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Doctorossi 08-15-12 02:32 PM

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:D :banana:

NoirFan 08-15-12 02:33 PM

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Are these Rashomon extras new?


A Testimony as an Image, a sixty-eight-minute documentary featuring interviews with cast and crew
Archival audio interview with actor Takashi Shimura

NoirFan 08-15-12 02:35 PM

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Waiting on Trilogy of Life announcement now...

JayDerek 08-15-12 02:37 PM

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http://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-pr...png?1345055789

http://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-pr...jpg?1345055645

Giles 08-15-12 02:49 PM

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okay I've just fainted on the floor

~~

picked up Quadrophenia at Barnes and Noble this morning - can't wait to watch the extras.

NoirFan 08-15-12 02:53 PM

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That horror set would have made for a wild Blu-ray box, but I'll buy it regardless.

riotinmyskull 08-15-12 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 11347852)
it's not populated yet, but David Lynch now has a page on Criterion's website! :)

http://www.criterion.com/people/119692-david-lynch

EDIT: also Michael Mann and many others. Obviously place holders for the future

eraserhead and the thief. now please.

Giles 08-15-12 03:08 PM

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Trilogy of Life
New high-definition digital restorations of all three films, with uncompressed monaural soundtracks on the Blu-ray editions
New visual essays by film scholars Patrick Rumble and Tony Rayns on The Decameron and Arabian Nights, respectively
New interviews with art director Dante Ferretti and composer Ennio Morricone about their work with Pasolini, and with film scholar Sam Rohdie on The Canterbury Tales
The Lost Body of Alibech (2005), a forty-five-minute documentary by Roberto Chiesi about a lost sequence from The Decameron
The Secret Humiliation of Chaucer (2006), a forty-seven-minute documentary by Chiesi about The Canterbury Tales
Via Pasolini, a documentary in which Pasolini discusses his views on language, film, and modern society
Pier Paolo Pasolini and the Form of the City (1974), a sixteen-minute documentary by Pasolini and Paolo Burnatto about the ancient Italian cities Orte and Sabaudia
Deleted scenes from Arabian Nights, with transcriptions of pages from the original script
Pasolini-approved English-dubbed track for The Canterbury Tales
Trailers
New English subtitle translations
PLUS: A booklet featuring essays by critic Colin MacCabe; Pasolini’s 1975 article “Trilogy of Life Rejected”; excerpts from Pasolini’s Berlin Film Festival press conference for The Canterbury Tales; and a report from the set of Arabian Nights by critic Gideon Bachmann

Heaven's Gate
New, restored transfer of director Michael Cimino’s cut of the film, supervised by Cimino
New restoration of the 5.1 surround soundtrack, supervised by Cimino, in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition
New illustrated audio interview with Cimino and producer Joann Carelli
New interviews with actor Kris Kristofferson, soundtrack arranger and performer David Mansfield, and second assistant director Michael Stevenson
The Johnson County War, a video interview with historian Bill O’Neal about the real-life conflict that inspired the film, and its resonance in popular culture
Trailer and TV spots
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic and programmer Giulia D’Agnolo Vallan

Weekend
New, restored high-definition digital transfer, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
New video essay by film critic Kent Jones
Archival interviews with actors Mireille Darc and Jean Yanne and assistant director Claude Miller
Excerpt from a French television program on director Jean-Luc Godard, featuring on-set footage of Weekend shot by filmmaker Philippe Garrel
Trailers
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic and novelist Gary Indiana

Rashomon
New digital restoration, with uncompressed monaural soundtrack on the Blu-ray edition
Audio commentary by Japanese-film historian Donald Richie
Video introduction by director Robert Altman
Excerpts from The World of Kazuo Miyagawa, a documentary on Rashomon’s cinematographer
A Testimony as an Image, a sixty-eight-minute documentary featuring interviews with cast and crew
Archival audio interview with actor Takashi Shimura
Original and rerelease trailers
New English subtitle translation
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by film historian Stephen Prince; an excerpt from director Akira Kurosawa’s Something Like an Autobiography; and reprints of Rashomon’s two source stories by Ryunosuke Akutagawa, “Rashomon” and “In a Grove”

gryffinmaster 08-15-12 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 11347871)

Glorious. I can't wait. :up::up:

That's a hell of a month.

Dan 08-15-12 03:27 PM

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Definitely in for Rashomon. About time!

PopcornTreeCt 08-15-12 03:34 PM

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Great, great month.

LPMA 08-15-12 03:44 PM

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re: Kurosawa. I have to admit to Seven Samurai going way above my head for a couple of reasons. Is there still a chance I might be able to enjoy some of his other films more?

Doctorossi 08-15-12 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by LPMA (Post 11347990)
I have to admit to Seven Samurai going way above my head for a couple of reasons. Is there still a chance I might be able to enjoy some of his other films more?

That probably depends upon what those reasons are.

Arpeggi 08-15-12 04:03 PM

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Godard's weekend. Yeeeeea

LPMA 08-15-12 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Doctorossi (Post 11347993)
That probably depends upon what those reasons are.

I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.

cgray 08-15-12 04:19 PM

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Definitely in for Rashomon. Been waiting on that one for awhile!

Dan 08-15-12 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by LPMA (Post 11348010)
I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.

Honestly, that's understandable.

Give Rashomon a shot. It's only 88 minutes, and there's a small number of characters.

Or if you're into Shakespeare, Throne of Blood. It's under two hours.

Both of those were lent to me by a friend after I had only seen The Hidden Fortress (also good). Rashomon is probably my #1 favourite, but I have yet to see about half of his films.

Doctorossi 08-15-12 04:22 PM

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I would say that the rest of his catalog is substantially less so. Give one or two others a try and you'll quickly know if his pacing can work for you. I'd recommend giving Yojimbo a shot.

Solid Snake 08-15-12 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LPMA (Post 11348010)
I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.

Hidden Fortress is a very good one to get into AK. It's pretty much what Star Wars took the most out in terms of plot. Yojimbo's solid as well, Fistful of Dollars is the (at the time an unauthorized) remake of it.

NoirFan 08-15-12 06:17 PM

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Glad to finally get a release date for Weekend, I feel like I've been waiting on it for years.

rexinnih 08-15-12 06:26 PM

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In for Rashomon!!!!

davidlynchfan 08-15-12 06:30 PM

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I say "High and Low" is Kurosawa's most accessible and user- friendly film.

mike7162 08-15-12 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by PopcornTreeCt (Post 11347975)
Great, great month.

I may have to pick up a part time job to get through the rest of the year.

bluetoast 08-15-12 06:50 PM

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I'm happy.

CardiffGiant 08-15-12 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by LPMA (Post 11348010)
I found it incredibly long and slow paced, and found the multitude of characters interchangeable to the point where I wasn't completely sure who was who at times. That last point is entirely on me and not a fault of the movie per say, but it still made it harder for me to connect to the movie.

Rashomon is short, it comes in at 88 minutes, has only a handful of characters, and has a easy to understand storyline. The fact that the film is used and known in a number of different fields: law, psychology, etc. speaks to the universal nature of its themes.

I've shown the film to around 30-40 people and it's a favorite amongst many. All opinions are different, but I think Rashomon is the most accessible Kurosawa and the easiest starting point for anyone interested in his films. That said, I started with Seven Samurai as well...because I had heard the most about that film.

bluetoast 08-15-12 07:57 PM

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Rashomon is pretty accessible in part because everyone's seen a sitcom episode that derives from it in some way or another. But I would say that Yojimbo and Sanjuro are equally as accessible, but in this case they're compact films with some good humor, although they have a lot of characters.

I'd say Ikiru is a good opener too, but that's a favorite of mine anyway.

BuckNaked2k 08-15-12 08:09 PM

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Hmmmmmm..........

http://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-pr...jpg?1337108891 http://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-pr...jpg?1345055876

Giles 08-15-12 10:55 PM

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^ that movie has been in my queue on Netflix instant view for a while now.

slop101 08-16-12 12:58 AM

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You guys are way too kind. I say anyone who can't get through Seven Samurai should just give up on movies. Harsh, sure, but c'mon, it's fuckin' Seven Samurai!

Dr. Mantle 08-16-12 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11347935)
Heaven's Gate
New, restored transfer of director Michael Cimino’s cut of the film, supervised by Cimino
New restoration of the 5.1 surround soundtrack, supervised by Cimino, in DTS-HD Master Audio on the Blu-ray edition
New illustrated audio interview with Cimino and producer Joann Carelli
New interviews with actor Kris Kristofferson, soundtrack arranger and performer David Mansfield, and second assistant director Michael Stevenson
The Johnson County War, a video interview with historian Bill O’Neal about the real-life conflict that inspired the film, and its resonance in popular culture
Trailer and TV spots
PLUS: A booklet featuring an essay by critic and programmer Giulia D’Agnolo Vallan

Nice that they got Cimino to participate with the transfer, but those are some pretty disappointing extras. No commentary from Cimino? No making of doc of any kind? Not even the preexisting one? No dueling comments from critics? COME ON!! There was so much potential for Heaven's Gate supplements. This is a rare day one purchase for me, but my excitement is a bit tempered.

And yeah, Jeffrey Wells is an asshole. He actually tries to make the argument that he knows it's bad because he saw it at the premiere. "I know. I was there."

It's kind of bizarre that so many people get so offended by the very existence of this movie. I'm so fucking sorry that thirty years ago you had to watch a movie that you didn't like. Are people still forcing you to watch it? Why get so pissy over the minority of people who like it?

Dr. Mantle 08-16-12 01:33 AM

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For anyone who's interested, all three of Pasolini's Life films are available on Netflix streaming.

Undeadcow 08-16-12 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Arpeggi (Post 11348009)
Godard's weekend. Yeeeeea

+1; best Criterion release month yet (one hopefully to coincide with Barnes & Noble's next sale)

slowcloud 08-16-12 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 11347932)
eraserhead and the thief. now please.

Eraserhead did appear on Criterion's Hulu page for streaming, so that's also a good sign.

slowcloud 08-16-12 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle (Post 11348563)
For anyone who's interested, all three of Pasolini's Life films are available on Netflix streaming.

Good way to give them a test run because they are not for everybody.

LPMA 08-16-12 07:37 AM

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Thanks all for the Kurosawa recommendations!

Jaymole 08-16-12 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle (Post 11348559)
Nice that they got Cimino to participate with the transfer, but those are some pretty disappointing extras. No commentary from Cimino? No making of doc of any kind? Not even the preexisting one? No dueling comments from critics? COME ON!! There was so much potential for Heaven's Gate supplements. This is a rare day one purchase for me, but my excitement is a bit tempered.

Yes, those extras are disappointing...Criterion dropped the ball in that area....not the first time they've done that when it comes to supplements.

nitin77 08-16-12 08:20 AM

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will pick up all those, always was curious about Heaven's Gate.

Also, there is no bad Kurosawa.

Sondheim 08-16-12 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 11348660)
Yes, those extras are disappointing...Criterion dropped the ball in that area....not the first time they've done that when it comes to supplements.

Yeah, every once in a while they announce a long anticipated release of a major film and the extras are completely underwhelming.

In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.

If the interview is long I won't mind the lack of a commentary (since I can understand not wanting to talk over the length of an entire 216 minute movie.) But it really would have been nice to get the documentary.

Jaymole 08-16-12 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 11348708)
Yeah, every once in a while they announce a long anticipated release of a major film and the extras are completely underwhelming.

In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.

If the interview is long I won't mind the lack of a commentary (since I can understand not wanting to talk over the length of an entire 216 minute movie.) But it really would have been nice to get the documentary.

Yes, if any film cries out for a documentary/making of, this one does. Still can't believe Criterion did nothing in this department :(

NoirFan 08-16-12 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sondheim (Post 11348708)
In this case, I've been hearing speculation that Cimino's participation in the release may have kept them from including some of the more contentious extras (such as the "Final Cut" documentary.) He apparently has a pretty big ego and the documentary doesn't exactly paint him in a flattering light.

That was my thinking as well - Cimino isn't the type to sign off on a 'director approved' release filled with extras extensively dissecting and criticizing his destructive hubris and money-burning ways.


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