I believe Cameron made most of the extras from T2: Ultimate Ed available via BDLive on the Skynet Ed.

One of the changes that isn't mentioned often, that really bugs me, ever since the SE, before the iris out to end credits in ANH, the shot is held longer and Princess Leia moves her hands and looks like she's about to grab her crotch. I was hoping it wouldn't be the case in this set.

There are many things that have always bothered me that I think should have been fixed, like the reversed shots of Boba Fett in Jabba's palace, and the looped "Boba Fett- Boba Fett" line by Solo, but those flaws remain, while other things that were fine were changed.

I wonder if the trailers are easter eggs. I haven't seen any posted.

Maybe if a major boycott of all things Star Wars was instigated before the holidays, Lucas would rethink his decision.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...o-1-dvd-238708

Star Wars finished third last week in sales...not sure what that translates to in number of copies sold (the article doesn't say), nor how it matches up to expectations.

Just to play devil's advocate, there were three SKU's, so it's possible sales of the OT and PT trilogy sets peeled a few sales off the big set's numbers.

Still, wonder if it's enough to make Lucas sit and up notice that he's not number one.

I just know in 2004, Star Wars Trilogy Boxset was #1 for the week it came out, and was #1 overall that year too as many Lucasfilm's publicists touted the numbers.

I agree we need more information, but a Star Wars Boxset should be #1 for the week it comes out, IMO.

Edit: Found an article from Sept 2004, and Star Wars Boxset Widescreen was #1 and Fullscreen Boxset was #2 that first weekend. I'm sure the BluRay did great numbers, but I'm still suprised it didn't take the #1 top spot.

Reading that article, it sounds like SW was #3 in overall DVD/BD sales. It's listed as #2 in dedicated BD sales for the week.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/top...k-ended-091811

According to this the SW Saga sold only around 40 units per 100 Blu-Ray or DVD units of Thor, while X-Men sold around 55 Blu-Ray or DVD units per Thor's 100.

The original trilogy set placed 14 and in comparison to every 100 Blu-Ray or DVD units of Thor sold, it only managed around 3.

The prequels didn't place in the top 20.

Also worth noting 61% of of total copies of Thor sold were on Blu-Ray and around 55% of all copies of X-Men were on Blu-Ray and X-Men was in its second week of sales.

If you ask me SW's debut on Blu-Ray was pretty sad.

http://www.homemediamagazine.com/top...k-ended-091811

For a straight Blu-Ray only comparison:

For every 100 Blu-Rays of Thor sold, 65 copies of the SW Saga were sold, 4 copies of the Original Trilogy and 1 of the Prequel trilogy.

I still contend that's a sad debut, especially since Thor was not universally beloved.

Despite all the hype, Star Wars is a catalog title, and a wee bit pricier than Thor. Savvy people will know this will be deeply discounted for the holidays, and others will wait to buy it as a christmas present.

Not a rationalization, mind you. Merely an observation.

Interesting figures. Of course, the "Star Wars" boxsets also came out on Friday, giving "Thor" a 3-day headstart in sales ...

Still interested to see a report on how many pre-orders were cancelled, and now perhaps how many units were purchased and subsequently returned.

This actually makes me feel alittle bit better since I boycotted the release. This should have sold better, and Lucasfilm will still make boatloads of money on this set, but I believe it is enough to show that there is some disatisfaction out there among the fans, since the 2004 DVD set was #1 the first week and setting records in 2004. This boxset clearly wont be doing that.

Will it lead to the restoration of the OOT? I still say no, but this is better news for fans like me.

This is not so much an indictment of Star Wars as it is of Blu-ray. Many people still just aren't all that into it, and feel that one (of the many) DVD releases is just fine.

Yeah- I've thought that if this doesn't sell like hotcakes, they'll take it as nobody wanting physical media anymore and they're waiting for it to be available as a download instead.

Well, I think next time they'll definitely sell Saga only sets, considering how abysmally the OT and PT only sets sold.

But considering that this was a box set that cost around $70-90 compared to the #1 and #2 movies that are what, $20-25? Third place isn't that bad in that sense.

Well, the LOTR: EEs were #1 on their release week and roughly the same price.

Likewise, Back to the Future was #2 its release week but had a 84 units sold per 100 units sold to that week's top seller: SEX AND THE CITY 2.

That same week ALIEN ANTHOLOGY released, roughly the same price as SW and with a much smaller fanbase and still managed 28 units per 100 units of S&tC2.

SW should have been #1 plain and simple with all the hype (another thing the LOTR films didn't really do for the Blu Ray release) surrounding it, but failed to deliver. I do honestly think the last minute backlash cost it the #1 spot.


I'll try and dig up the non-anamorphic OOT DVD sales to see how much demand there were for those.

Ok, last post here.

The original DVD release supposedly sold 2.5million copies first day. Someone correct me on that if you have a more accurate figure.

Two years later, the EXACT same discs with the crappy non-anamorphic copies of each unaltered film debuted at #5, #6, and #7 on the sales charts and sold by the end of the week around 685,000 copies combined. That would have put them behind the #1 disc that week THE WILD by about 100,000 copies.

The next week a combined total of around 300,000 copeis for all three.

Third week: 35,000 for ROTJ only. The other two dropped out of the top 30.

To me, that showed a demand for the OOT as a lot of people shelled out to buy duplicates of previously released discs just to get a laserdisc transfer as a bonus.

^ This.

That's why I bought the set. Sure the picture isn't great but it isn't all that bad either.

I remember when Attack of the Clones was beaten by Spiderman in 2002, as that was the first SW movie ever to be #2 overall for the year, and fans starting saying, "Well, we're #2 for the year, that's not bad!"

Star Wars is a such a popular series that spans generations of fans, no movie, DVD, Bluray should ever be #2.

Yeah, no one at LFL is going to the poor house, but they are sitting in the boardroom wondering why they didn't make boatloads more than they did.
I hate this, but I just know that the head shed there is telling itself that this "under performance" is due to the leaks that occurred leading up to the release and not the crapiness of the release itself.
They'll learn the wrong lesson from this.

They can't be that stupid...can they?

That is such a bad comparasion. You actually think Sex and the City 2 had the same type of sales as Thor? Those numbers just show how little Back to the Future and Aliens sold if it was beaten by Sex and the City 2. Without actual sales numbers it does not matter how many units sold per 100 of the # 1 title. Thor could have sold half a million while SEX and the City 2 could have been number 1 with 100,000. Same with LOTR. Just because it was #1 on it's debut week does not mean that it outsold Star Wars because it's debut was #3. That's like saying a #1 Box Office movie in January did better than a #3 July box office movie.

See, I think the bean-counters will understand why this didn't sell well, but Mr. Lucas has the ultimate decision and thats the final answer there. (Hence why the OOT was released in 2006, but in crappy transfers as probably that was Lucas's compromise.) I dont think this is a total OOT backlash, as there are other factors:

-The Boxset is still a hefty price if you only enjoy the OT movies, even Special Editions. The problem is the OT or PT boxsets don't include the extras, so you HAVE to buy the boxset to get the extras. I have one friend who has been on the fence all week, as he keeps telling me, "I just want those deleted scenes, but 90 bucks?" If Lucas put the extras with the OT boxset, I'm sure he would have picked it up for 40 bucks.

-I also think the NOOO change created a new type of backlash, for many fans who have tolerated the changes, now even they think that Lucas should just stop with the changes. Its like using a joke too many times, eventually people are going to stop laughing cause they heard it!

-I think the Bluray market isnt as large as the base of fans who bought the 2004 DVD's, and I said earlier that I am suprised Lucasfilm didn't wait longer to release the Bluray set when the Bluray market was bigger.

LOTR: EE was also a Tuesday release, and not on Friday like Star Wars. That set also didn't go up against a $181 million comic book blockbuster that was making its home video debut.