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Old 10-18-12 | 12:00 PM
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The originals were so over the top for their time that they could not help being funny -- especially ED2 -- although I think they benefited from the humor as well as the genius that is Bruce Campbell and his portrayal as Ash. I doubt that lightning could strike twice so that's probably why the remake is more serious in tone as shown in the trailer.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:11 PM
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Originally Posted by wishbone
The originals were so over the top for their time that they could not help being funny -- especially ED2 -- although I think they benefited from the humor as well as the genius that is Bruce Campbell and his portrayal as Ash. I doubt that lightning could strike twice so that's probably why the remake is more serious in tone as shown in the trailer.
Well I think ED2 purposefully put in some humor in there. It's a combo. Done very well. Also...I still need to get that BD.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
It looks unremittingly dark, evil, and sadistic.

I'd say the humor will be minimal, at best.
Thanks for the response. So it basically changes the Evil Dead legacy? Who knows it may work but I will have to adjust to it being a remake in name only. Well since the first Evil Dead wasnt the humorous and awesome film the later ones became then I guess it makes sense but isnt my personal preference.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:24 PM
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Remake in name only? Seems like it's taking shit tons more than that from ED.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
See for me AoD is the weakest because I didn't feel like my hero was in danger most of the time. ED2 for me is perfect. Also Raimi intended to do a very serious film to begin with on ED didn't he? It didn't really end up that way cuz of budget and whatever...the concept is interesting...and going serious w/ it is kind of exciting for me. And the trailer really gives me a lot of what I would want. Soooooo....it's pretty cool to me.

Also here's another bootleg of it:

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Vb7xy1g_3Xs" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
I get that totally. I don't need my heroes in danger to make it enjoyable but I absolutely understand why others prefer the drama and risk of it. I actually get annoyed when heroes in certain stories get hurt making stupid out of character mistakes or have to overcome forced obstacles just for drama or storytelling sake. (unlimited ammo for hours then all of a sudden when the story calls for it runs out and gets hurt trying to get cover or in hand to hand) If it happens organically it is one thing, but most times you can hear the writer “oh must adhere to Storytelling 101 and have conflict here for my hero to overcome” For certain movies, I just want to the hero to kick ass, make jokes and take names. Ash to me is an overconfident snarky ass kicker who will take out anything in his way.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:33 PM
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ED was always straight horror. It's obvious ED2 was done with tongue planted firmly in cheeck. All the interviews and commentaries acknowledge this. AoD was an adventure-comedy with minor horror flourishes. All three films are great but totally different from one another despite certain carryover elements (mainly Ash and the Necronomicon).

Despite the lack of Ash, this is clearly a remake of ED and ED2, through the more serious lense of ED.

Originally Posted by Unclejosh
Ash to me is an overconfident snarky ass kicker who will take out anything in his way.
Except that Ash was never like that in ED. He was just another dead teenager. He didn't show any signs of potentially being snarky badass until the finale of ED2 (chainsaw to the hand notwithstanding). The Ash you remember and love existes soley in AoD.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
Remake in name only? Seems like it's taking shit tons more than that from ED.
I meant the feel and spirit of what I personally enjoy about the Evil Dead series. It sounds like it is more of a straight horror film which is not what I want from an Evil Dead movie. I didnt clarify what I meant so I understand the confusion. To me personally it would be like remaking Big Trouble in Little China without the humor or awesomeness of Jack Burton. I never felt he was in danger for a moment in that movie and it rules. Remaking it with the same plot but as a straight action flick wouldnt work for me.
Old 10-18-12 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by RocShemp
ED was always straight horror. It's obvious ED2 was done with tongue planted firmly in cheeck. All the interviews and commentaries acknowledge this. AoD was an adventure-comedy with minor horror flourishes. All three films are great but totally different from one another despite certain carryover elements (mainly Ash and the Necronomicon).

Despite the lack of Ash, this is clearly a remake of ED and ED2, through the more serious lense of ED.



Except that Ash was never like that in ED. He was just another dead teenager. He didn't show any signs of potentially being snarky badass until the finale of ED2 (chainsaw to the hand notwithstanding). The Ash you remember and love existes soley in AoD.
Agreed. I also saw them in reverse order so that probably has something to do with it. I think they got exponetially better as the series went on, but I know many feel the opposite. Different strokes...
Old 10-18-12 | 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Maybe the tree will anally rape the woman to the point that a branch comes out of her mouth.

Gotta up the stakes.
Nicely done!
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Originally Posted by Unclejosh
I meant the feel and spirit of what I personally enjoy about the Evil Dead series. It sounds like it is more of a straight horror film which is not what I want from an Evil Dead movie. I didnt clarify what I meant so I understand the confusion. To me personally it would be like remaking Big Trouble in Little China without the humor or awesomeness of Jack Burton. I never felt he was in danger for a moment in that movie and it rules. Remaking it with the same plot but as a straight action flick wouldnt work for me.
Yeah but the difference is that BTILC had it's intent w/ it's tone. ED got it accidentally and later carried it as a badge. ED1 wasn't meant to be like the others. It was developed as a straight horror film.
Old 10-18-12 | 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC
Yeah but the difference is that BTILC had it's intent w/ it's tone. ED got it accidentally and later carried it as a badge. ED1 wasn't meant to be like the others. It was developed as a straight horror film.
I understand that and acknowledged earlier the first one wasnt what the series turned into. I basically consider the first one almost a student film that didn't work in many ways but that they perfected by changing the tone in the later films. So while I know that the original Evil Dead film is a horror film, when I think of "Evil Dead" it is more of the latter and in my opinion far superior movies.

I hope it's an awesome film, I just wish instead of remaking what I feel is an inferior product as a horror film, they had continued in the direction of the later films. I hope I am proven wrong but considering my dislike of the first Evil Dead and Drag Me to Hell, I dont have high hopes for a Raimi horror film.
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Re: Evil Dead being REMADE....by Sam Raimi

This'll sound dickish cuz it's text but when you say Raimi Horror film you don't mean this film right? Cuz Raimi's not directing it.
Old 10-18-12 | 03:04 PM
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I know he isn't actually directing but it is his property, he is producing and you can bet nothing will happen without his approval. So regardless of who directs it, it is still a Raimi product. At the end of the day it is his responsibilty, he is the boss. They got some nobody newbie director who may have his own style and make a fantastic movie all that but at the end of the day, the producers have to approve it.

The Rock is as much a Bruckheimer film as it is a Bay one so if I called it a Bruckheimer action film would you disagree with that statement?
Old 10-21-12 | 04:00 PM
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in response...yeah. It is a Bruckheimer film cuz it wouldn't exist without him...but it's much more of a Bay film than a Bruckheimer.

also:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/83Ip0h7Zo3w" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Now I remember who the director is. He did this little short and Raimi quickly went after him to develop something. And...looking at what's happened since that time...I guess it was ED. Great start for a new guy into the industry. Hopefully ED rocks as well as it looks cuz I'd love to be wowed by the modern horror genre in my time. It's very rare for me.

the short:
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/-dadPWhEhVk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

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Old 10-21-12 | 06:59 PM
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Re: Evil Dead being REMADE....by Sam Raimi

Is it just me or is Bruce Campbell starting to look like Mitt Romney?
Old 10-21-12 | 07:15 PM
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I think it's just you. The head shape is kind of there but...the rest is all Bruce.
Old 10-21-12 | 09:12 PM
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Re: Evil Dead being REMADE....by Sam Raimi

Originally Posted by Josh-da-man
Is it just me or is Bruce Campbell starting to look like Mitt Romney?
I can kind of see that.
Old 10-21-12 | 09:36 PM
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Fuck yeah, now I'm actually excited. Ataque de Panico! was the bomb, yo! And it only cost $300 to make. Fede is from Uruguay. Raimi quickly scooped him up. The Evil Dead remake is also budgeted at 14 million, so dude came up.
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Originally Posted by KillerCannibal
Pretty sure, or positive? Because I don't recall the Evil Dead sounding like Juno, which is, again, a major concern of mine. I can already imagine the excessive snark, the pop culture references none of these kids would probably know, the cutesy phrases shared amongst friends and lovers that make me want to punch them... Cody has a knack for writing people who only sound like "cool" caricatures, not actual people.

But I'll just sit here quietly until it arrives and hope she learned her lesson from the hate Juno received. I'm talking fanboy internet hate, not the lavish praise heaped upon it by 'Merica and Oscar cronies.
I'm pretty positive. Bruce Campbell's acting was beyond trerrible in the original so much so to the point that he says he was embarrased by it in the dvd commentary (can't remember which disc it's on as there are about a million different versions out there) - the writing was beyond laughable as well in most spots but never distractingly so.....the gore and shock value always outweighed anything else bad. I'm sure it will be the same here.

And remember Evil Dead = serious and Evil Dead II = comedy
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Why is that? I'm only asking because I pretty sure the orginial was full of craptastic dialouge.
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Old 10-24-12 | 12:29 PM
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What's with all the fuckin' bass in modern trailers today?
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Originally Posted by Trevor
That trailer rocked.
If it wasn't named Evil Dead...........I'd agree with you.
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I fucking love that trailer. A serious ED. How exciting.


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