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UAIOE 10-27-10 08:05 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by DarthPrime (Post 10456276)
Thinking about ordering the UK tin, but I've never ordered from Amazon UK before. When I go to checkout the price drops from 42 to 35 in my cart. Is that normal? Will they show how much will be taken off my credit card before it ships (converted to US currency)?

The price dropped because the VAT tax was removed. Residents outside of Europe do not have to pay it.

And Amazon will ask you if you want the charge converted to dollars for billing purposes.

I bought the set on Amazon UK and it is currently in transit to my door. :banana:

rdf8585 10-27-10 08:08 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
That sucks about the delay in getting the tin. The basic UK release shipped for me in 24 hours, but I definitely understand why one would prefer the tin.

Funny unboxing: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8rxhs2g7c&

But the guy is totally right.

Mr. Cinema 10-27-10 08:08 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
That youtube clip was hilarious once the guy starts complaining. I loved the part where he's asking why have 2 slots in each side after mentioning that when the DC is used, it's basically a useless disc.

Mike86 10-27-10 09:01 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
:lol: That video was hilarious.

I still haven't gotten my copy of the trilogy yet from Amazon UK. It shipped out on the 23rd but the site says the estimated delivery is November 15th. Hopefully it doesn't actually take that long :(.

Mr. Cinema 10-27-10 09:14 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I just opened my set. This is definitely the worst/cheapest packaging design I've encountered. I can see that most people are going to have more problems getting the disc back in.

However, the easiest way to remove/insert the discs are just using your index finger and then pulling down with it. It takes a few times to get it right, but the discs are fairly easy to remove once you get that motion down. It's a bit tougher getting the disc back in because you have to make sure the disc is far enough back in the case that it misses those little side clips.

This method uses the least amount of stress on the case and may help the bottom hinges survive long term.

DarthPrime 10-27-10 09:19 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by UAIOE (Post 10456481)
The price dropped because the VAT tax was removed. Residents outside of Europe do not have to pay it.

And Amazon will ask you if you want the charge converted to dollars for billing purposes.

I bought the set on Amazon UK and it is currently in transit to my door. :banana:

Thanks

Does the UK release work fine in US players? I've heard it works in the PS3, but I'm not sure if that matters or not.

Also which is better between the two shipping options of not receiving a damaged set (Air Mail/Priority)? I've never ordered anything like this before. I don't mind waiting the extra time, if the shipping is still good.

Mr. Cinema 10-27-10 09:22 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Here's a post via HTF that shows the method I was referring to.

1. Pull back

http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/4/4c...lbackdisc1.jpg

2. Lift up

http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/0/06...caf0_Lift1.jpg

3. Lift out

http://cdn.hometheaterforum.com/4/46...61_pullout.jpg

Supermallet 10-27-10 10:01 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Yeah, that's the way it's designed to work. You also put it back the same way, except you lay it in the slot instead of pulling it back out.

My Other Self 10-27-10 10:25 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Are there any pictures of the inside of the UK box? Not the contents but the way the discs are held?

NiCK Crush 10-27-10 10:26 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 10456791)
Are there any pictures of the inside of the UK box? Not the contents but the way the discs are held?

yea, there was a really nice video on YouTube which showed the discs inside. Let me see if I can find it.

rdf8585 10-27-10 10:52 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by NiCK Crush (Post 10456794)
yea, there was a really nice video on YouTube which showed the discs inside. Let me see if I can find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Au5c-kOsCsw

dolphinboy 10-27-10 11:21 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10456750)
Yeah, that's the way it's designed to work. You also put it back the same way, except you lay it in the slot instead of pulling it back out.

I hate the things, but getting them out isn't horrible. I still find any unnecessary risk to the disc unacceptable, but getting it back in, no matter how careful, is where I see problems down the line. It's just not as easy in reverse and you move your hand a little and you could do some damage, even with the much better scratch resistant discs.

TomOpus 10-27-10 11:33 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
There won't be a replacement program like with the DVD snafu, but I bet they will be putting these out in better packaging. I bet they're getting inundated with complaints.

Yavin 10-27-10 11:41 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10456925)
There won't be a replacement program like with the DVD snafu, but I bet they will be putting these out in better packaging. I bet they're getting inundated with complaints.

That is what I am waiting for, along with a price <= $30. Someone else mentioned that the digital copies are for a limited time only, so the 3-disc set will probably be in a more traditional layout with hubs.

Artman 10-27-10 11:51 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Lol...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti8rxhs2g7c

These feel more like summer films to me so I think I'll hold off for awhile, who knows...maybe they'll update the packaging, or we'll get word on individual releases...

My Other Self 10-28-10 12:11 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Wow that UK packaging is substantially better. I haven't been able to pick the set up yet but I guess I'm going to just import the tin.

PhantomStranger 10-28-10 12:31 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
The person in marketing at Universal who allowed that design should not be making decisions. A horrible design that I guarantee will get issued in a different configuration at a later date.

AmityBoatTours 10-28-10 12:50 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by Living Dead (Post 10456449)
I ordered the UK tin and got a shipping notice 5 hours later! :banana:

Then I saw the estimated delivery date... November 17. :sad:

Oh well. It's worth the wait not to have the shitty US release. And apparently the Australian "DeLorean Packaging" was so shitty it got cancelled, so it looks like the UK set is the way to go.

Most likely it will be in your hands in about 6 days.
thats like amazon.ca when they say the estimated delivery date is 3 weeks from the ship day, and it then shows up on your door step via DHL the next day or 2 days latter. that november 17th date is just so you wont call and question where your package is if you dont have it within a week or 2

freshticles 10-28-10 04:04 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I'm confused. Did the states not get a slipcover for the set?

wahlers 10-28-10 08:26 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
grrrr :(

DarthMarino 10-28-10 08:29 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by freshticles (Post 10457177)
I'm confused. Did the states not get a slipcover for the set?

It has a slipcover with a flap that opens showing some features. It stays shut with velcro. The slip is very loose on mine though.

wahlers 10-28-10 09:27 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
So there's no chance that anybody's going to address my valid question about the previous audio issues, is there?

If I was complaining about the cases or talking about the freakin' uk set somebody would reply.

Why does it seem like nobody cares about the films themselves???

RM811 10-28-10 10:05 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I didn't buy the set yet but that does look like bad packaging. Just having the DC disc in the set like that makes it bad. Once you use those there is really no point keeping them in the set so why have a holder for them. Hopefully rerelease without the DC will come with better packaging.

Groucho 10-28-10 10:07 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
The flap on the slipcover looks like it will only open and close a few times before the velcro falls off or stops working, so don't mess with that too much.

rdf8585 10-28-10 10:16 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Yeah, if the rest of the packaging didn't suck so much then that chinsy velcro thing would be more talked about. I had only seen something like that once before, but from a budget distributor. It was a disappointment to see it here.

Eddie W 10-28-10 10:32 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by wahlers (Post 10457512)
So there's no chance that anybody's going to address my valid question about the previous audio issues, is there?

If I was complaining about the cases or talking about the freakin' uk set somebody would reply.

Why does it seem like nobody cares about the films themselves???

It sounds like no one can even get thier discs out of the packaging to play them.

I really, really hate these package sets. I only want part I in a standard case, but only have the option of buying all three in this horribly packaged set. I wonder if Universal will ever realize these are three separate movies?

Jenx56 10-28-10 01:11 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
BTTF 1 and 2 are among my all-time favorite movies, but I too will wait for separate releases. I have The Office S.6 packaging and over time, there's no way to keep the discs from getting dinged up a bit, especially on the edges. The BTTF DVD set was a Day 1 purchase for me at $30, but over time I watched it drop to under $10. I'm sure the BR set will similarly drop, and would very much prefer separate cases.

TomOpus 10-28-10 01:38 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Did they announce individual releases? I remember people saying the same thing when the DVD boxset came out. I guess they're still waiting...

Boba Fett 10-28-10 01:56 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by TomOpus (Post 10458234)
Did they announce individual releases? I remember people saying the same thing when the DVD boxset came out. I guess they're still waiting...

The only one I could see them release on it's own is the original. Part 2 and Part 3 don't work on their own.

wahlers 10-28-10 01:57 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
They haven't announced separate releases yet, and who knows if they ever will. The original DVD trilogy came out in 2005, and the separate releases didn't come out until 2009.

P.S. Has anybody been able to confirm whether the previous DVD audio issues are fixed yet?

Supermallet 10-28-10 02:40 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
What are the audio issues the DVD had?

wahlers 10-28-10 03:12 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
There are many issues with distortions on voices and music, but two that are really noticeable are in Part II:

1) When Doc and Marty first show up in the future, Marty turns down the alley and gets his first glimpse of the future (this is before Doc asks him to change his clothes). The music flares up as Marty looks out the alley, and on the DVDs it sounds like it's underwater.

2) A similar occurence of the music problems occurs when we first see in the window of the nostalgia shop in the future where Marty gets the Sports Almanac. There's a music ad for Goldie Wilson's hover conversion (I think) playing over the scene, and again, the music sounds distorted and garbled.

Are these problems still there on the Blu-Rays?

My Other Self 10-28-10 04:18 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by wahlers (Post 10458287)
They haven't announced separate releases yet, and who knows if they ever will. The original DVD trilogy came out in 2005, and the separate releases didn't come out until 2009.

The original trilogy release with the framing issues was released on December 17th, 2002. Then the set was announced to go on moratorium, but Universal decided to re-release the set in 2005 which was the same as the one from 2002, just without the booklet and the fixed framing issues on Parts II & III. The individual releases of all three films came out in February 2009 so essentially it took 6 years and some change to get all 3 films released by themselves.

I don't know about you guys but yes, the packaging sucks, but if you're fans of the films why not just store them in something else?

Mr.Briggs 10-28-10 04:31 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by mcfly (Post 10458651)
I don't know about you guys but yes, the packaging sucks, but if you're fans of the films why not just store them in something else?

That's what I plan to do. I love the movies. Have no use for the digital copies. I've presold them for over half of what the box set cost me & will put the 3 remaining discs in a 3 disc blu ray case which I'll store right next to the abortion packaging. I'm hoping that Universal will issue replacement packaging though.

Cartload 10-28-10 05:12 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by wahlers (Post 10458491)
There are many issues with distortions on voices and music, but two that are really noticeable are in Part II:

1) When Doc and Marty first show up in the future, Marty turns down the alley and gets his first glimpse of the future (this is before Doc asks him to change his clothes). The music flares up as Marty looks out the alley, and on the DVDs it sounds like it's underwater.

2) A similar occurence of the music problems occurs when we first see in the window of the nostalgia shop in the future where Marty gets the Sports Almanac. There's a music ad for Goldie Wilson's hover conversion (I think) playing over the scene, and again, the music sounds distorted and garbled.

Are these problems still there on the Blu-Rays?

There were also some sound problems during the Enchantment Under the Sea dance. I will definitely post an update whenever I actually get around to watching Part II.

To be continued...

Supermallet 10-28-10 06:34 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 

Originally Posted by wahlers (Post 10458491)
There are many issues with distortions on voices and music, but two that are really noticeable are in Part II:

1) When Doc and Marty first show up in the future, Marty turns down the alley and gets his first glimpse of the future (this is before Doc asks him to change his clothes). The music flares up as Marty looks out the alley, and on the DVDs it sounds like it's underwater.

2) A similar occurence of the music problems occurs when we first see in the window of the nostalgia shop in the future where Marty gets the Sports Almanac. There's a music ad for Goldie Wilson's hover conversion (I think) playing over the scene, and again, the music sounds distorted and garbled.

Are these problems still there on the Blu-Rays?

I checked both those moments, although I don't have the DVDs to compare them against. I didn't hear distortion on either, although the music in Goldie Wilson's ad sounds like it was deliberately made to sound lo-fi.

mzupeman2 10-28-10 06:38 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Yeah, the packaging does, indeed, suck. I can take them out and put them back in fine, so I'm not concerned about ruining any discs but... I am concerned about the quality of the spring clips. Many have already reported them breaking upon 'normal' usage. I also dislike the cheap cardboard style packaging that houses all of the discs, and most of all, I really hate having to take my time to remove a disc and put it back in its place. I could take a disc out of a hub with no problems... I wouldn't have to put fingerprints on the disc or anything. Put it back in just as easily... but not in this piece of crap.

Now, that being said, I'd also like to say that I was one of the few in this thread that were laughing at the 'screenshot scientists', often siding with Josh in the fact that everyone should have waited before seeing the final product before tearing this transfer to shreds... well, not that I HAVE seen the final product for myself, I must say... I'm disappointed.

Back to the Future is one of the most beloved film franchises of all time, and the first film is one of the best films of all time. The transfers within this set are definitely miles above the DVD set, and I'm not sorry I purchased this either. However, I do feel that I've been consistently distracted by the EE... it's really atrocious. Do I think a 4k transfer would have looked better than a 2k one? Sure... but honestly? The resolution and everything is FINE... if it were not for the EE, this could have been one gorgeous set... but nope. Those halos aren't even TRYING to hide close to the objects they're shadowing... they're OUT there, man, and I just can't stand it.

I prefer these to the DVD set of course but, anyone who sticks up for how it looks as if it's the most gorgeous thing they've ever seen CLEARLY doesn't know what they're looking at.

CrazyMind2017 10-28-10 11:09 PM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
New member here, just registered after reading this entire thread. I'm wondering if the audio issues have been fixed for the 25th anniversary DVD (not Bluray) box set.

If that's the case, then maybe the 25th DVD set might actually be preferable to the Bluray, simply because of not having edge enhancement and digital filtering and whatnot.

I picked up the Bluray set at Costco yesterday and I love the digital enhancements for everything other than human flesh. All the street signs, storefronts, newspapers, etc. are extremely clear, and that to me is a plus. I also kind of like the tiny wrinkles and other flaws that are now visible in the actors' faces, but in general, I agree that the faces are too waxy and smooth looking.

Also, I'm wondering if the 2009 DVD extras disc (from Part I) is included in the 25th anniversary DVD set. Does anyone know if it's the exact same disc? Amazon says there are 7 discs in the set, but I'm assuming 3 of them are DC discs.

Is there anything in the 2009 releases not included in the 25th DVD/Bluray sets? Someone mentioned the only reason to buy the 2009 releases of Parts II and III are for the artwork, but I still have my original VHS tapes from almost 20 years ago for that. If there's nothing I need in that 2009 bonus disc, I have no reason to buy the 2009 edition of Part I either.

Oh, and also, in case anyone is wondering, Universal is STILL exchanging discs 2 and 3 from the 2002 box set with the framing issues. I knew about it but never bothered to exchange the discs, so I e-mailed them yesterday and they're sending me an envelope to send them the bad discs for exchange. I just hope the replacement discs have the correct artwork to match the first disc.

Sorry this is long, I don't usually write so much in a first post on a new forum.

wahlers 10-29-10 08:30 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
Thank you Suprmallet!

I'm pretty sure if the problem still existed, you would notice it even without the old DVDs to check against... it was not a subtle distortion.

slop101 10-29-10 10:24 AM

Re: "Back To The Future" on Blu! (10-26-2010)
 
I put my blu-rays into the old dvd case and tossed the retarded blu-ray case along with the useless digital copies.


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