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Old 07-17-03 | 06:45 PM
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I love the original, but I will still see this one. It doesn't look that bad. I read somewhere that it kind of picks up where the original ends, but I could be wrong.
Old 07-17-03 | 10:38 PM
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The new one looks like it's aimed more at the I KNOW WHAT YOU DID LAST SUMMER and JEEPERS CREEPERS crowd.

Horror Movies in general are always marketed to that crowd. That is the crowd that goes to see them. Granted those specific movies werent very good, but the fact is some kind of money has to be made. So for all the classic, great horror movies to come out, there has to be those that may not be the best, but keep the genre alive. I still to this day do not get the idea of "this type" of horror movie vs. "that type" of horror movie.
Old 07-18-03 | 01:12 AM
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I think it looks really creepy but I was no fan of
the original.

I think it's good that they're not doing some sort of
shot-for-shot remake like the PSYCHO disaster.

A few things should always be changed in remakes....IMO.
Old 07-18-03 | 04:37 AM
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I dump on it because it's an unnecessary remake.

My opinion is based on the trailer, and you say that it looks good because of the trailer. Both of our opinions are based on the same thing, so why do the negative opinions make you puke and not your own? You haven't seen it either.

I've never eaten a spoonful of dogshit, but I don't have to to know I wouldn't like it.

Honk!
It's not the same to say - "it looks like it might be good" and "what a piece of crap". It might suck, it might be good - lots of people on this forum have far too much to say about movies they haven't seen. The trailer is just supposed to make you wanna see the film - it isn't the film. Based on a trailer all you can really say is either "looks like it could be good - I'll probably see it" or "looks like it could be sucky - I won't see it." That's all I meant - I don't wanna argue about it though, so go ahead and get the last word in if you must... I'm too tired to take on the world.
Old 07-18-03 | 07:34 AM
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Who cares, people need to stop bashing a movie which they havent even seen yet!!!!! It just makes you sound ignorant and stubborn. The original wasnt even anything special. If anything, this could be a HUGE improvement. The score sounds awesome too. I really cant wait for this and will definatly be seeing this in theaters.
Old 07-18-03 | 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by GmoneyOwnsYou
The original wasnt even anything special. If anything, this could be a HUGE improvement. [/B]
Strongly disagree. I think the first one is a horror classic. I'll go see the remake, though. Let's just hope it gets an "R" rating.
Old 07-18-03 | 08:19 AM
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Wasnt something said that this wasnt a remake and was more of a prequel to the first one?

i could have sworn i read something about it online somewhere... if i find the link ill post it in here...
Old 07-18-03 | 12:31 PM
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There's no question it's horror heresy, but goldang it, hang me on a meat hook for my sins, because I honestly think the trailer looks (and sounds) fan-freakin-tastic. But trailers and movies are rarely created equal.

Oh, and just to state my allegiance: My two favorite movies are Tobe Hooper's The Texas Chain Saw Massacre and Frank Capra's It's a Wonderful Life.

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Old 07-18-03 | 01:34 PM
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I'd like to ask the advocates here what EXACTLY it is about this trailer that's so great?
Old 07-18-03 | 02:27 PM
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Originally posted by Jepthah
I'd like to ask the advocates here what EXACTLY it is about this trailer that's so great?
For one, the cinematography looks to be heads and shoulders above movies like Jeepers Creepers or Wrong Turn.

And if you ask me, it seems to be pretty damn atmospheric, as well (thanks to the cinematography, I suppose).

What looks so bad about it? And yeah, something besides its conception being inherently wrong would be a reasonable argument.

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Old 07-18-03 | 04:56 PM
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For one, the cinematography looks to be heads and shoulders above movies like Jeepers Creepers or Wrong Turn.
Michael Bay's films have excellent cinematography too. But I don't like them much. It's no guarantee of anything.

But further on the subject of cinematography: the original Saw was great in that aspect also (actually shot by the same Daniel Pearl); but there, it was gritty, grainy, raw, but no less striking and colorful. It lent a 'realistic' feel to the film which is completely gone here. The clips make that abundantly clear.

And if you ask me, it seems to be pretty damn atmospheric, as well (thanks to the cinematography, I suppose).
Yeah, thanks in no small part to sound cues from the original Saw score which may actually be completely absent from the new film. Never forget that in film advertising they can sell you what they DON'T have, based on trickery.

As far as acting, Jessica Biel will NOT be able to match Marilyn Burns's performance for intensity and believability (listen to the commentary on the Saw DVD to learn why, besides her innate talent), I can promise you that. And that's not even factoring in the other actors in the Family, who were unique and important in adding to the atmosphere of panic and lunacy.
Old 07-18-03 | 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by Jepthah
1) Michael Bay's films have excellent cinematography too. But I don't like them much. It's no guarantee of anything.

2) But further on the subject of cinematography: the original Saw was great in that aspect also (actually shot by the same Daniel Pearl); but there, it was gritty, grainy, raw, but no less striking and colorful. It lent a 'realistic' feel to the film which is completely gone here. The clips make that abundantly clear.

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3) Yeah, thanks in no small part to sound cues from the original Saw score which may actually be completely absent from the new film. Never forget that in film advertising they can sell you what they DON'T have, based on trickery.

4) As far as acting, Jessica Biel will NOT be able to match Marilyn Burns's performance for intensity and believability (listen to the commentary on the Saw DVD to learn why, besides her innate talent), I can promise you that. And that's not even factoring in the other actors in the Family, who were unique and important in adding to the atmosphere of panic and lunacy.
1) I never said it was going to clinch anything. I said it was one thing I found attractive about the trailer.

2) So the movie is going to stink because it ditches the original gritty feel? I think that saying the crisp & pristine images ruin the film (at this point, before you've seen the film in its entirity) is entirely too rash.

3) Or they may be included.

4) Yeah, I'm not a huge fan of Jessica, either. But when some aspects of the film are solid and well done, others can sometimes suffer without sinking the film as a whole.

I'm not arguing that the new film is going to be a horror classic or that it will be better than the original. In fact, I think it is highly doubtful the film will achieve either of those accomplishments.

This does not mean, however, that I'm going to write it off at this point in time. I liked the trailer. That's all.
Old 07-18-03 | 09:31 PM
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I think the trailer looks awesome! The movie may end up being horrible, though I hope not, but this is the best trailer I've seen in awhile. The music, the heart beats, and the snap shots were great. I was really quite indifferent to this movie. i have seen the original, and was not impressed, so a remake didn't get me too excited, until I saw the trailer. Now I will probably go see it, unless it gets completely trashed by the "trust worthy" reviews (Not Ebert).
Old 07-19-03 | 11:40 AM
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It seems to me that the director and producer have forgotten what made the original just so damn good. The original was dirty, brutual and unpolished. This remake lacks those things. It seems pretty, clean and very polished. Just not near as interesting, in my humble opinion.
Old 07-19-03 | 01:14 PM
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I still think lombasting the movie on its imagery before you see how it works for the entire film is way too drastic.
Old 07-19-03 | 05:55 PM
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I think this looks decent. Yes, it doesn't have the gritty documentary-esque look of the original... and I'm glad! Don't get me wrong, I love it in the original... but this is the remake. I'm happy they're not doing a point-by-point clone of the original (a la Psycho). At least this means there MAY be something new for me to enjoy rather than a simple rehash. As for the pointlessness of the remake, I'd consider things like TCM: The Next Generation to be a remake (posing as a sequel), so why is this different? At least this looks more watchable than that one was. There have been dozens of movies that were practically remakes anyway (Wrong Turn, etc.) and if I enjoyed those I might as well give this a chance.

My only gripe about this: that they set this in 1973. It would be okay if they made it accurate, but none of those people looked like they stepped out of 1973. They all look completely 2003. Sure, they're in that retro type clothing, but it's nothing like you see in movies/photos from that era. If they wanted people to look modernly stylish they should've just set it in the present.
Old 07-19-03 | 08:36 PM
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Does anyone know the name of the song in the beggining of the trailer?
Old 07-19-03 | 10:14 PM
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"This Mortal Coil"= Song to the Siren

Great song.
Old 07-21-03 | 11:53 AM
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Caught the trailer before Bad Boys II.. Cool thing was the trailer starts off with the date and then "Travis County, Texas".... Well I was in Travis County (Austin) watching it.. Kind of cool
Old 07-21-03 | 03:22 PM
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I think its pretty safe to say a movie is gonna be crap judging by its trailer. If you have no interest in seeing it after viewing the trailer then its crap to you. Its pretty simple, trailers are made for people to make judgements on the films.
Old 07-23-03 | 01:07 PM
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Saw this on Bad Boys 2 this weekend and it looks surprisingly good.

No surprise as to most people respsonses.. if the same trailer was shown and it was called something like "Gay Cowboys Eating Pudding Massacre" people here would be spilling jism in thier shorts.

Does anybody know the chorus/song in the beginning of the trailer? That same vocal is used in 2 totally different trance songs I really like and am wondering where it's origins are?
Old 07-23-03 | 02:19 PM
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"This Mortal Coil"= Song to the Siren

Great song.
Old 07-23-03 | 02:32 PM
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Yeah I saw that after my post.. I'm just wondering now what's the original use of the vocals..
Old 07-23-03 | 06:14 PM
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I'm sorry, but the original was no masterpiece. About a million miles away from it. It was a scary film that because a cult classic, but the word masterpiece is thrown around too easily nowadays.
Old 07-23-03 | 10:07 PM
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How about Jessica Biel running around in a tank top?
yeah it gets bonus points for that.

as for the film over all.. When I first heard it was going to be made I thought it would be a dog... errr but at least after seeing the trailer it looks like it might be pretty good for a B grade-ish film..

Well at least the trailer made me want to see it a bit more and that is all a trailer is for really.. Will the film be "great"? Odds are no, but I like horror films over all, plus I have the skill of an open mind..

as in I can ignore the part of me that is screaming "Make something new you bastards!" and see this film (will wait for DVD, I'm sure) as just a new film.. I mean it has to be as good as Jeeper Creepers and Wrong Turn, right? Those are NOT classic at all but heck I still liked them on some level.. Not every film can be great ya know.

Plus remember, the making of film "A" is not the reason film "B" was NOT made.. I think people dog pile on films before they come out being many feel that some other better film should have been made.. Errrrr ok sure but for all we know it was this or Titanic 2: Curse of the Zombie Deathship.. Staring Bob Goldthwait, Pauly Shore and Howie Mandel as cross dressing zombies after gold or something.. See, Chainsaw remake seems a little less bad now huh?

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