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Coral 01-01-14 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11963855)
the UK BFI edition though is better with the full length commentary track.

The comparison on DVDBeaver doesn't show me enough to justify re-buying.
I'm at a point where supplements don't matter much, especially commentaries - which I've rarely listened to in the first place. Hard to watch supplements when I could be watching another film. There's only so much time in the day.

goteam 01-01-14 10:33 PM

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Crazy guess, maybe the California Raisin represents The Big Chill. The first song is "I heard it through the grapevine".

bluetoast 01-02-14 02:14 AM

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If Umbrellas of Cherbourg is legit then hell yes. I've been wanting Criterion to get that for years.

Jaymole 01-02-14 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by goteam (Post 11963891)
Crazy guess, maybe the California Raisin represents The Big Chill. The first song is "I heard it through the grapevine".

nice guess, but it's actually for Raisin Arizona

Giles 01-02-14 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by bluetoast (Post 11963969)
If Umbrellas of Cherbourg is legit then hell yes. I've been wanting Criterion to get that for years.

why would it not be? - Janus films recently released the restored print over at the Film Forum in NYC.

fitprod 01-02-14 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 11963808)
I thought about It's a Wonderful Life, but I just don't see Paramount licensing that.

If Criterion hadn't released the title originally on Laserdisc, I would agree with you. Considering the situation with catalog, and the fact that they did release Robinson Crusoe on Mars, it's not out of the question at this point. (But I won't hold my breath over it...)

fitprod

riotinmyskull 01-02-14 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by fitprod (Post 11964115)
If Criterion hadn't release the title originally on Laserdisc, I would agree with you. Considering the situation with catalog, and the fact that they did release Robinson Crusoe on Mars, it's not out of the question at this point. (But I won't hold my breath over it...)

fitprod

Criterion has already confirmed that it is not IAWL via facebook

Coral 01-02-14 10:01 AM

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Ya know, I'm really getting sick of these stupid games Criterion plays.
Why don't they just tell us what fucking titles they're working on?

rocket1312 01-02-14 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11964152)
Ya know, I'm really getting sick of these stupid games Criterion plays.
Why don't they just tell us what fucking titles they're working on?

They do. On the 15th of every month.

LorenzoL 01-02-14 10:30 AM

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There was no hint for "Y Tu Mama Tambien" so maybe this is the year that they are going to finally release the movie.

Coral 01-02-14 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 11964173)
They do. On the 15th of every month.

Yea, not the same thing.

LorenzoL 01-02-14 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11964152)
Ya know, I'm really getting sick of these stupid games Criterion plays.
Why don't they just tell us what fucking titles they're working on?


Originally Posted by rocket1312 (Post 11964173)
They do. On the 15th of every month.


Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11964200)
Yea, not the same thing.

I don't mind Criterion using the doodles every New Year for their upcoming titles. My problem is that they make us wait 2-3 years for some of these releases...At least release all of those movies clues within the calendar year.

Solid Snake 01-02-14 11:08 AM

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Still waiting for Y Tu Mama Tambien. Been years since they gave that hint...I'm still waiting for it.

TheDuke 01-02-14 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LorenzoL (Post 11964204)
I don't mind Criterion using the doodles every New Year for their upcoming titles. My problem is that they make us wait 2-3 years for some of these releases...At least release all of those movies clues within the calendar year.

Yeah, I'm fine with the doodles. They are fun. I just wish they would let us know the status of movies like Y Tu Mama Tambien. It's not like they haven't made it obvious that they plan on releasing it, it wouldn't be spoiling anything for them to let us know a rights issue still being worked out, or something with the transfer, etc.

Solid Snake 01-02-14 01:57 PM

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Exactly. Don't tell me when exactly it's coming out. Just tell me every once in a while how it is coming along or something.

JayDerek 01-02-14 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11964477)
Exactly. Don't tell me when exactly it's coming out. Just tell me every once in a while how it is coming along or something.

this would be ideal for titles they've been teasing for a long time now. Just making a simple announcement would be nice. We know everything doesn't always happen how we'd like, but just a quick note does wonders

Giles 01-02-14 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 11964135)
Criterion has already confirmed that it is not IAWL via facebook

:(

Drexl 01-02-14 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by fitprod (Post 11964115)
If Criterion hadn't released the title originally on Laserdisc, I would agree with you. Considering the situation with catalog, and the fact that they did release Robinson Crusoe on Mars, it's not out of the question at this point. (But I won't hold my breath over it...)

fitprod

I wasn't considering the studio. I just thought it was a revered catalog title that the studio would want to keep for itself. I don't know how it sells, but I'd think it does relatively well for catalog as interest gets revived around Christmas each year.

islandclaws 01-02-14 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11964623)
:(

Ditto to that. The film deserves so much better than Paramount's weak-ass disc.

Neeb 01-02-14 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11964232)
Still waiting for Y Tu Mama Tambien. Been years since they gave that hint...I'm still waiting for it.

Well, now that GRAVITY is finally out, maybe Curon has some time to review the disc.

Hopefully.

conscience 01-02-14 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Neeb (Post 11964859)
Well, now that GRAVITY is finally out, maybe Curon has some time to review the disc.

Hopefully.

He's been in their closet recently. Maybe that's a good thing!

bluetoast 01-04-14 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Giles (Post 11964101)
why would it not be? - Janus films recently released the restored print over at the Film Forum in NYC.

This movie is one of those "I'll believe it when I'm holding it" situations for me. But I didn't know that bit of info about the print, so we're in good hands.

Supermallet 01-04-14 02:26 AM

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The behind the scenes stuff on this can be very contentious. Criterion was working with Lynch on an Eraserhead release, and somebody leaked that it was being worked on, and Lynch flipped out and pulled the plug. I can definitely see them being gun shy when it comes to announcements, considering that they have to license every title and appease who knows how many egos per release.

Jaymole 01-04-14 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Supermallet (Post 11966150)
Criterion was working with Lynch on an Eraserhead release, and somebody leaked that it was being worked on, and Lynch flipped out and pulled the plug.

If that is true, he sounds like one big mutant baby.

Solid Snake 01-04-14 09:48 AM

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You've got to be shitting me about Lynch freaking out. He denied CC Eraserhead?

rocket1312 01-04-14 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11966331)
You've got to be shitting me about Lynch freaking out. He denied CC Eraserhead?

I believe that story is from 15-20 years ago and is in reference to a possible LD release of Eraserhead. I don't think this means that the BD that Criterion has hinted at is canceled. However, the point still stands. These rights negotiations can be a tricky thing, and Criterion has made a conscious decision to (generally speaking) not openly discuss titles in process until they are ready to make a release announcement.

The New Year's drawing is basically a marketing gimmick, are not binding in any way, and in my opinion kind of fun. Every once in a while there's a situation like Y Tu Mama Tambien and unforseen circumstances keep them from releasing something right away. Otherwise, they usually deliver on their teases. Between the monthly release announcements, the monthly newsletter clues, the New Years drawing, their facebook page, and the annual Wexner Center talk, I feel like Criterion keeps its fans pretty well informed on what's going on.

That said, I need Picnic At Hanging Rock and I need it NOW!

slop101 01-04-14 12:35 PM

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I'm far more interested the prospects of Criterion putting out a blu-ray of Lynch's Mulholland Dr. than Eraserhead.

LPMA 01-04-14 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 11966459)
I'm far more interested the prospects of Criterion putting out a blu-ray of Lynch's Mulholland Dr. than Eraserhead.

Same here. I won't rest easy until it happens (or the film gets an adequate Region A release).

That being said, I'll take all the Lynch I can get.

Supermallet 01-04-14 01:39 PM

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IIRC, the Eraserhead debacle was in the DVD era, and the falling out with Criterion prompted Lynch to release the DVD independently through his website.

And I would kill for Criterion to release any Lynch film on BD (except for Wild at Heart or Inland Empire, both of which I'd be happy to never watch again).

fitprod 01-05-14 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jaymole (Post 11966242)
If that is true, he sounds like one big mutant baby.

What does that make Barbra Streisand that almost took out Criterion when she got all snippy about The Prince of Tides and cost them a ton of money... Disc were pressed and finished and she canned the release back in the day.

fitprod

Neeb 01-05-14 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by fitprod (Post 11966999)
What does that make Barbra Streisand that almost took out Criterion when she got all snippy about The Prince of Tides and cost them a ton of money... Disc were pressed and finished and she canned the release back in the day.

fitprod

Mecha Steisand!

Somebody get Robert Smith!

The Valeyard 01-05-14 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by fitprod (Post 11966999)
What does that make Barbra Streisand that almost took out Criterion when she got all snippy about The Prince of Tides and cost them a ton of money

See You Next Tuesday?

Coral 01-05-14 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by The Valeyard (Post 11967675)
See You Next Tuesday?

You're not doing it right.

TheDuke 01-05-14 08:23 PM

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Anyone know what Criterion's relationship with Lionsgate is? I just sent them an email recommending Paris is Burning for a release... Wondering how possible that would be.

fitprod 01-05-14 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 11967775)
Anyone know what Criterion's relationship with Lionsgate is? I just sent them an email recommending Paris is Burning for a release... Wondering how possible that would be.

There is none... That is why Ran, originally scheduled to be released by Criterion, was killed in favor of the disc released under Studio Canal's distribution deal in the US.

fitprod

milo bloom 01-05-14 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by fitprod (Post 11966999)
What does that make Barbra Streisand that almost took out Criterion when she got all snippy about The Prince of Tides and cost them a ton of money... Disc were pressed and finished and she canned the release back in the day.

fitprod

What was the issue? Were there behind the scenes shots that showed her in a bad light?

flansered 01-06-14 09:37 AM

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About Prince of Tides, all of this is from this thread at the HTF:
http://www.hometheaterforum.com/topi...es-ld-recall/:

Criterion says:

Doogan: ...Does Criterion still have stuff in the vault that's never been released but has been mastered, special-editioned and, in the long run, you couldn't do anything with it?

Becker: No. The closest to that was The Prince of Tides. With the problems we had many years ago on the laserdisc. That was simply a matter of Barbra Streisand quite rightly having found some typographical errors in the supplement and thinking better of a couple comments on the commentary track and asking us to change it, which we laboriously did over the course of a year-and-a-half. It lead to some delays, but in the end was more or less the identical disc to the one that we had originally produced with a couple of errors corrected and one or two (not terrifically significantly) comments lost from the commentary track.
But someone on the forum says:

In what turned out to be a very costly problem for Criterion, Barbra Streisand had COMPLETE control of the LD, and had final approval. The entire project met with her approval every step of the way, and the disc was pressed. But when a copy was given to Streisand for the final sign off, she refused to give it — she was very unhappy with the way she sounded in her commentary track, and wanted to do it over. There were also a few minor items in the supplementary material she wished to revise. And since she had final approval and creative control over the LD, Criterion had no choice but to follow her instructions and start work on revising the LD.

fitprod 01-06-14 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by milo bloom (Post 11967847)
What was the issue? Were there behind the scenes shots that showed her in a bad light?

Not that I am aware of...

I've heard behind the scenes stories about her changing stuff constantly, and then deciding to can the release. That's about it. Maybe we'll find out more one of the days...

*Doh, sorry, Flansered's post just about covers it.

fitprod

LPMA 01-06-14 12:45 PM

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So it never did come out on LD?

Solid Snake 01-06-14 12:46 PM

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I dunno. Maybe she's just a bitch?

Personally though I've never gotten what made her an awesome actress.


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