The Official Vinegar Syndrome Thread
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https://darkforcesuperstore.com/
The sets are easily identifiable by their ‘drive-in’ newspaper ad mats on the sleeves. They’re currently on edition #22. However, keep in mind that they seem to be limited runs in many cases, and go OOP at random, some faster than others. Plus, because these are the Code Red guys (or guy, now), copies will also be randomly ‘discovered’ in the corner of their warehouse and put back up for grabs, including at discount prices.
They can also be found on Amazon, Deep Discount, and other sites, but they’re more likely to be discounted in Dark Force’s own sales.
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Thanks I'll take a look at their website. Riddle of Fire was the movie announced for preorder today.
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...riddle-of-fire
https://vinegarsyndrome.com/collecti...riddle-of-fire
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I have to say I wasn’t overly stoked by the partner titles this month, which is probably good for my bank account even when they reduce them in future sales. Guess my age is showing when I don’t want to take risks on stuff just because some new(er) filmmakers need to feel validated with physical media special editions.
Even worse, AMITYVILLE CURSE? Again? And yet another compilation of YouTube videogame “documentaries”? Plus lots of fairly recent ‘genre’ fare that has already been on dvd and some of which is probably still on streaming. I’m starting to wonder if some of these partners are approaching the bottom – or perhaps a point of diminishing profits? – with some of this stuff but hey, if the temptation is reduced for me personally then I really shouldn’t complain (while literally complaining!
). I’m sure there are some hidden gems in the mix.
Even worse, AMITYVILLE CURSE? Again? And yet another compilation of YouTube videogame “documentaries”? Plus lots of fairly recent ‘genre’ fare that has already been on dvd and some of which is probably still on streaming. I’m starting to wonder if some of these partners are approaching the bottom – or perhaps a point of diminishing profits? – with some of this stuff but hey, if the temptation is reduced for me personally then I really shouldn’t complain (while literally complaining!
). I’m sure there are some hidden gems in the mix.
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All I know is that cover/movie poster art for The Beast And The Vixens is fucking awesome.
That site has some fantastic "what the fuck did I just watch" or "how the fuck did this get made" type flicks.
That site has some fantastic "what the fuck did I just watch" or "how the fuck did this get made" type flicks.
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Brian T (05-01-24)
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Speaking of which, the Toronto store put out their new releases last Thursday, the same day I had to go out of town for an extended visit elsewhere.
I was hoping I’d have a chance at the new INTERMISSION TIME set (with slip) when they put them out, but when I saw the new releases on their social media just as I was leaving the city, I knew I was screwed. As expected, they were long gone when I got to the store today, so I asked the owner if he was expecting any more , LE or standard, and he wasn’t sure. I said “oh well, I’ll find it sooner or later” and kept browsing. A minute later he comes out of the backroom and hands me a slipcovered copy, apparently his last one (I was tempted to ask for another for a friend out west, but didn’t push my luck). He’s done stuff like this for me and other customers before, which is pretty decent and keeps me spending money in the store on certain titles when I could logically wait for one of the VS web sales.
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I have to say I wasn’t overly stoked by the partner titles this month, which is probably good for my bank account even when they reduce them in future sales. Guess my age is showing when I don’t want to take risks on stuff just because some new(er) filmmakers need to feel validated with physical media special editions.
Even worse, AMITYVILLE CURSE? Again? And yet another compilation of YouTube videogame “documentaries”? Plus lots of fairly recent ‘genre’ fare that has already been on dvd and some of which is probably still on streaming. I’m starting to wonder if some of these partners are approaching the bottom – or perhaps a point of diminishing profits? – with some of this stuff but hey, if the temptation is reduced for me personally then I really shouldn’t complain (while literally complaining!
). I’m sure there are some hidden gems in the mix.
Even worse, AMITYVILLE CURSE? Again? And yet another compilation of YouTube videogame “documentaries”? Plus lots of fairly recent ‘genre’ fare that has already been on dvd and some of which is probably still on streaming. I’m starting to wonder if some of these partners are approaching the bottom – or perhaps a point of diminishing profits? – with some of this stuff but hey, if the temptation is reduced for me personally then I really shouldn’t complain (while literally complaining!
). I’m sure there are some hidden gems in the mix.
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I’m not particularly interested in Brooklyn ’45, but the Shudder partnership is interesting, and I hope it means we get a physical release of other titles that never got one, like A Wounded Fawn, a movie that I thought was genuinely great, even if I’m the only sucker who buys a copy
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It did, but the public library here gets a lot of the Film Movement DVDs, and they got SAMURAI WOLF some time last year so I watched it that way. I guess it must’ve gone OOP, though, as I see some higher prices on Amazon now. I’m assuming the VS Film Movement discs are the same versions only with slipcovers? Cool movies, btw, but I’m not a big collector of the genre.
I also noticed one of the other labels had a mainland China movie called STREETWISE from 2021, but as folks here know I tend to approach stuff from there with caution, and I’m not at all convinced by the promo copy. All the interesting ‘neo-noir’ they could source from Taiwan and they go with a mainland movie by a filmmaker who hasn’t done anything else before or since.
I also noticed one of the other labels had a mainland China movie called STREETWISE from 2021, but as folks here know I tend to approach stuff from there with caution, and I’m not at all convinced by the promo copy. All the interesting ‘neo-noir’ they could source from Taiwan and they go with a mainland movie by a filmmaker who hasn’t done anything else before or since.
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I was hoping I’d have a chance at the new INTERMISSION TIME set (with slip) when they put them out, but when I saw the new releases on their social media just as I was leaving the city, I knew I was screwed. As expected, they were long gone when I got to the store today, so I asked the owner if he was expecting any more , LE or standard, and he wasn’t sure. I said “oh well, I’ll find it sooner or later” and kept browsing. A minute later he comes out of the backroom and hands me a slipcovered copy, apparently his last one (I was tempted to ask for another for a friend out west, but didn’t push my luck). He’s done stuff like this for me and other customers before, which is pretty decent and keeps me spending money in the store on certain titles when I could logically wait for one of the VS web sales.
They really should have printed more than 1000 slips for that release. The ones with the slips are selling right now for $100 on eBay.
I got my non-slip version the other day but haven't watched it yet. I am usually pretty lucky on catching that kind of stuff but the that particular release sold out within an hour! Still blows my mind.
Maybe they will do a reprint of just the slip since it is so popular.
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Definitely pure luck! I don’t usually care about slipcovers one way or the other, but for some reason I have most of the AGFA titles with them (all bought during sales, too - go figure!) so I assumed I had at least a little time when this one went live, but I procrastinated for a few hours and lost out. I then figured Diabolik and/or Grindhouse Video might get a few slipcover versions based on what I’d read about VS’s distribution set-ups with them, but that turned out to be a no go. Seems like Diabolik might have had some available for, like, a few minutes, sold out, and deleted the listing (?).The store here became my final option before getting the standard edition (which would’ve been fine, since the artwork is the same anyway), so it was definitely just luck and timing that the owner was there when I popped in. Well, that and the knowledge that he sometimes surprises people with stuff from the storeroom on occasion if he can, so my fingers were crossed.
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While is was in there, I overheard his conversation with another customer about how he’s setting apart a section of the store’s basement — which currently houses their vinyl and VHS offerings — to start selling old movie posters. Apparently he connected with another customer who had a large collection of theatricals he wanted to sell, so the VS store will be putting them out on consignment. I asked him later if that was just for that guy’s collection, or would it be open to others, and he said he’d put out anything that might sell. So I told him about my own large-ish collection of 1980’s - early 00’s posters that have been more or less wasting space in my apartment(s) for decades and he said “send me a list!”

I’d imagine the U.S. stores might do the same thing already, so it might be worth looking into for folks here who live near them and have posters they don’t display anymore.
I must admit, the fact that I’m even writing here about video stores, in 2024, is pretty cool. It’s nice to know that ‘home video’ has now entered that realm shared by hipster record stores and indie bookshops, etc., similar places that many predicted wouldn’t survive the onslaught of technology (and many didn’t, of course). I do hope Toronto’s three stores carry on for at least a while. They’re my primary destinations when I go downtown these days. If I was more of an entrepreneurial spirit, I’d probably open one in my own less-trendy neck of the woods here, but I’m pretty sure I’d be out of business in no time.

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As yet unconfirmed, but there’s apparently a lot of smoke suggesting that Lifeline (Johnnie To; 1997) is the UHD VSA title that’ll be revealed as part of the Halfway sale.
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Who benefits from forced-scarcity and scalpers' prices? Yes, the company will 'sell out' - but logically they'd make more if they made more and sold more, but doesn't it come at the cost of irritating your actual customer base while enriching people who just want to line their own pockets? Do [these niche] companies really care so little about 'actual' fans that they'll take the easy-come-easy-go money of the resellers?
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Or, and here's a radical suggestion, how about Not?
Who benefits from forced-scarcity and scalpers' prices? Yes, the company will 'sell out' - but logically they'd make more if they made more and sold more, but doesn't it come at the cost of irritating your actual customer base while enriching people who just want to line their own pockets? Do [these niche] companies really care so little about 'actual' fans that they'll take the easy-come-easy-go money of the resellers?
Who benefits from forced-scarcity and scalpers' prices? Yes, the company will 'sell out' - but logically they'd make more if they made more and sold more, but doesn't it come at the cost of irritating your actual customer base while enriching people who just want to line their own pockets? Do [these niche] companies really care so little about 'actual' fans that they'll take the easy-come-easy-go money of the resellers?
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mystery titles at that ‘other forum’ but honestly, my brain simply gave up a few days back!
I’m guessing the LIFELINE probability came into it after that. How they can drag a guessing game on for hundreds and hundreds of posts is beyond me.LIFELINE would allow me to retire yet another old HK DVD (and possibly an earlier VCD). It’s not To’s best, but it’s a glossy (if episodic) big-budget action picture from an era that saw several Hong Kong filmmakers emulating the large-scale high-tech action thrillers being produced by the Hollywood studios in the 90’s (obviously, BACKDRAFT was a huge influence on this one). Some other top-tier efforts worthy of western releases (or re-releases) are PURPLE STORM, EXTREME CRISIS, THEFT UNDER THE SUN, and DOWNTOWN TORPEDOES (which only got a Warner Archive DVD-R release, sadly).
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I'm watching Riddle of Fire this morning and about 25 minutes into the movie. I decided on a rental first off Vudu. I'm loving it so far as it feels like a whimsical throwback movie centered on the kids and their adventure in the story.
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I love the look of it being shot on 16mm film. You'll have to ignore a few things that don't make sense and the kids never had to answer for their illegal behavior but it's a great little movie. If I don't buy it off the VS website I'll pickup the standard edition through Amazon.
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It might be worth viewing the Q&A I posted above if you seen the film. I know fest Q&As can run pretty dry, pretty quick, but RIDDLE director Weston Razooli is a fairly engaging participant for a change, and happily owns up to the many influences in the film. This film is so determinedly eccentric that I’ll be curious to see if he continues in that vein or if he blew all his ideas in this one.
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I watched some of the Q&A and the director mentioned part of his inspiration came from The Little Rascals. I really hope Riddle Of Fire gets seen by more people beyond just indie film lovers.
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The "Hey Its Intermission Time" standard bluray set is $21.98 on Amazon. That's about $6 cheaper than the price on the Vinegar Syndrome website.
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Lesson learned on that one. If you don't score the initial limited slip, wait it out for a better price on the regular edition. 
I got sucked into thinking the regular edition was possibly limited as well and ordered it on the same day it was released. Oh well.

I got sucked into thinking the regular edition was possibly limited as well and ordered it on the same day it was released. Oh well.
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I never thought it was a limited release but I don't have the money currently for a VS website order and have to shop for the best deal.
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Still, the Amazon price is decent for the amount of content.
Incidentally, Something Weird recently revived their YouTube account after six years, and uploaded a couple of the same S-VHS collections from whence the Intermission Time shorts came, each about two hours. SWV put out a lot of these back in the day, so presumably more are on the way. The two on YT so far have ‘safer’ content than some of the racier comps they released, so I’m assuming AGFA won’t be doing the entire library.
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I can't speak to Intermission Time's restocking specifically -- I saw plenty of discussion about the limited edition swiftly selling out but less about when the standard was restocked -- but the way things are currently worded on vinegarsyndrome.com sounds kosher to me.
I'm not sure we knew the '70s title will be a double feature:
But you still need to wait for the Sale to go live to learn the identity of our demented double bill of 70s horror classics along with the true identity of our UHD action epic. And...this might be the first time ever that we're just as excited for our next set of VSA's which include the world BD debut of our most requested VSA candidate since Champagne & Bullets along with our first ever VSA UHD of a film with firepower demanding the best possible viewing experience. We expect both of these titles to sell very quickly, especially the former...
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