giver her a boost for a year or two and then like most Supporting Actress winners of the past will file back into obscure tv movies.

oh and...

Best Animated Feature

The Incredibles - Do we have to put any other nominees? No.

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I also think this year might house a split between Director and Picture. It fits the facts, will the Academy do it again? With no lock on Director or Picture, it could happen again. That means next year we'll get a sure lock like ROTK or A Beautiful Mind.

Look at the past years:

1998 -
Pic: Shakespeare In Love
Dir: Steven Spielberg, Saving Private Ryan

1999 -
Pic: American Beauty
Dir: Sam Mendes, American Beauty

2000 -
Pic: Gladiator
Dir: Steven Soderbergh, Traffic

2001 -
Pic: A Beautiful Mind
Dir: Ron Howard, A Beautiful Mind

2002 -
Pic: Chicago
Dir: Roman Polanski, The Pianist

2003 -
Pic: The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King
Dir: Peter Jackson, The Lord Of The Rings: The Return Of The King

2004 -
Pic: Sideways
Dir: Martin Scorsese, The Aviator
OR
Pic: Million Dollar Baby
Dir: Martin Scorsese, The Aviator
OR
Pic: The Aviator
Dir: Clint Eastwood, Million Dollar Baby

etc.

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Cleaned up list, with no notes:

Best Picture

The Aviator
Finding Neverland
Million Dollar Baby
Ray
Sideways

Best Director

Clint Eastwood - Million Dollar Baby
Mark Forster - Finding Neverland
Mike Nichols - Closer
Alexander Payne - Sideways
Martin Scorsese - The Aviator

Best Actor

Don Cheadle - Hotel Rwanda
Johnny Depp - Finding Neverland
Leonardo DiCaprio - The Aviator
Jamie Foxx - Ray
Paul Giamatti - Sideways

Best Actress

Annette Benning - Being Julia
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Maria Full of Grace
Imelda Staunton - Vera Drake
Hilary Swank - Million Dollar Baby
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best Supporting Actor

Thomas Haden Church - Sideways
Jamie Foxx - Collateral
Morgan Freeman - Million Dollar Baby
Clive Owen - Closer
Peter Sarsgaard - Kinsey

Best Supporting Actress

Cate Blanchett - The Aviator
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Virgina Madsen - Sideways
Natalie Portman - Closer
Sharon Warren - Ray

Best Animated Feature

The Incredibles

Here are the actual nominees. The ones in bold are the ones that I did not get right, but I tell you...most of them were either the next or the third on my list. So this was a sort of predictable year.

Best Picture:

Predictable.

The Aviator
Finding Neverland
Million Dollar Baby
Ray
Sideways

Best Director:

Clint Eastwood - Million Dollar Baby
Taylor Hackford - Ray Not happy at all. I counted him out as the movie is "just okay" because of two things: Foxx and Warren.
Mike Leigh - Vera Drake Happy about this one. I like Leigh.
Alexander Payne - Sideways
Martin Scorsese - The Aviator

Best Actor:

Don Cheadle - Hotel Rwanda
Johnny Depp - Finding Neverland
Leonardo DiCaprio - The Aviator
Clint Eastwood - Million Dollar Baby I KNEW IT (in the back of my big headed mind)! I like this film, but I am content that Giamatti is much better. Eastwood is...Eastwood.
Jamie Foxx - Ray

Best Actress:

DUH! Easiest five to predict.

Annette Bening - Being Julia
Catalina Sandino Moreno - Maria Full of Grace
Imelda Staunton - Vera Drake
Hilary Swank - Million Dollar Baby
Kate Winslet - Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind

Best Supporting Actor:

Alan Alda - The Aviator I knew Sarsgaard was out, but I gave him a chance. Alda was my third upset nominee.
Thomas Haden Church - Sideways
Jamie Foxx - Collateral
Morgan Freeman - Million Dollar Baby
Clive Owen - Closer

Best Supporting Actress:

Cate Blanchett - The Aviator
Laura Linney - Kinsey
Virgina Madsen - Sideways
Sophie Okonedo - Hotel Rwanda She was my second after Warren (I am glad King did not get nominated).
Natalie Portman - Closer


I got 25/30 right or 83.33%. I got a B.

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Old 01-25-05 | 08:16 PM
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Good job conscience! You pretty much nailed it. Can you place bets somewhere on what gets nominated? Think I may look into that next year.
Old 01-25-05 | 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
Good job conscience! You pretty much nailed it. Can you place bets somewhere on what gets nominated? Think I may look into that next year.
Pop,

I am not sure, as I just do it for fun. Grimfarrow and I had really similar picks, but I didn't copy.

I am sure, though, that there are sites out there that let you do that sort of thing.
Old 01-25-05 | 08:40 PM
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Man, seeing Thomas Hayden Church get nominated for Sideways makes me want to go out and see that tonight. I need to see that flick.
Old 01-25-05 | 08:43 PM
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Sideways is made up of the most unlikeable assholes imagineable.

Man is it good. And Paul G. definitely deserved a nom for it.

I'm still a bit irked by the lack of nominations for a few films, but glad to see Sideways get its due. Eternal Sunshine getting more love would have been neat, but when it came right down to it, it just wasn't that phenomenal of a movie. Kate Winslet won me over though.
Old 01-25-05 | 08:46 PM
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no motorcycle diaries in foreign language...shark tale instead of polar express...no paul giammatti...

oh well...scorcese gets it i'll be happy...
Old 01-25-05 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
Haven't seen not a one of the Best Picture noms, likely won't. Could care less this year, bummer about Spider-Man 2 not getting a BP nom, then I'd have a movie to root for, but I'm sure Spider-Man 2 will get the Sound and Visual Effects awards. Also, if Shrek 2 beats the Incredibles, well, then theres no hope. Shrek 2 was the biggest piece of shit this year, and that's saying a lot, lest we remember Catwoman came out this year.
At the risk of the masses' wrath, no love for Shrek 2 here, either....and then to see it climb so close to the top rank of biggest grossing movie ever.
Old 01-25-05 | 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by cygnet74
recently, he's been playing marginalized characters without resorting to any kind of schtick or falling into caricature -- that's rare. instead, he keeps them human, even in the most absurd of circumstances.
Well said

His performance speaks volumes when his character doesn't say a word.
He should be nominated on his facial expressions alone - they tell so much of what he's thinking.
Old 01-25-05 | 09:03 PM
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I'm really surprised by Alan Alda's best supporting actor nomination. He didn't stand out at all in that movie. It should have went to David Carradine for Kill Bill 2.
There hasn't been any Academy love for the Kill Bill opus either year. Both years Uma gets a nom at the Globes and both years she gets snubbed for an Oscar nom. It would have been great to see Carradine get an Oscar nom, because he's not likely to ever have another part that will afford him one.
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This is one of those like a couple of years ago when John Voight got a nom for playing Howard Cosell for like 5 minutes in Ali. Both were fine performances, but not a lot there. David Carradine MADE Kill Bill 2. I'll never look at Clacrk Kent the same way again.

As far as Jamie Foxx in that catagory, his performance in Collateral was very good, BUT... How on earth is it a supporting performance? The movie is about a cab driver who picks up a hitman, not a movie about a hit man. Who is he supporting? Since when does second-billed mean supporting? When you think about it, he has probably double or triple the screen time of Best Actress nominee Kate Winslet.
Under this line of thought, how can one call Carradine's part a supporting actor role? I don't know of any male actor in the movie who could be called the leading actor OTHER than him.
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Under this line of thought, how can one call Carradine's part a supporting actor role? I don't know of any male actor in the movie who could be called the leading actor OTHER than him.
Michael Madesen, Gordon liu, sonny chiba...all could be considered leading

Michael Parks is also a supporter...
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For the most part I'm okay with the noms. Considering all the love it got here on the forum I did expect Eternal Sunshine to get a best picture nom, but as was mentioned elsewhere, Sideways seems to have plucked that slot away. I'm torn. I'd like to see Scorcese win an Oscar at last, but he's done better pictures. I think the Academy will do the same thing here they did at the Globes, split the director and picture awards between Aviator and MDB.
If someone wasn't going to get the nod they got, I would have taken Cheadle off the list, not Clint. I must be the only person around who thinks Tom Hanks should have been considered for The Terminal. The movie may have it's flaws but I thought Hanks was dead on.
Also, you have to wonder if there might be some voters who lean towards Morgan Freeman for supporting actor......we're talking about a wonderful actor who has only had a handful of nods, and the man isn't getting any younger. No, I don't expect it to happen. I'm still mystified as to why Alan Alda got a nom.
As for Foxx, even if they were to give him best supporting actor (which I also don't see happening) he needs to stay in his seat cos the man is a lock for Ray; to me that's the one sure win out of the whole list.

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Old 01-25-05 | 09:45 PM
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Eternal Sunshine deserved to get more Nominations. I thought Jim Carrey did an excellent job in this movie. It getting released so early in the year probablly hurt it.
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Also, you have to wonder if there might be some voters who lean towards Morgan Freeman for supporting actor......we're talking about a wonderful actor who has only had a handful of nods, and the man isn't getting any younger. No, I don't expect it to happen.
I'd like to see it happen. I haven't even seen Million Dollar Baby but it'd be nice to see Freeman get the gold even as a sort of 'lifetime achievement' award. He's been a consistently great actor even in his shitty films for a long, long time.
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At the risk of the masses' wrath, no love for Shrek 2 here, either....and then to see it climb so close to the top rank of biggest grossing movie ever.
I nearly walked out at the Pinnochio/thong joke. 'Livin La Vida Loca'. Is this shit the only way to get laughs in an animated film these days?

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Old 01-25-05 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt
'Sideways' - not worth an Oscar nomination. It was the whole 'Lost in Translation' fever. The Academy is pressured to pick small films.
Pressured? Maybe they really liked the film? 'Sideways' appeals to a slightly older crowd anyways, what with the main character going through a mid-life crisis
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Originally Posted by Rivero
Pressured? Maybe they really liked the film? 'Sideways' appeals to a slightly older crowd anyways, what with the main character going through a mid-life crisis
Yes, I suppose that is part of it. What was that other mid-life crisis movie the Academy loved...American Beauty.
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Yes, I suppose that is part of it. What was that other mid-life crisis movie the Academy loved...American Beauty.

Well, don't forget it's hardly just the Academy who loved those movies. Sideways is a critical darling all over the place.

And I haven't seen Sideways, but I for one loved Lost in Translation and thought it deserved ever nod it got.
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I just want to know how Ghost In the Shell 2: Innocence didn't get nominated for Best Animation. I haven't seen Shark Tale, but Shrek 2 was pretty much overrated crap. The only good thing about it was Antonio Banderas as Puss In Boots.

Ghost In the Shell was amazing. Maybe the Academy thought it was too deep for an animated film...?
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Precisely, and it may have been nominated in the category if there were actually any people alive that speak Aramaic.
Blame that on the Oscar system. But it doesn't change the fact that PASSION is not in English - hence "foreign". Just because the language isn't spoken anymore doesn't change the fact that it's still a foreign language, just like a film made in Latin.
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no motorcycle diaries in foreign language...
Again, it's not eligible. Not submitted by any countries, and produced by Robert Redford.
Old 01-25-05 | 11:30 PM
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At the risk of the masses' wrath, no love for Shrek 2 here, either
These masses obviously do not reside at DVDTalk, because everyone here hates it. I've seen Elektra get more love here than Shrek 2. Oh well, I liked it, although I think Incredibles was better.
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While I enjoyed Giamatti in Sideways, I'm not disappointed he wasn't nominated. I loved the movie, but he didn't wow me enough I guess to make me that upset he wasn't nominated. To be totally honest, I was more peeved this morning when I first read the nominations, but after seeing Million Dollar Baby tonight, if nominating Giamatti means Eastwood is off the list, I'm find with his omission.

I liked Alan Alda in The Aviator and was pleased to see he was nominated. It never even occurred to me that he might be considered, but I thought he was an important piece of the film and he gave a great, memorable performance. But then again, unlike most people around here, I was floored by The Aviator and it was definitely one of my favorite films this year.

I know I am alone in this too, but I liked Eternal Sunshine, but never understood all the excitement over it. It's a good film and I own it, but really didn't think anybody was award-worthy in that film, or the film itself for that matter. Collateral falls into that category for me too. I know there were those who thought the film itself deserved to be nominated, but I didn't care for much of it at all. It was ok, but I still don't understand how Jamie Foxx got the nod for that one.

I'm still one movie short of seeing all five nominated best films this year after seeing MDB tonight. I also still want to see Hotel Rwanda as I thought that had a chance of earning a nod, but I at least plan to see Ray this week. But right now, it would be hard for me to pick a favorite between The Aviator, Million Dollar Baby and Sideways. Those were probably my three favorite movies of the year (although I am sure I am probably forgetting something and since I am such a big fan of Cheadle, I have a feeling Hotel Rwanda might creep up in there) so was glad to see them get recognition. I liked Finding Neverland fine, but it didn't stick with me at all like the other films did I guess.

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Originally Posted by Tarnower
I have a feeling "Sideways" may turn out to be this year's "Annie Hall."
I have to disagree with that.

Remember, by the time Annie Hall came out, Woody Allen already had a pretty substantial filmography of well-liked films and I think AMPAS members were wanting to give Oscars for his work, and Annie Hall, which was probably Allen's best film up to that time, won almost by default, probably (in my humble opinion!) due to the New York City contingent of AMPAS voters overwhelmingly voting for Allen's work.

However, this year is more likely that Martin Scorsese will win Best Director for The Aviator and the movie will win Best Picture--this movie is the type film AMPAS voters really like. While Million Dollar Baby is a very good film its controversial plot twist could deter some voters from selecting it for Best Picture and Director, though I think Morgan Freeman will likely win for Best Supporting Actor.


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