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slop101 05-24-11 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10787984)
You really can't appreciate how utterly lazy and underwhelming the Great Dictator cover is until you're holding the case in your hands. If I didn't know any better, I'd honestly think I was gazing at a bootleg.

sigh...

PopcornTreeCt 05-24-11 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10787984)
You really can't appreciate how utterly lazy and underwhelming the Great Dictator cover is until you're holding the case in your hands. If I didn't know any better, I'd honestly think I was gazing at a bootleg.

I like the crosses/swastika design on the inner cover.

dino88 05-24-11 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10788071)
I like the crosses/swastika design on the inner cover.

Is that you, Lars?

Neeb 05-24-11 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10788062)

Actually, this is an excellent place to ask this question: Is there a fee or rights issue involved if Criterion uses original poster art from the original release?
I'm not complaining about Criterion art, but I'm a stickler for the original art on DVDs and BRs.
And Criterion doesn't uses it too often...

PopcornTreeCt 05-24-11 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dino88 (Post 10788088)
Is that you, Lars?

Whoa, I just like design that is all. Nothing more. Sheesh.

NoirFan 05-24-11 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 10788062)

Yeah, okay. No need to condescendingly link to a definition of minimalism as if I'm some sort of uneducated philistine. There's quite a difference between understated elegance and something that looks like it was slapped together in five minutes using MS Paint. Speaking of covers, check out the surprisingly bold image choice made by Artificial Eye for their upcoming DVD of Solaris, which easily surpasses the Criterion cover (may be a bit of a spoiler for those who haven't see the film):

dino88 05-24-11 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10788134)
Whoa, I just like design that is all. Nothing more. Sheesh.

Just a joke.

PopcornTreeCt 05-26-11 11:48 AM

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Kieslowski's Red coming via Facebook hint. I think that will also mean the whole trilogy will come out.

NoirFan 05-26-11 11:56 AM

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That bodes well for future releases if Criterion is releasing Miramax stuff.

Solid Snake 05-26-11 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10790503)
That bodes well for future releases if Criterion is releasing Miramax stuff.

C'mon, Pulp Fiction!






it'll never happen.

PopcornTreeCt 05-26-11 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 10790519)
C'mon, Pulp Fiction!






it'll never happen.

Pulp Fiction aside, Miramax has a great foreign film library that were pretty much always treated like crap on DVD. I'd love to see Criterion get their hands on:

Malena
My Left Foot
City of God
Dead Man

Solid Snake 05-26-11 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10790545)
Pulp Fiction aside, Miramax has a great foreign film library that were pretty much always treated like crap on DVD. I'd love to see Criterion get their hands on:

Malena
My Left Foot
City of God
Dead Man

Never seen Dead Man

though the other 3 I"d go nuts for. ESPECIALLY if we got Malena in it's original cut. I wouldn't mind if they Cinema Paradiso either...I'm sure CC would go nuts on that one for sure.

NoirFan 05-26-11 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10790545)
Dead Man

There is an Australian Blu-ray of this that was just released, don't know if any reviews are up.

JayDerek 05-26-11 02:08 PM

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Absolutely THRILLED to see that the Three Color Trilogy will be coming out via Criterion.

As glad as I am to know about it now, it would've been amazing to be shocked by this on announcement day.

I'm hoping this will be announced in a couple weeks...

Jaymole 05-26-11 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10790545)
Pulp Fiction aside, Miramax has a great foreign film library that were pretty much always treated like crap on DVD. I'd love to see Criterion get their hands on:

Malena
My Left Foot
City of God
Dead Man

I think Echo Bridge has the rights to Dead Man now.

riotinmyskull 05-26-11 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 10790721)
I think Echo Bridge has the rights to Dead Man now.

:suicide:

Solid Snake 05-26-11 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 10790721)
I think Echo Bridge has the rights to Dead Man now.

granted..I've never seen it but your comment didn't mean much to me until...


Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 10790726)
:suicide:

I saw this. That's when I remembered who the fuck Echo Bridge was. Jesus...

dino88 05-26-11 02:58 PM

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Olivier Assayas’ explosive and electric epic “Carlos” will be released on The Criterion Collection in 2011....The release will contain both the extended television cut of the film as well as the shorter theatrical edit
Any updates on Carlos? Release date...anything?

Solid Snake 05-26-11 03:01 PM

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Fucking random news

thelocal.com (it's Swedish)

Ingmar Bergman 'switched at birth': report

DNA analysis carried out by Sweden's National Board of Forensic Medicine (Rättsmedicinalverket) shows that Bergman and his mother, Karin Bergman, are not biologically related, the Dagens Nyhter (DN) newspaper reports.

The revelations, published in a new book by Bergman's niece Veronica Ralston, stem from an investigation she carried out after reading a book by author Louise Tillberg published last year which Tillberg argued that her father and uncle were siblings of Ingmar Bergman born to Hedvig Tillberg (nee Sjöberg).

"I contacted the board of forensic medicine to see if it was possible to perform a DNA analysis to clarify this," Ralston told DN.

"I suggested that they could use stamps which Ingmar Bergman had licked and sent on letters and postcards to his parents and compare them with my DNA."

Following the analysis, the agency informed Ralston, the biological granddaughter of Karin Bergman, that she and her famous film director uncle were not biologically related.

Ralston's sensational findings are presented in "Kärleksbarnet och bort*bytingen" ('The love child and the changeling'), in which the author also attempts to offer an explanation for what happened.

"When my grandmother Karin Berman gave birth to her son on July 14th, 1918, she had been very sick for a long period of time and it's possible the baby didn't survive," according to Ralston.

"But I haven't checked with the hospital in Uppsala if there are any records of a stillborn baby, so that is just speculation. But I think that is exactly what happened and that her husband Erik then switched the child with a baby that Hedvig Sjöberg had previously given birth to in Stockholm."

NoirFan 05-26-11 03:11 PM

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From the blog of Sam Smith, designer of the Solaris cover:

I hope anyone reading this will enjoy discovering or re-discovering this sci-fi classic by one of the world's master filmmakers, another of which is coming just around the corner from Janus Films...
If the 'another' refers to a second 'sci-fi classic', then Stalker would fit the bill. If the 'another' refers merely to another Tarkovsky film, then it would most likely be Andrei Rublev.

NoirFan 05-26-11 03:45 PM

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Or, as someone pointed out on the Criterion Forum, it could be merely a reference to the theatrical re-release of Fassbinder's sci-fi World on a Wire.

PopcornTreeCt 05-26-11 04:12 PM

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Did Sam Smith get bombarded with "your artwork sucks" e-mails? Because, well, I think Solaris is the greatest sci-fi film of all-time even better than 2001 and the artwork sucks, just totally fucking horrible.

NoirFan 05-26-11 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 10790860)
Did Sam Smith get bombarded with "your artwork sucks" e-mails? Because, well, I think Solaris is the greatest sci-fi film of all-time even better than 2001 and the artwork sucks, just totally fucking horrible.

I think it's a pretty blah cover, but it's certainly not as bad as the two awful Clowes ones for the Fuller films.

Superdaddy 05-26-11 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 10790711)
Absolutely THRILLED to see that the Three Color Trilogy will be coming out via Criterion.

As glad as I am to know about it now, it would've been amazing to be shocked by this on announcement day.

I'm hoping this will be announced in a couple weeks...

Oh, I will go through the roof if Criterion announces this for BD.

(rubs hands, licks lips in anticipation)

riotinmyskull 05-26-11 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10791045)
I think it's a pretty blah cover, but it's certainly not as bad as the two awful Clowes ones for the Fuller films.

you're crazy man - two of my favorite covers ever

nitin77 05-27-11 08:43 AM

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I just picked up the aussie release of Dead Man, will post some comments later after I compare it to the R1 DVD.

But it's Region B locked.

Drop 05-27-11 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10787984)
You really can't appreciate how utterly lazy and underwhelming the Great Dictator cover is until you're holding the case in your hands. If I didn't know any better, I'd honestly think I was gazing at a bootleg.

It's not like Criterion doesn't have the resources to produce wonderful artwork. If we can agree on that then you must ask why would they go with something so minimal? I'm going to say a lot of thought went into that cover.

They wanted to really emphasize the Chaplin-Hitler resemblance for one. Obviously it all comes down to the mustache. Your eye probably goes to that spot before anything. Then you notice the other signatures of each person, Chaplin's hat and Hitler's hair. It's a simple visual joke.

There are other things at play too. Chaplin plays 2 different characters in the film and they are opposites. So it is fitting that they arranged diametrically on the cover. And because you can turn the cover upside creating 2 different perspectives you get the idea the film is told from 2 different perspectives.

They also wanted to emphasize the Nazi aesthetic, and what better way to represent that than with the stark red and black so often associated with the 3rd Reich as well as the simple look of the swastika? That aesthetic is also known for being intimidating. Using it for a comedy makes fun of that look.

Of course you don't have to like it, art is still a matter of opinion, but I don't think Criterion in anyway thought they were taking the easy way out when designing the cover.

Jaymole 05-27-11 10:23 AM

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I think Noir Fan and I have the same taste in art as I am also not a fan of the covers for Solaris, The Great Dictator and the 2 Clowes.

NoirFan 05-27-11 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10790818)
Or, as someone pointed out on the Criterion Forum, it could be merely a reference to the theatrical re-release of Fassbinder's sci-fi World on a Wire.

Looks like it is World on a Wire.

MrStayPuft 05-29-11 07:50 AM

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Just curious, are there any OOP Criterion blus besides Third Man, Man who Fell to Earth, and Pierrot le fou?

nitin77 05-29-11 08:12 AM

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btw, in case anyone is wondering about the Aus release of Dead Man, single layered, 1080p, DTS-HDMA 2.0 but very solid upgrade in both picture and sound over the R1 dvd.

MTRodaba2468 05-29-11 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MrStayPuft (Post 10793980)
Just curious, are there any OOP Criterion blus besides Third Man, Man who Fell to Earth, and Pierrot le fou?

At the moment, those are the only OOP ones. I would have to also assume that both Le Cercle Rouge and Army Of Shadows, being Studio Canal titles, will go OOP eventually...

bluetoast 05-29-11 10:40 PM

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And despite the fact that Pierrot Le Fou is OOP, it has still been available new on Amazon for well over a year.

MrStayPuft 05-31-11 12:33 PM

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Another quick question if you don't mind. Besides early Criterion blu releases (Third Man, Bottle Rocket, Chungking Express, etc), what other releases since then come in digipacks?

Seven Samurai is the only one I know of offhand, any others?

dino88 05-31-11 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MrStayPuft (Post 10796171)
Another quick question if you don't mind. Besides early Criterion blu releases (Third Man, Bottle Rocket, Chungking Express, etc), what other releases since then come in digipacks?

Seven Samurai is the only one I know of offhand, any others?

The ones I own:

The Last Emperor
The Night of the Hunter
Sweet Smell of Success


...and I think Breathless is another one.

NoirFan 05-31-11 12:49 PM

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Amarcord
Breathless
The Leopard
Night of the Hunter
Sweet Smell of Success

MrStayPuft 05-31-11 02:01 PM

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Thanks for the replies! I was wondering if it was worth getting replacement cases for the earlier releases, but since there are other digipacks released since then, I think I'll just keep the digipacks.

Thanks again!

Arpeggi 05-31-11 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by NoirFan (Post 10796197)
Amarcord
Breathless
The Leopard
Night of the Hunter
Sweet Smell of Success

Last Year at Marienbad

Brent L 05-31-11 08:21 PM

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If anyone remembers, I posted earlier in the thread about spilling soda all over some of my BDs, specifically some of my Criterions. I emailed them about it, and Jon got back to me saying they would be happy to mail me the replacement covers that got damaged at no charge, including the cases and covers for The Leopard and The Night of the Hunter.

I just wanted to, once again, publicly praise the Criterion customer service. They continue to be the best!

riotinmyskull 05-31-11 09:33 PM

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