The Official Vinegar Syndrome Thread
04-28-25 | 06:08 PM
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Jade is apparently one of the other titles being teased.
04-28-25 | 07:17 PM
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I'm hoping for The Relic and feel like I'm going to be disappointed.😔
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04-28-25 | 07:22 PM
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If not part of the Halfway event, maybe The Relic will show up in November instead. I’m sure it isn’t too far away in any event.
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04-29-25 | 10:45 AM
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04-29-25 | 01:05 PM
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I seriously wonder if there is really that much demand for these old Big Studio sex thrillers like SLIVER and JADE. These are films that wouldn’t be out of place in Mill Creek multipacks at this point. I guess now that the horror / sci-fi well is running dry, they’re moving on to erotic thrillers, but there’s an awful lot of slow and pretentious crap in that genre that I just can’t see people being fooled into forking over for super-deluxe box sets or whatever.
04-29-25 | 01:16 PM
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I seriously wonder if there is really that much demand for these old Big Studio sex thrillers like SLIVER and JADE. These are films that wouldn’t be out of place in Mill Creek multipacks at this point. I guess now that the horror / sci-fi well is running dry, they’re moving on to erotic thrillers, but there’s an awful lot of slow and pretentious crap in that genre that I just can’t see people being fooled into forking over for super-deluxe box sets or whatever.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
04-29-25 | 03:06 PM
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here have been Halfway to Black Friday sales before, but there has never been a Halfway sale like Halfway to Black Friday 2025, which kicks off its Flash Pre-Order in just under two days on Thursday, May 1st, at exactly 12:01 PM EDT and runs through 11:59 PM EDT on Monday, May 5th!
The Halfway to Black Friday Flash Pre-Order is your first chance to see and pre-order some of our new releases at the best possible prices. Following this special Flash Pre-Order event, prices will rise back to normal.
Why is this Halfway Sale so epic? Well, it's our biggest, best, and most ambitious Halfway lineup ever, featuring 10 VS and VS Sub-Label releases!
Come this Thursday at 12:01 PM EDT:
So, if you want to secure your copies of the entire May slate, including all four VS releases, our latest VSU, VSA, VSL, duo of Cinématographes, and even the next Blu-ray from Degausser Video (ten releases in total), you can do so at the best possible price by purchasing the Absolutely Everything Flash Pre-Order Package.
Or, if you're a genre-film diehard, we've created a special All VS Flash Pre-Order bundle of genre cinema only, featuring all four May VS releases, plus our next VSU, VSA, and VSL!
And for those who prefer mystery, our popular Secret VS Releases pre-order package will be back again (with clues, of course).
Reminder: customers who partake in this Flash Pre-Order event can add products to their Flash Pre-Order package for FREE once the big Halfway to Black Friday sale goes live on Friday, May 23rd. Flash Pre-Order customers will also experience quicker ship times, as Halfway to Black Friday orders that contain a Flash Pre-Order item will ship out after our Subscribers following the sale.
So strap in and buckle up for another amazing assortment of exploitation, action, horror, and wild cult cinema from Vinegar Syndrome this Thursday at 12:01 PM EDT as we commence the Halfway to Black Friday Flash Pre-Order Weekend!
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Come this Thursday at 12:01 PM EDT:
- We’ll unveil our latest VS Ultra of a beloved 80s supernatural action/comedy/horror blockbuster, which is making its world UHD debut in its most extras-packed home video edition ever.
- Plus, half of our fabulous four-film May VS 'proper' lineup will be revealed. The two titles to be announced on Thursday will both be world UHD debuts, and both will be available in their commonly seen theatrical versions as well as disc premieres of each of their alternate, filmmaker-preferred versions. In fact, for one of these releases, the alternate version (and trust us, this one is a shock) hasn’t been seen by an audience in nearly 30 years!
- Meanwhile, we'll be revealing one of our two May Cinématographe releases, which brings a long-overlooked film from one of American cinema's most iconic filmmakers to Blu-ray for the first time!
- And, over at our sister site, Mélusine, we'll be offering our latest UHD release. It features a brand new restoration of a 1970s masterpiece presented in two very different cuts, one of which has never before been available on video.
So, if you want to secure your copies of the entire May slate, including all four VS releases, our latest VSU, VSA, VSL, duo of Cinématographes, and even the next Blu-ray from Degausser Video (ten releases in total), you can do so at the best possible price by purchasing the Absolutely Everything Flash Pre-Order Package.
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And for those who prefer mystery, our popular Secret VS Releases pre-order package will be back again (with clues, of course).
Reminder: customers who partake in this Flash Pre-Order event can add products to their Flash Pre-Order package for FREE once the big Halfway to Black Friday sale goes live on Friday, May 23rd. Flash Pre-Order customers will also experience quicker ship times, as Halfway to Black Friday orders that contain a Flash Pre-Order item will ship out after our Subscribers following the sale.
So strap in and buckle up for another amazing assortment of exploitation, action, horror, and wild cult cinema from Vinegar Syndrome this Thursday at 12:01 PM EDT as we commence the Halfway to Black Friday Flash Pre-Order Weekend!
04-29-25 | 03:32 PM
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Are they cult favorites or have people just forgotten how bad they were received when they were released? I saw both Sliver and Jade in the theaters when they were released and we thought they were more funny than serious...which is not what filmmakers wanted.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
But instead, VS gets them (or at least SLIVER so far) and tarts them up (heh-heh) with all sorts of extras and overblown packaging that inevitably convinces a fresh wave of suckers that these are overlooked cult favorites, which they’re decidedly not. There is literally no reputation behind any of these films except what they try to create in retrospect to create gainful continued employment for the ‘supplementarian’ industry.
04-30-25 | 11:27 AM
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Are they cult favorites or have people just forgotten how bad they were received when they were released? I saw both Sliver and Jade in the theaters when they were released and we thought they were more funny than serious...which is not what filmmakers wanted.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
Sliver feels like a so-so movie created to cash in on Sharon Stone's sex appeal at the time.
Neither fall into the so bad they're good category either. Sometimes a train wreck of a movie enters the public consciousness like Congo has, but there two are just not memorable. Not terrible, just forgettable.
04-30-25 | 01:33 PM
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I actually like Jade and I’m excited to see the directors cut. Friedkin is one of my favorites though.
I’m not all that excited about the Golden Child though. I was planning on getting all the VSU’s after I get Six String Samurai on a massive discount, but I might just admit defeat.
I’m not all that excited about the Golden Child though. I was planning on getting all the VSU’s after I get Six String Samurai on a massive discount, but I might just admit defeat.
04-30-25 | 01:50 PM
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Are they cult favorites or have people just forgotten how bad they were received when they were released? I saw both Sliver and Jade in the theaters when they were released and we thought they were more funny than serious...which is not what filmmakers wanted.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
If they are cult favorites, I never hear or see them mentioned on and videos or lists for that sort of thing.
I have no intention of buying either Sliver or Jade, but an argument in their favor might be that both movies (as well as other erotic thrillers from the same post-Basic Instinct period) are nostalgia items from a very peculiar moment in time when major Hollywood studios spent a lot of money to churn out high-gloss versions of what amounted to lowbrow exploitation trash. Movies like these (and Whispers in the Dark, Final Analysis, etc.) evolved directly from the kind of sleazy skin-flicks that have long been the bread and butter for the Vinegar Syndrome audience.
Congo, on the other hand... I have no defense for that one.
04-30-25 | 02:03 PM
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I’ve seen some speculation that one Cinematographe title might be CATCH-22, because of the teaser artwork of what appears to be a hairy chest, similar to the original poster.
Not much of a fan of GOLDEN CHILD, but it does indeed seem to be the VS Ultra title. I’d be curious to view some bonus features on a film like that, though, but only enough to maybe get it in a future sale, perhaps in a standard edition, so I could flip it.
Not much of a fan of GOLDEN CHILD, but it does indeed seem to be the VS Ultra title. I’d be curious to view some bonus features on a film like that, though, but only enough to maybe get it in a future sale, perhaps in a standard edition, so I could flip it.
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04-30-25 | 02:23 PM
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Vinegar Syndrome has a loooooooong history of hyping up some pretty bad-to-mediocre films as "forgotten gems" though.
It's the unheard-of films that ARE "forgotten gems" (Deadline has entered the chat) that keep me coming back, and if I buy into the hype and get a great restoration of an absolute stinker of a movie every now and then, I can let it slide.
It's the unheard-of films that ARE "forgotten gems" (Deadline has entered the chat) that keep me coming back, and if I buy into the hype and get a great restoration of an absolute stinker of a movie every now and then, I can let it slide.
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04-30-25 | 02:32 PM
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I think Vinegar Syndrome had enough success with Showgirls (a genuine cult favorite that was treated terribly during its original release) and is trying to see if they can strike gold again from that mine.
I have no intention of buying either Sliver or Jade, but an argument in their favor might be that both movies (as well as other erotic thrillers from the same post-Basic Instinct period) are nostalgia items from a very peculiar moment in time when major Hollywood studios spent a lot of money to churn out high-gloss versions of what amounted to lowbrow exploitation trash. Movies like these (and Whispers in the Dark, Final Analysis, etc.) evolved directly from the kind of sleazy skin-flicks that have long been the bread and butter for the Vinegar Syndrome audience.
Congo, on the other hand... I have no defense for that one.
I have no intention of buying either Sliver or Jade, but an argument in their favor might be that both movies (as well as other erotic thrillers from the same post-Basic Instinct period) are nostalgia items from a very peculiar moment in time when major Hollywood studios spent a lot of money to churn out high-gloss versions of what amounted to lowbrow exploitation trash. Movies like these (and Whispers in the Dark, Final Analysis, etc.) evolved directly from the kind of sleazy skin-flicks that have long been the bread and butter for the Vinegar Syndrome audience.
Congo, on the other hand... I have no defense for that one.
Congo, which I watched for the first time before the VS release is just there. It is not a "so bad it is good" movie but more of a "all this talent and money on the screen and this is what came out" movie. We had so much bullshit product of it forced on us at the music store and nobody, I mean NOBODY, bought any of it. I knew that movie was doomed when that happened and I never had the courage to go see it in the theater at the time.
I was working at a music store at the time Sliver was released, and I would put money down that the Various Artists soundtrack for that movie made more money than the movie itself. We sold a shit ton of it on CD and Cassette at the time. I still have my Promo copy on CD. It really is a good soundtrack.
All that being said, I am glad when any movie gets released physically nowadays and may find an audience or even become a new cult classic. I just know I am not buying it. Maybe some of these will become the Faster Pussycat! Kill! Kill! for the newer generations.
05-01-25 | 11:30 AM
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Known so far:
The Golden Child (UHD)
Dirty Work (UHD; includes the long-lost 'dirtier cut')
Swimming to Cambodia
And:
The Golden Child (UHD)
Dirty Work (UHD; includes the long-lost 'dirtier cut')
Swimming to Cambodia
And:
Well, we’ve still got a set of terrifying treats that’ll be perfect additions to your library with the world 4K UHD debuts of two horror gems, one a brooding and atmospheric masterpiece from the 70s, and the other a grim and gruesome early 90s classic by an auteur of the macabre. VS has newly and exclusively restored both for their stunning UHD debuts.
For the first time in VS Flash Pre-Order history, we’re delighted to offer you ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING! Not just our explicitly VS-named releases, but truly everything we have in store for the Halfway Sale, including our May Cinématographes and even the next Blu-ray release from Degausser Video, all packaged together in one comprehensive bundle.
We trust you’ve already explored the listings for our latest VSU, from director Michael Ritchie, of the off-the-wall crazy mix of fantasy, action, and even a bit of horror, in the Eddie Murphy classic, THE GOLDEN CHILD, restored in 4K and presented in beautiful Dolby Vision, with a heaping host of extras, but that’s only a tenth (!) of what this incredible package has to offer.
Also included is the 4K UHD and Blu-ray debut of director William Friedkin and writer Joe Eszterhas’ deliriously sleazy erotic thriller, JADE, newly and exclusively restored by VS for this release from its original negative and presented in both its extended director’s cut and its US theatrical version, both on 4K UHD.
Plus, it was a dirty job but someone had to do it, so we’re very proud to present one of the greatest cult comedies of the 90s with director Bob Saget and star/co-writer Norm Macdonald’s legendary DIRTY WORK, making its 4K UHD debut in not only its commonly seen theatrical version, but our brand new 4K restoration of the long lost, and much raunchier original “Dirtier Cut,” featuring loads of gags deemed too extreme when the film was first released, and all unseen for nearly 30 years!
Plus, we’re proud to present the Blu-ray debut of a landmark '90s indie, with our latest Cinématographe of director Jonathan Demme’s film of Spalding Gray’s SWIMMING TO CAMBODIA, newly restored in 4K from its original camera negative.
Hungry for more Cinématographe? This package will also secure our second surprise May Cinématographe release, which will offer a stunning, brand-new 4K restoration of a star-studded 80s classic on UHD for the first time!
And that is still only half of it, as this package will also secure your copies of both VS Secret Releases, the identities of which will remain shrouded in mystery until the Halfway Sale goes live on May 23rd. But we can guarantee that this set of surprises will offer nothing but nightmares with 4K UHD debuts of two horror classics, one from the 70s and one from the early 90s, both of which have been newly restored from their original negatives and come jam-packed with extras for their ultimate home video presentations.
Hungry for action? Our next VSA, which will offer a Hong Kong trilogy of ultra-stylized fights and vengeful mayhem, is also included in this package.
Our next VSL, included in this package, is also no slouch in the action department as it blends two iconic genres while headlining two equally iconic stars, as it hits Blu-ray for the first time, newly restored and totally uncut!
Finally, it was only reasonable to add the next release from Degausser Video to the mix and include it in this unbeatable package. Ready for late 80s SOV mayhem? You'll be chomping at the bit for this deliciously regional jaw dropper…
This massive package includes 10 releases:
We trust you’ve already explored the listings for our latest VSU, from director Michael Ritchie, of the off-the-wall crazy mix of fantasy, action, and even a bit of horror, in the Eddie Murphy classic, THE GOLDEN CHILD, restored in 4K and presented in beautiful Dolby Vision, with a heaping host of extras, but that’s only a tenth (!) of what this incredible package has to offer.
Also included is the 4K UHD and Blu-ray debut of director William Friedkin and writer Joe Eszterhas’ deliriously sleazy erotic thriller, JADE, newly and exclusively restored by VS for this release from its original negative and presented in both its extended director’s cut and its US theatrical version, both on 4K UHD.
Plus, it was a dirty job but someone had to do it, so we’re very proud to present one of the greatest cult comedies of the 90s with director Bob Saget and star/co-writer Norm Macdonald’s legendary DIRTY WORK, making its 4K UHD debut in not only its commonly seen theatrical version, but our brand new 4K restoration of the long lost, and much raunchier original “Dirtier Cut,” featuring loads of gags deemed too extreme when the film was first released, and all unseen for nearly 30 years!
Plus, we’re proud to present the Blu-ray debut of a landmark '90s indie, with our latest Cinématographe of director Jonathan Demme’s film of Spalding Gray’s SWIMMING TO CAMBODIA, newly restored in 4K from its original camera negative.
Hungry for more Cinématographe? This package will also secure our second surprise May Cinématographe release, which will offer a stunning, brand-new 4K restoration of a star-studded 80s classic on UHD for the first time!
And that is still only half of it, as this package will also secure your copies of both VS Secret Releases, the identities of which will remain shrouded in mystery until the Halfway Sale goes live on May 23rd. But we can guarantee that this set of surprises will offer nothing but nightmares with 4K UHD debuts of two horror classics, one from the 70s and one from the early 90s, both of which have been newly restored from their original negatives and come jam-packed with extras for their ultimate home video presentations.
Hungry for action? Our next VSA, which will offer a Hong Kong trilogy of ultra-stylized fights and vengeful mayhem, is also included in this package.
Our next VSL, included in this package, is also no slouch in the action department as it blends two iconic genres while headlining two equally iconic stars, as it hits Blu-ray for the first time, newly restored and totally uncut!
Finally, it was only reasonable to add the next release from Degausser Video to the mix and include it in this unbeatable package. Ready for late 80s SOV mayhem? You'll be chomping at the bit for this deliciously regional jaw dropper…
This massive package includes 10 releases:
- THE GOLDEN CHILD (VSU) - UHD/BD
- JADE - UHD/BD featuring both the Director’s & Theatrical cuts on UHD
- DIRTY WORK - UHD/BD featuring both the Theatrical & ‘Dirtier’ cuts on UHD
- SWIMMING TO CAMBODIA (Cinématographe) - BD
- 2x Secret Surprise VS Horror UHD/BD
- Surprise Cinématographe – UHD/BD
- Surprise VSA action trilogy - BD Set
- Surprise VSL - BD
- Surprise Degausser Video horror - BD
05-01-25 | 01:57 PM
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So I like Dirty Work a lot, but I already have the Olive Films release. But I watched the 7 minute video they uploaded talking about the work that they did to create the dirtier cut, including tracking down the film to recreate it in the best quality possible? And it includes a 63 minute documentary. It seems that they went above and beyond with this release so I had no problems hitting the order button.
05-01-25 | 05:07 PM
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Well, we’ve still got a set of terrifying treats that’ll be perfect additions to your library with the world 4K UHD debuts of two horror gems, one a brooding and atmospheric masterpiece from the 70s, and the other a grim and gruesome early 90s classic by an auteur of the macabre. VS has newly and exclusively restored both for their stunning UHD debuts.
I read that the 70s one could be "The Sentinel" from 1977. The early 1990s one might be The Dark Half from George Romero -- he's technically an auteur of the macabre, so why not.
05-01-25 | 07:30 PM
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Keen to see if the Hong Kong action trilogy is an actual trilogy (like the long overdue Moon Lee ANGEL trilogy perhaps?), and furthermore a complete trilogy (and not three films from a larger series), and not just three ‘genre’ movies grouped together as they did with their earlier MADE IN HONG KONG set (which was still a worthwhile set). And since they don’t say 70’s, 80’s, or 90’s, it could be anything, I suppose.
I'm also keeping my eye on the new AGFA SCARE FILM ARCHIVES. Nice that it’s once again a collection of the original films ‘as is’, with the mixtape (which I can take or leave) as an extra.
I'm also keeping my eye on the new AGFA SCARE FILM ARCHIVES. Nice that it’s once again a collection of the original films ‘as is’, with the mixtape (which I can take or leave) as an extra.
05-01-25 | 07:46 PM
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05-01-25 | 08:12 PM
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05-01-25 | 09:11 PM
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I'm very confused by all this "Halfway to Black Friday Flash Pre-Order Sale" business. I want to buy a couple titles VS recently released, such as Last Tango in Paris (I'm fine with the Standard release). Is that included in the sale, or not because it's no longer a pre-order?
The web site suggests that it's already been marked down from $49.99 MSRP to $36.99. Is that the Halfway to Black Friday Sale price, or will it go lower? I thought in previous VS sales I bought discs at 50% off.
The web site suggests that it's already been marked down from $49.99 MSRP to $36.99. Is that the Halfway to Black Friday Sale price, or will it go lower? I thought in previous VS sales I bought discs at 50% off.
05-01-25 | 10:22 PM
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Re: The Official Vinegar Syndrome Thread
Pre-ordered Jade (been waiting to see the Director's Cut which from what I can tell was only available on Amazon here in the States), Dirty Work and Golden Child.
05-01-25 | 11:13 PM
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So I like Dirty Work a lot, but I already have the Olive Films release. But I watched the 7 minute video they uploaded talking about the work that they did to create the dirtier cut, including tracking down the film to recreate it in the best quality possible? And it includes a 63 minute documentary. It seems that they went above and beyond with this release so I had no problems hitting the order button.
05-01-25 | 11:21 PM
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What’s happening now is the flash preorders for May’s new titles. That’ll run through May 5th.
The sale will be 50% off for titles that were released 6 months ago or longer. (I want to say it’s more than 6 months, so something from the Black Friday sale wouldn’t be half-price at the Halfway sale, but I could be misremembering.)
05-02-25 | 11:52 AM
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Whelp, I was right about the pricing for The Golden Child, MSRP of $70.00(!). Given that price point the pre-order discount is actually pretty solid for this film (I have no interest in becoming a VS member to get my discount down to 50%, and it sounds like new titles like this one will not be part of the halfway to BF sale coming up), I might need to pull the trigger on this one.
Now Beastmaster, that is a film that I can wait for the Halfway to BF sale to pick up (I have been dragging my heels on this one, but the next time it is $25 on VS site I should pounce on it).
ETA 1: In reading the blurb about The Golden Child on VS's site I see that the Director of The Golden Child also directed the Grindhouse type film classic Prime Cut. I did not know this cool piece of info.
ETA 2: Pre-ordered The Golden Child and it does look like it may eventually sell out on or around it's official release date which I thought might happen.
Now Beastmaster, that is a film that I can wait for the Halfway to BF sale to pick up (I have been dragging my heels on this one, but the next time it is $25 on VS site I should pounce on it).
ETA 1: In reading the blurb about The Golden Child on VS's site I see that the Director of The Golden Child also directed the Grindhouse type film classic Prime Cut. I did not know this cool piece of info.
ETA 2: Pre-ordered The Golden Child and it does look like it may eventually sell out on or around it's official release date which I thought might happen.
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