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The last truly Oscar-worthy turn by Depp was his supporting role in Donnie Brasco. It'll be a fuckin joke if this long-time excellent actor finally wins the gold for such a maudlin, predictable piece of schmaltzy pap like Finding Neverland.
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Originally Posted by Rivero
The last truly Oscar-worthy turn by Depp was his supporting role in Donnie Brasco. It'll be a fuckin joke if this long-time excellent actor finally wins the gold for such a maudlin, predictable piece of schmaltzy pap like Finding Neverland.
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
Got 2 things to say about this:
Finding Neverland was one of the best (if not THE best) movie I saw last year.
and all this hoopla around Sideways is quickly making it one of the worst. It was just "ok" when I saw it. But I seriously don't understand any of this craziness about it. It was just damn boring. And even as an actor, I don't get the appeal of Paul. There's not a damn thing special about him or his performance.
Finding Neverland was one of the best (if not THE best) movie I saw last year.
and all this hoopla around Sideways is quickly making it one of the worst. It was just "ok" when I saw it. But I seriously don't understand any of this craziness about it. It was just damn boring. And even as an actor, I don't get the appeal of Paul. There's not a damn thing special about him or his performance.
There were plenty of movies this year that have received critical acclaim that I didn't care for. But I just scratch my head in wonder and move on. I don't dwell over them and decide that I hate them that much more because other people seem to really like it. Raging Bull is a good example for me. I didn't care for that film, thought it was merely ok. But when people go on and on about it and how it was robbed, I just shrug my shoulders. Different strokes my friend.
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Originally Posted by Rivero
The last truly Oscar-worthy turn by Depp was his supporting role in Donnie Brasco. It'll be a fuckin joke if this long-time excellent actor finally wins the gold for such a maudlin, predictable piece of schmaltzy pap like Finding Neverland.
Sure Goodfellas is better than The Aviator in my opinion. Yeah, Depp gave a better performance in Donnie Brasco than he did in Finding Neverland, again in my opinion. But what does that matter? It's The Aviator against Sideways, Finding Neverland, Million Dollar Baby and Ray, not The Aviator against Goodfellas or Raging Bull. So if someone had an amazing performance in the past, they should never be worthy for a recognition in the future unless they manage to surpass that previous piece of work? I'm just lost in that line of thinking.
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Originally Posted by badger1997
Sure Goodfellas is better than The Aviator in my opinion. Yeah, Depp gave a better performance in Donnie Brasco than he did in Finding Neverland, again in my opinion. But what does that matter? It's The Aviator against Sideways, Finding Neverland, Million Dollar Baby and Ray, not The Aviator against Goodfellas or Raging Bull. So if someone had an amazing performance in the past, they should never be worthy for a recognition in the future unless they manage to surpass that previous piece of work? I'm just lost in that line of thinking.
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Quick Question: Was Infernal Affairs eligible for Best Foreign Film? I'm curious because I thought this movie was absolutely amazing and wish it would be nominated to gain a little more exposure.
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Originally Posted by The Ferret
Eh, i can understand why you'd compare someone's work with their older work. It can be interesting to hear what a critic thinks of the Aviator compared to Goodfellas for example.
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He's still young and he's not going anywhere - he still has many more great performances in him.
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Young, yes. But Johnny Depp is a chainsmoker, so he may not around for as long as you might think. He might be going somewhere very soon if he keep it up.
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I expect The Aviator to take Best Picture. It's a big Hollywood extravaganza and it's gaining momentum every day.
I do think that Million Dollar Baby will earn a director win for Eastwood, though (gotta never give Scorsese that director oscar - like Hitchcock) and Million Dollar Baby is a dead balls lock for Best Adapted Screenplay.
How can Jamie Foxx not win Best Actor? He's got hell of buzz, his movie comes out on DVD on Tuesday so it'll be fresh in voters' minds, and he gave an entertaining acceptance speech at the Golden Globes. Since most of the nominated films are dour and sad people will want to liven things up.
I don't understand how mediocre films like Finding Neverland and Ray are getting nominations for Best Picture when there are more obvious choices and much better films released. No nominations whatsoever for Kill Bill Vol. 2? No best picture nominations for Eternal Sunshine, Closer, Before Sunset, The Passion of the Christ, The Assassination of President Nixon, or Spider-Man 2?
Oh well. 2004 seems to have turned out to be another of those lesser Oscar years, when we'll look back over whichever of these five wins best picture and it will not compare favourably with the years flanking it.
Does anyone still think Gladiator was one of the best films of the past decade? Or the utterly forgettable Chicago?
I do think that Million Dollar Baby will earn a director win for Eastwood, though (gotta never give Scorsese that director oscar - like Hitchcock) and Million Dollar Baby is a dead balls lock for Best Adapted Screenplay.
How can Jamie Foxx not win Best Actor? He's got hell of buzz, his movie comes out on DVD on Tuesday so it'll be fresh in voters' minds, and he gave an entertaining acceptance speech at the Golden Globes. Since most of the nominated films are dour and sad people will want to liven things up.
I don't understand how mediocre films like Finding Neverland and Ray are getting nominations for Best Picture when there are more obvious choices and much better films released. No nominations whatsoever for Kill Bill Vol. 2? No best picture nominations for Eternal Sunshine, Closer, Before Sunset, The Passion of the Christ, The Assassination of President Nixon, or Spider-Man 2?
Oh well. 2004 seems to have turned out to be another of those lesser Oscar years, when we'll look back over whichever of these five wins best picture and it will not compare favourably with the years flanking it.
Does anyone still think Gladiator was one of the best films of the past decade? Or the utterly forgettable Chicago?
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I expect The Aviator to take Best Picture. It's a big Hollywood extravaganza and it's gaining momentum every day.
Personally, I think The Aviator's best chance lies in its box-office takings between now and the Oscars. If it can up its current $73 million gross to get within spitting distance of $100 million then it'll be all but impossible for voters to ignore. Especially since there's no way M$B, which has only gone nationwide today, can equal that take in the time left. But then it apparently doesn't need to. David Poland reckons that just half that amount makes Baby a respectable box-office champ in the eyes of Academy voters. So if Clint's movie performs really well and The Aviator only so-so then I think Scorsese had better watch out. This weekend's gross for both films will make very interesting reading.
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Originally Posted by jough
Oh well. 2004 seems to have turned out to be another of those lesser Oscar years, when we'll look back over whichever of these five wins best picture and it will not compare favourably with the years flanking it.
Does anyone still think Gladiator was one of the best films of the past decade? Or the utterly forgettable Chicago?
Does anyone still think Gladiator was one of the best films of the past decade? Or the utterly forgettable Chicago?
Oh, and I'm not a big Gladiator fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I know many people who are and I flat out love Chicago and don't find it forgettable at all. Was so happy the year Chicago won.
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If the Academy insists on giving Scorsese his Oscar, I can accept it (although I think it should go to Eastwood by a mile). I just saw Million Dollar Baby and I think it's Eastwood's best film in a distinguished directing career and so far ahead of everything else for Best Picture. I will be very upset if it doesn't win. The lead threesome were all brilliant and I wouldn't be upset to see any or all of them win. This is that rare picture which will stay with me as long as I live.
I've seen all the Best Picture nominees except Ray and I like them all and I think they are worthy nominees. But M$B blows them away.
I've seen all the Best Picture nominees except Ray and I like them all and I think they are worthy nominees. But M$B blows them away.
#189
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I just saw Million Dollar Baby and I think it's Eastwood's best film in a distinguished directing career and so far ahead of everything else for Best Picture. I will be very upset if it doesn't win. The lead threesome were all brilliant and I wouldn't be upset to see any or all of them win.
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Originally Posted by Buttmunker
Nobody mentioned the omissions of Jim Carrey (Eternal Sunshine) and Kevin Bacon (The Woodsman). Do you think their absences are warranted?
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I saw Million Dollar Baby last night and am convinced that if it does not win, it will be a terrible disservice to the film industry. What a wonderful, thoughtful, engaging, entertaining, and heartbreaking film. No other film this year grabbed me and wouldn't let go, save for perhaps Vol. 2 and Spider-Man 2. I adored it. Hillary Swank's "Maggie" was without a doubt the best performance of the year, even topping Uma in Vol. 2. Clint was, well he was good ole Clint, always reliable. And Morgan is the best actor of his generation without a doubt, finally he's back to making quality work after his Ashley Judd years. Jamie Foxx doesn't hold a candle to Morgan. No other actress nominated had more heart in her performance than in one frame of Swank's work. And no movie nominated this year was better than Million Dollar Baby.
And let me just say that I think it's ridiculous that all of these biopics are getting all these nominations. Enough with this shit. Read a book people, find out what really happened. Why would people think that creating a performance on screen based on someone else is harder than creating a truly unique performance, such as Swank and Freeman. It's a travesty, there was far better work this year than Leo's over-the top Howard Hughes's or Jamie Foxx huggin the camera with Ray.
Oh and what a friggin travesty that Million isn't nominated for best score! What were they thinking. If it isn't big loud and abrasive it isn't worth listening too. Argh!
I now have a movie to root for this year, but I'm sure they'll feel all sorry for Scorcese and award his blundering 3 hours long ego-trip. *sigh*
And let me just say that I think it's ridiculous that all of these biopics are getting all these nominations. Enough with this shit. Read a book people, find out what really happened. Why would people think that creating a performance on screen based on someone else is harder than creating a truly unique performance, such as Swank and Freeman. It's a travesty, there was far better work this year than Leo's over-the top Howard Hughes's or Jamie Foxx huggin the camera with Ray.
Oh and what a friggin travesty that Million isn't nominated for best score! What were they thinking. If it isn't big loud and abrasive it isn't worth listening too. Argh!
I now have a movie to root for this year, but I'm sure they'll feel all sorry for Scorcese and award his blundering 3 hours long ego-trip. *sigh*
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
It's a travesty, there was far better work this year than Leo's over-the top Howard Hawk's or Jamie Foxx huggin the camera with Ray.
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Originally Posted by Duder
That you don't know Howard Hughes's name leads me to believe two things: that you didn't see The Aviator, and that you have no idea what Howard Hughes was really like--which rather discredits your slam on DiCaprio's acting in that film, IMO.
No I have no clue what Hughes was really like, but if I wanted to I'd read a book about his life. I saw the majority of the film before I couldn't take it any longer and walked out. Terrible trite film.
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
Oh and what a friggin travesty that Million isn't nominated for best score! What were they thinking. If it isn't big loud and abrasive it isn't worth listening too. Argh!
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
And let me just say that I think it's ridiculous that all of these biopics are getting all these nominations. Enough with this shit. Read a book people, find out what really happened. Why would people think that creating a performance on screen based on someone else is harder than creating a truly unique performance, such as Swank and Freeman. It's a travesty, there was far better work this year than Leo's over-the top Howard Hughes's or Jamie Foxx huggin the camera with Ray.
But I agree with you that Million Dollar Baby is the best overall film of the year...although Foxx's performance in Ray is just brilliant (Eastwood would be my runner-up pick).
I think playing a real life person (especially as one as well known as Ray Charles) is MUCH more difficult to pull off. Because you're acting within a KNOWN UNIVERSE. When you create your own character (or play one written for you) you have much more freedom in developling what the character is like...and if you hit a false note, the audience isn't as likey to notice.
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But your still creating a character that people know. Anyone can do a Ray Charles impersonation. I don't see how creative that is. Your basing a performance on something that is readily available versus creating a unique and interesting character. I find the latter far more entertaining and well harder to pull off.
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
But your still creating a character that people know. Anyone can do a Ray Charles impersonation. I don't see how creative that is. Your basing a performance on something that is readily available versus creating a unique and interesting character. I find the latter far more entertaining and well harder to pull off.
I've got no qualms with the actor nominees up there. They're all deserving.
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Originally Posted by QuiGonJosh
But your still creating a character that people know. Anyone can do a Ray Charles impersonation.



