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hdnmickey 05-11-17 07:03 PM

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I feel exactly the same way. It's actually kind of sad how long they have been using those same clear cases and not utilizing the option to do double sided inserts.

Bacon 05-16-17 06:10 PM

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August

inri222 05-16-17 06:15 PM

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Glad I unloaded the original CC dvd of Sid & Nancy last year for a profit.

hdnmickey 05-16-17 06:54 PM

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I've never picked up Sid & Nancy on home video before because it was either an inferior release or OOP. So glad to see it on the list.

dex14 05-16-17 07:57 PM

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Light month.

OldBoy 05-16-17 08:10 PM

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Sid and Nancy...maybe. Heard good things...

Coral 05-16-17 08:58 PM

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More opportunities to handle films the major studios don't want to, and yet Criterion decides to revisit a mediocre film like Hopscotch?

Hazel Motes 05-16-17 11:55 PM

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In for Meantime. But thats it. Never seen the Curtiz film. Actually outside of Casablanca and The Adventures of Robin Hood I haven't seen any Curtiz films.

clckworang 05-17-17 10:34 AM

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I'll definitely end up buying Sid and Nancy! Great news. I wasn't expecting that announcement.

OldBoy 05-29-17 08:55 PM

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mines preparing to ship. should have by weekend. cannot wait!

Ghost World

Hazel Motes 05-30-17 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by inri222 (Post 13074495)
Glad I unloaded the original CC dvd of Sid & Nancy last year for a profit.

The rerelease announcement of Sid & Nancy (as well as getting peanuts for my Straw Dogs Criterion dvd) prompted me to list my Criterion dvd's of Pierrot Le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, Army of Shadows, Notorious and Rebecca. As well as some other OOP dvd's that will surely see Blu Ray sooner or later. I sold most for more than I paid for them. Chungking Express went for 70 bucks. Almost 4 times what I paid for it. I don't know what I was thinking holding onto them.

slowcloud 05-30-17 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13084075)
The rerelease announcement of Sid & Nancy (as well as getting peanuts for my Straw Dogs Criterion dvd) prompted me to list my Criterion dvd's of Pierrot Le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, Army of Shadows, Notorious and Rebecca. As well as some other OOP dvd's that will surely see Blu Ray sooner or later. I sold most for more than I paid for them. Chungking Express went for 70 bucks. Almost 4 times what I paid for it. I don't know what I was thinking holding onto them.

Many of those titles are owned by Rialto. They ended their licensing deal with Criterion and they did their own blu-rays.

Rypro 525 05-30-17 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 13063604)
None. Lynch doesn't believe in Director's Cuts or alternate versions of movies. He has had the right of final cut written into all of his contracts from Blue Velvet forward and won't work without it. The theatrical release of the movie is his intended version.

Lynch has described the deleted scenes to Fire Walk With Me as windows into what else was happening around town at the time of the movie. He's OK with people watching them as their own thing, but doesn't want them incorporated into the movie itself.

I wonder if there was ever any talk of Criterion including the tv pilot version of Muholland Dr as an extra on the blu but Lynch told them no

Josh Z 05-30-17 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 13084198)
I wonder if there was ever any talk of Criterion including the tv pilot version of Muholland Dr as an extra on the blu but Lynch told them no

I expect that Criterion probably considered it but Lynch shot them down. He wouldn't even let them include chapter stops on the disc!

Josh Z 05-30-17 10:07 AM

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FYI, my local Costco has Ghost World in stock for $19.99 this week. Costco is typically very hit-or-miss when it comes to carrying Criterion discs, especially new ones. If you have a membership, this is a great price.

Mabuse 05-30-17 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13084075)
The rerelease announcement of Sid & Nancy (as well as getting peanuts for my Straw Dogs Criterion dvd) prompted me to list my Criterion dvd's of Pierrot Le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, Army of Shadows, Notorious and Rebecca. As well as some other OOP dvd's that will surely see Blu Ray sooner or later. I sold most for more than I paid for them. Chungking Express went for 70 bucks. Almost 4 times what I paid for it. I don't know what I was thinking holding onto them.

What would give you any indication those titles would return to Criterion?

LorenzoL 05-30-17 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13084075)
The rerelease announcement of Sid & Nancy (as well as getting peanuts for my Straw Dogs Criterion dvd) prompted me to list my Criterion dvd's of Pierrot Le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, Army of Shadows, Notorious and Rebecca. As well as some other OOP dvd's that will surely see Blu Ray sooner or later. I sold most for more than I paid for them. Chungking Express went for 70 bucks. Almost 4 times what I paid for it. I don't know what I was thinking holding onto them.

I wish I was as optimistic as you...

I would love to have a CC Blu-ray version of Rebecca as I still have the DVD and one of the rare instances that I loved the extras. I guess the MGM Blu-rays versions of Rebecca, Notorious and Spellbound are out of print?

I still have a sealed CC Blu-ray of The Third Man.

kefrank 05-30-17 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13084075)
The rerelease announcement of Sid & Nancy (as well as getting peanuts for my Straw Dogs Criterion dvd) prompted me to list my Criterion dvd's of Pierrot Le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, Army of Shadows, Notorious and Rebecca. As well as some other OOP dvd's that will surely see Blu Ray sooner or later. I sold most for more than I paid for them. Chungking Express went for 70 bucks. Almost 4 times what I paid for it. I don't know what I was thinking holding onto them.

Fair warning: for every Sid & Nancy, there is also a Silence of the Lambs or Hard Boiled.

When it comes to Criterion securing Blu-ray rights, nothing is guaranteed.

Josh Z 05-30-17 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hazel Motes (Post 13084075)
The rerelease announcement of Sid & Nancy (as well as getting peanuts for my Straw Dogs Criterion dvd) prompted me to list my Criterion dvd's of Pierrot Le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, Army of Shadows, Notorious and Rebecca. As well as some other OOP dvd's that will surely see Blu Ray sooner or later. I sold most for more than I paid for them. Chungking Express went for 70 bucks. Almost 4 times what I paid for it. I don't know what I was thinking holding onto them.

Pierrot le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, and Army of Shadows are all owned by Studio Canal, which has cut ties with Criterion and now licences its titles to Lionsgate in North America. You will not see any of those reissued by Criterion anytime soon.

Studio Canal put out its own edition of The Third Man that was notably inferior to the Criterion disc. (See also: The Man Who Fell to Earth.)

Rypro 525 05-30-17 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 13084384)
Pierrot le Fou, The Third Man, Chungking Express, Le Cercle Rouge, and Army of Shadows are all owned by Studio Canal, which has cut ties with Criterion and now licences its titles to Lionsgate in North America. You will not see any of those reissued by Criterion anytime soon.

Studio Canal put out its own edition of The Third Man that was notably inferior to the Criterion disc. (See also: The Man Who Fell to Earth.)

Though the new UK disc of the Third Man came from the new 4k remaster and that looks SPECATCULAR. no clue if the 4k restoration will ever come to blu in the states

Josh Z 05-30-17 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 13084387)
Though the new UK disc of the Third Man came from the new 4k remaster and that looks SPECATCULAR. no clue if the 4k restoration will ever come to blu in the states

Haven't seen that one. The Studio Canal Blu-ray from 2010 was pretty bad.

The recent Studio Canal Blu-ray for The Man Who Fell to Earth claims to be from a "Stunning 4k Restoration," but it looks like complete ass compared to the older Criterion Blu-ray.

Studio Canal screws up more of its restorations than it gets right.

EinCB 05-30-17 04:36 PM

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I agree with Rypro; the 4K restoration of The Third Man is great and it has a decent amount of extras. It's region free and I got it for about 18 bucks on Amazon shipped from the U.K. to New York.

Hazel Motes 05-30-17 05:00 PM

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The Third Man I already replaced with the Studio Canal box set and the Hitchcock titles I recently found used on Blu Ray, so I'm good on those ones. If Chungking Express, Pierrot Le Fou, Army of Shadows and Le Cercle Rouge don't get released again anywhere, I sold the dvd's for enough that it wouldn't be much of a stretch to buy the blu rays on ebay.

Hazel Motes 05-30-17 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mabuse (Post 13084227)
What would give you any indication those titles would return to Criterion?

No indication. But it doesn't have to be Criterion anyways. I'm quite happy with my Third Man Studio Canal set.

rocket1312 05-30-17 08:44 PM

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The Hitchcock titles are heavily rumored to be back at Criterion already. There has also been chatter online about Criterion maybe putting out a Wong Kar Wai box at some point, but I'm not sure how much substance there is to that chatter. It may just be wishful thinking.

OldBoy 05-30-17 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 13071349)
Not sure if this link will work, but I just saw this for the first time and thought it was pretty cool. To go along with the already posted Ghost World cover art:

https://scontent.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0...a7&oe=59B1C2BD

Oh man, that looks cool. Too bad Criterion won't be as wacky as that...

dino88 05-30-17 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13084653)
Oh man, that looks cool. Too bad Criterion won't be as wacky as that...

What do you mean? That is the Criterion. It's kind of hard to miss.

slop101 05-30-17 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OldBoy (Post 13084653)
Oh man, that looks cool. Too bad Criterion won't be as wacky as that...

What are you talking about? That's a shot of the actual package that Criterion posted to twitter/facebook:


Dan 05-30-17 10:58 PM

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:lol: it literally has "Criterion" in giant letters on the disc

EinCB 05-31-17 12:11 AM

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Some people have purchased Ghost World at Costco for $19.99.

Paul_SD 05-31-17 12:56 AM

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Cute- riffing on an old 78 for the disc art. :thumbsup:

Can't wait for the B&N sale to start to pick this up. I have a big list this sale, but this is at the top of it.

kefrank 05-31-17 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by dino88 (Post 13084673)
What do you mean? That is the Criterion. It's kind of hard to miss.


Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13084676)
What are you talking about? That's a shot of the actual package that Criterion posted to twitter/facebook:

https://twitter.com/criterion/status/862704961691451392


Originally Posted by Dan (Post 13084700)
:lol: it literally has "Criterion" in giant letters on the disc

Guys, the correct response is, "What are you, high?"

Josh Z 05-31-17 09:14 AM

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The "Eightball" booklet is a reproduction of a couple of original (very short) Ghost World comics.

OldBoy 05-31-17 10:48 AM

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I thought that was just a DVD version. My bad.

hdnmickey 05-31-17 12:07 PM

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Latest drawing from today's Criterion email:

http://i8.cmail19.com/ei/r/7B/3C3/FE...wacky_5-17.jpg

rbrown498 05-31-17 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hdnmickey (Post 13085019)
Latest drawing from today's Criterion email:

http://i8.cmail19.com/ei/r/7B/3C3/FE...wacky_5-17.jpg

Desert Hearts?

Ringmaster 05-31-17 03:39 PM

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I'm thinking it's Wild at Heart. Two wild cacti making a singular heart...... Twilight Time released their disc in April 2014 and they usually have a 3 year lease on their Blu rays.

Hopefully this means Criterion picked it up from MGM.

slop101 05-31-17 03:51 PM

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And hopefully it's finally the un-edited version this time.

AMERICAN 05-31-17 03:55 PM

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..I would definitely be in for "wild at heart" un-edited on bluray

Josh Z 05-31-17 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 13085203)
And hopefully it's finally the un-edited version this time.


Originally Posted by AMERICAN (Post 13085207)
..I would definitely be in for "wild at heart" un-edited on bluray

You'll change your mind when you see how goofy and fake the gore looks in the "unedited" version. It's basically just a wet rag being thrown up in the air. The American release version looks decidedly better by masking that behind some smoke.

The international theatrical prints represent an unfinished version of the movie. The American theatrical release was David Lynch's director's cut.


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