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Old 10-19-15 | 03:10 PM
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I need to know something about Inside Llewyn Davis. I read part of a review when the movie first came out and it seemed to indicate something that happened, but now I'm reading more recent writings that aren't so clear.

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Does the cat die?
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Old 10-19-15 | 03:18 PM
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I need to know something about Inside Llewyn Davis. I read part of a review when the movie first came out and it seemed to indicate something that happened, but now I'm reading more recent writings that aren't so clear.

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Does the cat die?
The only thing I strongly remember is wanted that 2 hours of my life back. I love the Coen Brothers, but this was a miss I didn't miss.
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Old 10-20-15 | 12:42 AM
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The only thing I strongly remember is wanted that 2 hours of my life back. I love the Coen Brothers, but this was a miss I didn't miss.
Yep, Add me to the list that thought Inside Llewyn Davis was brutally unentertaining.
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Old 10-20-15 | 09:04 AM
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I find the lovers/haters of Llewyn Davis utterly fascinating - I couldn't stand 'No Country for Old Men' or 'O Brother, Where Art Thou?'- yet I instantly fell in love with Llewyn Davis - guess strokes for different folks.
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Old 10-20-15 | 09:46 AM
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I find the lovers/haters of Llewyn Davis utterly fascinating - I couldn't stand 'No Country for Old Men' or 'O Brother, Where Art Thou?'- yet I instantly fell in love with Llewyn Davis - guess strokes for different folks.
O Brother, Where Art Thou? did (roughly) four times the box office that Llewyn Davis did (and that's in 2001 money...). So yeah, while there are different ice cream flavors for a reason ... O Brother, Where Art Thou? is more like chocolate chip and Llewyn Davis is more like raspberry ripple. Enjoy your ripple.
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Hey, I love NCFOM, don't look at me.
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Hey, I love NCFOM, don't look at me.
Who are you talking to, friendo?
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Old 10-20-15 | 12:21 PM
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I thought O Brother was fantastic, I still spin the soundtrack to this day and my wife and I quote it at each other regularly. Is Inside Llewyn closer to O Brother?
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Old 10-20-15 | 01:01 PM
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Yeah, I loved NCFOM and O Brother. Does that mean I won't like Llewyn Davis?
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Old 10-20-15 | 01:03 PM
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I thought O Brother was fantastic, I still spin the soundtrack to this day and my wife and I quote it at each other regularly. Is Inside Llewyn closer to O Brother?
Certainly, both soundtracks fit broadly in the "folk" category. You can sample the songs over at Amazon. I didn't have a problem with the soundtrack which currently ranks #4,737 in Music at Amazon. Whether you will be spinning it often is a matter of personal taste ... but of note, O, Brother still ranks #273 in Music (after 14 years).
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Old 10-20-15 | 02:26 PM
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Yeah, I loved NCFOM and O Brother. Does that mean I won't like Llewyn Davis?
I don't think it'll determine whether you'd like ILD or not.

I think ILD is more closely aligned with Barton Fink - it's very different than those other two films. Yet I think Barton Fink to be a great film, but only found ILD to be "good". I also don't think I'll find ILD to have much replay value - which is why I passed on it even at $5.
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Old 10-20-15 | 02:48 PM
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Well, no harm in checking it out. I see it's listed on Netflix Canada.

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Old 10-20-15 | 05:48 PM
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Well, no harm in checking it out. I see it's listed on Netflix Canada.
Definitely. This isn't like the DVD days - we have much greater ability to watch any show/movie via all the streaming services available. So much easier to avoid blind-buys now. It's the smart play.
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Old 10-20-15 | 09:38 PM
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Inside Llewyn Davis was a grower. I didn't know what to make of it at first. Then I couldn't get it out of my head, and watched it again a few hours later and really loved it. It has a real soul to it. Very much unlike what the Coens have done before, yet unmistakably them.
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When I saw Inside Llewyn Davis, I was most reminded of Synecdoche, New York. Not for story or character, but for being a film that make absolutely no effort to "please" anyone or anything. Davis is its own work, and it knows what it is, and it doesn't care what you think.

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I also have a theory that Davis himself may be living in a time loop. It's kind of the dramatic version of Groundhog Day. Oscar Isaac plays Davis as though he's literally done all of this before. But unlike Bill Murray, who had to become a decent person to get out of the loop, Davis has to perfect his talent, probably by feeling just the right amount of misery. And when Bob Dylan shows up at the end, Davis know's he's lost and he'll have to do it all over again.


Depending on my mood, I could call this the best work from the Coens.
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Old 10-20-15 | 10:26 PM
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I don't think any Coen brothers release has had any real supplements of note or substance. Do we have any reason to think this one will (besides the fact that it's their first Criterion release)?
I think back to Being John Malkovich, one of my all-time favorite movies -- glad I got a Criterion Blu Ray of it, but the new extras were minimal and pretty pointless.
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Old 10-20-15 | 10:56 PM
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I don't think any Coen brothers release has had any real supplements of note or substance. Do we have any reason to think this one will (besides the fact that it's their first Criterion release)?
I think back to Being John Malkovich, one of my all-time favorite movies -- glad I got a Criterion Blu Ray of it, but the new extras were minimal and pretty pointless.
There's a ridiculous amount of extras for ILD. They're all listed at Criterion.com.

New 4K digital transfer, with 5.1 surround DTS-HD Master Audio soundtrack on the Blu-ray
New audio commentary featuring writers Robert Christgau, David Hajdu, and Sean Wilentz
The First Hundred Feet, the Last Hundred Feet, a new conversation between filmmaker Guillermo del Toro and directors Joel and Ethan Coen about the evolution of their approach, from Blood Simple to Inside Llewyn Davis
Inside “Inside Llewyn Davis,” a forty-five-minute 2013 documentary
Another Place, Another Time (2014), a 101-minute film documenting an Inside Llewyn Davis tribute concert, featuring Joan Baez, Mumford & Sons, Punch Brothers, Gillian Welch, Jack White, and others
New piece on the history of “Fare Thee Well (Dink’s Song),” featuring music producer T Bone Burnett and the Coens
New piece about Dave Van Ronk and the Greenwich Village folk scene of the early sixties, featuring music writer and historian Elijah Wald
Sunday, a short 1961 documentary by Dan Drasin about the riots that took place in Washington Square Park after folk musicians were prevented from gathering and playing there
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PLUS: An essay by film critic Kent Jones
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Too bad there isn't a commentary from the Coens - they did a pretty good one for Man Who Wasn't There, so it's not like they're opposed to the idea.
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Old 10-21-15 | 09:19 AM
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This is good conversation, but I still need to know something:

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I need to know something about Inside Llewyn Davis. I read part of a review when the movie first came out and it seemed to indicate something that happened, but now I'm reading more recent writings that aren't so clear.

So:

Spoiler:
Does the cat die?
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Old 10-21-15 | 10:05 AM
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Well, I watched ILD last night, and I really enjoyed it!

I don't know if I'll buy it, but I'll definitely watch it again.
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Old 10-21-15 | 10:41 AM
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When I saw Inside Llewyn Davis, I was most reminded of Synecdoche, New York. Not for story or character, but for being a film that make absolutely no effort to "please" anyone or anything. Davis is its own work, and it knows what it is, and it doesn't care what you think.
Sophistry. No film cares what you think about it, but the filmmakers do. And if you think that the Coen Brothers don't care about making marketable films that fill the seats, you're dreaming.
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This is good conversation, but I still need to know something:
No. But one thing's for sure:

Spoiler:
It did run away, and Llewyn returned the wrong cat. You never see the cat die on screen, but you know it was lost somewhere along the road trip.
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Old 10-26-15 | 10:08 AM
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No. But one thing's for sure:

Spoiler:
It did run away, and Llewyn returned the wrong cat. You never see the cat die on screen, but you know it was lost somewhere along the road trip.

Spoiler:
Hmm. Not sure I want to invest the time, I have plenty of other unwatched flicks. Thanks
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Old 10-26-15 | 11:47 AM
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Don't know why you spoilered your response, but you really should invest the time in this movie, regardless of the fate of almost entirely symbolic animal.
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Old 10-26-15 | 01:42 PM
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Good news, pervs! The Criterion Blu-ray of Mulholland Drive has removed the optical censorship over Laura Harring's privates in the sex scene. That said, the shot is so incredibly dark that it's impossible to see anything anyway. If you screencap it and boost the gamma 300%, all you'll find is a blocky mess of pixels between her legs.

But if you were so infuriated by the principle of the thing, well, I'm sure you can sleep much better now.
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