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Coral 08-30-13 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by gryffinmaster (Post 11815305)
Or, perhaps more likely, Bergman's Persona.

I fail to see how that would be Persona considering both figures look male and the circle around the letter A (which has nothing to do with Persona).

I'd love for Persona to be released, but this is definitely Boy A.

riotinmyskull 08-30-13 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11815508)
I fail to see how that would be Persona considering both figures look male and the circle around the letter A (which has nothing to do with Persona).

I'd love for Persona to be released, but this is definitely Boy A.

Person A = Persona

inri222 08-30-13 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by gryffinmaster (Post 11815305)
Or, perhaps more likely, Bergman's Persona.

Ingmar Bergman’s Persona is now available for pre-order in HD on the Criterion Collection’s iTunes channel.

http://blog.criterioncast.com/post/5...-available-for

Sondheim 08-30-13 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11807645)
Are people still bitching about Tiny Furniture even though Lena Dunham is kind of a big deal now? Or is it because she's such a big deal now that people are bitching about it?

Delayed response - but yes, you got it. I only "bitch" about Dunham just because I can't stand the fact that she's a big deal now. :rolleyes:

Well, actually, I don't care about Dunham - from my very limited exposure, I don't think she's talentless. I just thought Tiny Furniture was pretty bad, and it's one of the first things that comes to mind when I think of questionable inclusions in the collection. It has nothing to do with my hatred of Dunham, "hipsters" (whatever that term means nowadays), or successful women. In the past, I would have used Armageddon or Border Radio to make the same point.

But Criterion has always made some idiosyncratic choices - even back in the LD days. It's certainly not something I lose sleep over - as I said, I've never been one to particularly care about "the purity of the collection," nor do I think there was ever a point when they released "only the best movies."

It's just that Criterion still does a really good job of curating a collection of movies that are almost always worthwhile and interesting (and often very good and great) - so the bad films (or the movies that I find bad) stand out more.

If I thought that there had been a significant decline in the average quality of their new releases, I would be disappointed - but I actually think that they've become a bit more interesting (in a lot of ways) over the last four or five years. They've released a lot of the most obvious titles they have access to, so they've been forced to be a bit more adventurous - some of their choices are more obscure, yes, but they're often no less great than the "big" canonical titles.

Sondheim 08-30-13 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Coral (Post 11815508)
I fail to see how that would be Persona considering both figures look male and the circle around the letter A (which has nothing to do with Persona).

I'd love for Persona to be released, but this is definitely Boy A.

I actually really liked Boy A, so I'd be fine with that. But the fact that Persona was recently posted to their Hulu channel makes me think it's probably going to be the Bergman film (though I agree that the figures being male does confuse things a bit.)

Coral 08-30-13 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by riotinmyskull (Post 11815521)
Person A = Persona

OK, I can see it now (although the male figures make me question it still... should have either made them female or make their sex more ambiguous).

Josh Z 08-30-13 10:38 AM

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What's the average length of time between Criterion releasing one of their silly "hints" and the movie in question actually coming to fruition as a Blu-ray? Five years? Six? Ever?

Sondheim 08-30-13 10:45 AM

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There are probably a few exceptions, but it almost always happens within a year - and often quite a bit more quickly than that. In some cases, they officially announce it within a month or two after hinting at it in the newsletter.

gryffinmaster 08-30-13 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11815578)
What's the average length of time between Criterion releasing one of their silly "hints" and the movie in question actually coming to fruition as a Blu-ray? Five years? Six? Ever?

Well, let's look at some of the recent newsletters and see how they're doing:

Spoiler:


http://i5.cmail4.com/ei/r/3C/91A/21D...s/wacky_cs.png

Qatsi Trilogy -- Newsletter: August 2012 = Release Date: December 2012

https://i10.createsend1.com/ei/r/BC/...acky_lambs.png

Badlands -- Newsletter: September 2012 = Release Date: March 2013

https://i7.createsend1.com/ei/r/5C/F...acky_beard.png

Monsieur Verdoux -- Newsletter: October 2012 = Release Date: March 2013

https://i2.createsend1.com/ei/r/C4/2...wacky_aaay.png

Medium Cool -- Newsletter: November 2012 = Release Date: May 2013

https://i5.createsend1.com/ei/r/84/E...acky_movie.jpg

Repo Man -- Newsletter: December 2012 = Release Date: April 2013

https://i6.createsend1.com/ei/r/E9/8...acky_piggy.jpg

Lord of the Flies -- Newsletter: January 2013 = Release Date: July 2013

https://i6.createsend1.com/ei/r/65/9...acky_quail.jpg

Babette's Feast -- Newsletter: February 2013 = Release Date: July 2013

https://i4.createsend1.com/ei/r/D2/0.../wacky_map.jpg

Frances Ha -- Newsletter: March 2013 = Release Date: November 2013

https://i10.createsend1.com/ei/r/A7/...ckywedding.jpg

I Married a Witch = Newsletter: April 2013 = Release Date: October 2013

LPMA 08-30-13 01:33 PM

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They've hinted at Grey Gardens a good while back though and that's yet to come to fruition.

Josh Z 08-30-13 03:09 PM

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You'll have to explain the Babette's Feast hint to me. Not getting that one at all.

LPMA 08-30-13 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11815907)
You'll have to explain the Babette's Feast hint to me. Not getting that one at all.

I haven't seen the film but a quick search yielded that one of the dishes is called "entombed quail."

Josh Z 08-30-13 03:21 PM

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I guess I'm just wondering where Eraserhead and Scanners are. Both were hinted back in January. Neither shows any sign of being announced.

TheDuke 08-30-13 04:16 PM

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Hasn't it been almost 3 years since they hinted at Y tu Mama Tambien, also? I wonder whats going on with that.

gryffinmaster 08-30-13 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDuke (Post 11815973)
Hasn't it been almost 3 years since they hinted at Y tu Mama Tambien, also?

Unfortunately. It's one of the few remaining IFC holdouts.

Maybe it'll be released around the time Gravity hits Blu-ray.

LPMA 09-04-13 08:49 AM

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Heads up, Amazon has some pretty good deals on Criterion as part of their Gold Box today.

riotinmyskull 09-16-13 01:02 PM

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December titles:

Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion
Nashville
Martin Scorsese’s World Cinema Project
Grey Gardens

LPMA 09-16-13 01:10 PM

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For those unfamiliar with Scorsese's WCP, it includes the 6 following films:

Touki Bouki
Redes
A River Called Titas
Dry Summer
Trances
The Housemaid

Sondheim 09-16-13 01:15 PM

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Investigation of a Citizen Above Suspicion?
Nashville?
hopefully the first of several World Cinema Foundation sets?

:banana:

That's three absolute must buys for me this month.

flansered 09-16-13 01:24 PM

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I am really surprised that the WCP set has different films than the WCP set that Masters of Cinema is releasing.

Sondheim 09-16-13 01:28 PM

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The World Cinema Foundation has restored some 20+ films in the last five years, so presumably this will be the first of several volumes (Masters of Cinema has already stated that they plan to release new volumes on a regular basis.)

I just hope either MoC or Criterion gets around to Limite soon - I've been wanting to see that for a long time.

LPMA 09-16-13 01:44 PM

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Everything about the way the WCP set is presented seems to indicate this is considered as a one-off for now. I guess they may want to gauge interest first?

Sondheim 09-16-13 01:48 PM

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Yeah, it's a little bit disconcerting that they don't call it "Volume 1" or something of that sort.

However, it does say "No. 1" on the cover, so hopefully that means something:

http://s3.amazonaws.com/criterion-pr...0_original.jpg

I'm sure it's a bit of a financial risk to put out such obscure titles, but hopefully the Scorsese name and the Criterion label combined will be enough to sell it so we can get more sets in the future.

LPMA 09-16-13 01:51 PM

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Oh I hadn't noticed the "no. 1" on the small version of the cover, I guess that's a good sign!

islandclaws 09-16-13 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Josh Z (Post 11815931)
I guess I'm just wondering where Eraserhead and Scanners are. Both were hinted back in January. Neither shows any sign of being announced.

This bums me out so hard.

Solid Snake 09-17-13 12:18 AM

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I keep hoping Y Tu Mama También. Been waiting too long for that one.

nitin77 09-17-13 02:57 AM

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that WCF set takes my money over the MoC one simply for having The Housemaid in it. Also Nashville and IoCAS are awesome.

JayDerek 09-17-13 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11837720)
I keep hoping Y Tu Mama También. Been waiting too long for that one.

years now since that was first teased, right?

Solid Snake 09-17-13 09:25 AM

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Yep. What is it now? 2 or 3 years?

zekeburger1979 09-21-13 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11837720)
I keep hoping Y Tu Mama También. Been waiting too long for that one.


Originally Posted by JayDerek (Post 11837880)
years now since that was first teased, right?


Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11837969)
Yep. What is it now? 2 or 3 years?

January 1st, 2012 was when they released the drawing with the clues.

Criterion's Clues Image for 2012

Is 2 years+ the longest between a movie has being teased in a clue image and it's release?

Solid Snake 09-22-13 07:46 PM

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That was the clue. It was talked about before though.

MTRodaba2468 09-22-13 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11844220)
That was the clue. It was talked about before though.

It was also in the previous New Year's clue as well, along with being announced as one of the first wave (and, to date, the only unreleased) IFC films.

sandman007 09-26-13 06:10 PM

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New clue:


https://i6.createsend1.com/ei/r/8D/5.../wackybird.jpg

Why So Blu? 09-26-13 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Solid Snake (Post 11837720)
I keep hoping Y Tu Mama También. Been waiting too long for that one.

Import the UK Blu-ray. I've had for a couple of years now. It's great.

LPMA 09-26-13 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sandman007 (Post 11849629)

Any guesses?

cgray 09-26-13 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LPMA (Post 11849649)
Any guesses?

It's either the Bruce Willis masterpiece Hudson Hawk, or Brief History of Time (Hawking).

Drexl 09-26-13 06:53 PM

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Any chance it could be The Fisher King? You know how some birds will dive in and catch fish.

Coral 09-26-13 07:10 PM

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If it weren't already on Criterion, I would've guessed Royal Tenenbaums.

A Brief History of Time though seems like the right answer (Hawk-King)

Dr. Mantle 09-26-13 08:20 PM

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No one thinks Maltese Falcon?

Coral 09-26-13 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Mantle (Post 11849780)
No one thinks Maltese Falcon?

Where does the crown come in?


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