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Old 01-25-05 | 02:25 PM
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And just when and how did Johnny Depp become the Darling of Hollywood? After alllllllllll these years, suddenly someone opens their eyes and takes notice?! Odd how that happens, you know? I couldn't be happier. I think he was, for many years, an underrated actor.
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
By your logic, THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST is also a foreign film.
The category is called 'FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM', Grim. Not 'FOREIGN FILM'.
Old 01-25-05 | 02:46 PM
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I agree wholeheartedly. Sideways is this year's "emporer's new clothes," not to mention god awful. I'm going to hope Finding Neverland pulls an upset, a la Shakespeare in Love (vs. more serious fare, such as Saving Private Ryan). It is by far the best movie this year.
Your opinion only. In mine you are very, very wrong.
Old 01-25-05 | 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bookcase3
I agree wholeheartedly. Sideways is this year's "emporer's new clothes," not to mention god awful. I'm going to hope Finding Neverland pulls an upset, a la Shakespeare in Love (vs. more serious fare, such as Saving Private Ryan). It is by far the best movie this year.
to me, FN was full of contrived emotions, clichéd plotting, and underwelming camerawork. far from "the best movie of the year", IMO. Sideways, on the otherhand, exhibited truthful characters that convincingly defined the plotting of the story. where FN was heavy-handed, SW was revealing.
Old 01-25-05 | 02:56 PM
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This is the 2nd time Clint Eastwood directed himself to a Best Actor nomination
It's also the same tired ass character he's played too many damn times. The aged, divorced/lonely character that's haunted by past mistakes. Get a new schtick Clint.

I don't think SM2 was ever a contender for a BP nom. As for visuals SM2 is the popular choice, but I, Robot was way more impressive visually.
I would say none of the above. Harry Potter should win this category over both. However, past voting proves when it comes to this category, the Academy doesn't have a frickin' clue what they're voting for. So they usually just select the the best picture of the three.

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Old 01-25-05 | 03:01 PM
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So Giamatti got snubbed 2 years in a row.

Not surprising, this is the Oscars afterall.
Old 01-25-05 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by DonnachaOne
He's black. See also Pulp Fiction.
That, or Dreamworks thought he had a better chot of a supporting actor win, so they pushed him for that.
I doubt being black has anything to do with it. If the performances are there, The Academy has no problem nominating people of any race. In general, Hollywood is probably the least racist place in the world, as they only see things in one color, green.

Now, the studio decides which category people are submitted in, not The Academy. Considering that there was no way in hell Jamie Foxx was going to get a best actor nod for Colateral, none at all, especially next to the Ray performance. But, it was possible for him to get a best supporting actor nod, so they put him in that category. So, rather than just give up any chance of a acting nom for that movie (which they most assuredly would have if they had put Foxx in the actor category) they put him in the supporting role. I seriously doubt race has anything to do with it.

And the same goes for Pulp Fiction. I really doubt that had anything to with race either, but like Colaterral, it had to do with a big movie star, and a lesser known one. Submitting both to a best actor nod would probably have gotten one of them snubbed...and it'd probably be Jackson, not because he's black but because Travolta was by far the more known star at the time, and therefore the bigger story and the better chance to get the nod or the award. By splitting them up, they both get the proper nominations. Sure it doesn't always match the movie correctly, and yes, there is favoritism shown to people with more distinguished careers and more fame, but race, I must say, pretty much has nothing to do with it.
Old 01-25-05 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by DonnachaOne
He's black. See also Pulp Fiction.
Big difference. Samuel L Jackson wasn't really a supporting performer, but he was only in about 40% of the film's running time (compared to Travolta's 70%). I don't know how one would sum up Pulp Fiction in one sentence, but it wouldn't revolve first and foremost around Jules (though he is indeed one baaaad muthafucka). The Hours was another episodic piece that was open to various interpretations of lead vs supporting. Collateral was about Jamie Foxx's character. End of story. He was in almost every scene, from before Cruise's character arrived to after his exit. The only reason he's nominated in this catagory is because he's a hot commodity for Ray and the studio(s) that put out Collateral wanted to jump on the bandwagon. It's not fair to other actors who really did great work in supporting roles.
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Originally Posted by Rivero
Your opinion only. In mine you are very, very wrong.
about FN or or Sideways??
Old 01-25-05 | 03:19 PM
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So Giamatti got snubbed 2 years in a row.

Not surprising, this is the Oscars afterall.
*shakes head*

i simply don't get it. why is he so great??

sorry, probably for another thread.
Old 01-25-05 | 03:24 PM
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Originally Posted by digitalfreaknyc
*shakes head*

i simply don't get it. why is he so great??

sorry, probably for another thread.
recently, he's been playing marginalized characters without resorting to any kind of schtick or falling into caricature -- that's rare. instead, he keeps them human, even in the most absurd of circumstances.

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Old 01-25-05 | 03:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rivero
The category is called 'FOREIGN LANGUAGE FILM', Grim. Not 'FOREIGN FILM'.
Yes, but PASSION is indeed a foreign language film.
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Originally Posted by Decker
Big difference. Samuel L Jackson wasn't really a supporting performer, but he was only in about 40% of the film's running time (compared to Travolta's 70%). I don't know how one would sum up Pulp Fiction in one sentence, but it wouldn't revolve first and foremost around Jules (though he is indeed one baaaad muthafucka). The Hours was another episodic piece that was open to various interpretations of lead vs supporting. Collateral was about Jamie Foxx's character. End of story. He was in almost every scene, from before Cruise's character arrived to after his exit. The only reason he's nominated in this catagory is because he's a hot commodity for Ray and the studio(s) that put out Collateral wanted to jump on the bandwagon. It's not fair to other actors who really did great work in supporting roles.

Reminds me of Training Day which got Denzel a best actor award, but only got Ethan Hawke a best supporting actor nomination. The story follows Hawke around, and he's on-screen for more of the movie. If anything, I'd say he's the leading actor, although in reality they both are male leads for Training Day. There simply was no female lead. still, it made no sense how the nominations for that movie went about as well.
Old 01-25-05 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
Yes, but PASSION is indeed a foreign language film.

It was an ancient foreign language.... doesnt count


it would have just been eligable for best picture
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I thought Giamatti was gonna be a lock...
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I thought Sideways was middle age actors playing middle age characters doing things middle aged people do. Pretty boring to me and I dont get all the love for it. But thats the beauty of this site, we all have our opinions. If Kate wins, Ill be one happy camper, but Im not holding my breath on this one. Im pulling for Finding Neverland for best picture as well. This will be an interesting year for the Oscars since there doesnt seem to be many clear cut locks.
Old 01-25-05 | 05:49 PM
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Still have ta see Million Dollar Baby and Finding Neverland. I'll reserve my picks til then, but my fav movies for 2004 thus far are RAY and CLOSER.

No real surprises for me, except maybe Vera Drake for Direction. (Not undeserved, just not part of the pre-nom buzz.)
Old 01-25-05 | 06:06 PM
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Clint stole acting from Paul G. and that is too bad even though I love Clint and MDB was great but not his acting, directing fine, but not acting it got enuf. The Academy should have given it to a newcomer in such a good performance. Happy about Thomas Hayden though. And how Farenheit 9/11 didn't get for docu is absurd.
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
Yes, but PASSION is indeed a foreign language film.
Stupid Aramaians didn't even submit a film.

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Old 01-25-05 | 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimfarrow
Yes, but PASSION is indeed a foreign language film.
Precisely, and it may have been nominated in the category if there were actually any people alive that speak Aramaic.
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I have a feeling "Sideways" may turn out to be this year's "Annie Hall." Woody Allen's film received just five Oscar noms. All other Best Picture nominees in 1977 received more. The Academy went for the dialogue-and-character-driven "Annie Hall" over the more ambitiously-mounted spectacles of "Star Wars," "The Turning Point" and Fred Zinneman's brilliant "Julia." Even "The Goodbye Girl" received more nominations than "Annie Hall." But, in the end, the Academy chose "Annie" for Best Picture, Actress, Director and Screenplay. I can see "Sideways," which is a beloved film by many in Hollywood, getting Best Picture, Director (yes, over Scorsese), Screenplay and one of the two Supporting categories it's nominated in. I can even see it getting just three Oscars: Picture, Supporting, Screenplay, with Scorsese still getting his Lifetime Acheivement Directing Oscar. Hell, they only gave "Rocky" three Oscars in '76. I have a feeling that the lovable, character-rich "Sideways" will win the hearts of the Academy and overcome the machine-like glossiness of the emotionally staid "The Aviator" (which is a film to admire more than love), the been-there-seen-that familiarity of "Million Dollar Baby," the ethereal emotionalism of "Finding Neverland" (although I do admit I wouldn't be surprised to see it pull off the upset), or the unremarkable, made-for-tv-like "Ray." "The Aviator" is gonna go the way of other much-nominated big spectacles that racked up nominations, but not many wins: "Reds," "Bugsy" and "The Color Purple."
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I'm not sure where to start about how utterly wrong you are. Where in the world did you get your misinformation?!

The ACTUALl ist:

http://www.oscars.org/press/pressrel.../04.11.04.html

Eleven Films to Compete for Animated Feature Oscar®

The eligible films are:

"Clifford’s Really Big Movie"
"Disney’s Teacher’s Pet"
"Ghost in the Shell 2: Innocence"
"Home on the Range"
"The Incredibles"
"The Legend of Buddha"
"The Polar Express"
"Shrek 2"
"Shark Tale"
"Sky Blue"
"The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie"
Even if there is that many, the Academy can only allow 3 nominations since there where less than 16 selections. There was only 11 animated films released this year, that means only 3 will be nominated.

A couple years ago, there were 5 nominations picked because there was more than 16 releases. Read the web site you posted.
Old 01-25-05 | 07:16 PM
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This is one of those like a couple of years ago when John Voight got a nom for playing Howard Cosell for like 5 minutes in Ali. Both were fine performances, but not a lot there. David Carradine MADE Kill Bill 2. I'll never look at Clacrk Kent the same way again.
Don't even get me started on that bullshit. The best supporting performance that year belonged to Brian Cox in L.I.E. Shame on the Academy for shunning Unrated/NC-17 films.

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As far as Jamie Foxx in that catagory, his performance in Collateral was very good, BUT... How on earth is it a supporting performance? The movie is about a cab driver who picks up a hitman, not a movie about a hit man. Who is he supporting? Since when does second-billed mean supporting? When you think about it, he has probably double or triple the screen time of Best Actress nominee Kate Winslet.
Already mentioned, but needs to be said again :Take the same year as Jon Voight in Ali. Ethan Hawke or whatever the hell his name is, gets nominated for Supporting while in more of the film than Washington himself. They are dong the same damn thing with Foxx.

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Old 01-25-05 | 07:30 PM
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'Sideways' - not worth an Oscar nomination. It was the whole 'Lost in Translation' fever. The Academy is pressured to pick small films. This year they should have picked 'Eternal Sunshine' instead of 'Sideways'.

Oh yeah Check this out bitches!!

In a thread titled "Fahrenheit 9/11- Out of running for Oscar consideration?"

Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt on 11/05
What do you think? I think it pretty much lost all chances of consideration when America basically said "We're not buying it".
http://www.dvdtalk.com/forum/showthr...ght=fahrenheit


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