General Blu-ray news and discussion PART 3
10-25-07 | 06:14 AM
#201
Originally Posted by QuePaso
The A2 isnt 199 everywhere, just walmart, where it is being clearanced. So you cant call it the cheapest since its only cheapest in one store. You cant walk into circuit city or best buy and buy one for 199, so its a YMMV deal and should not be called official. The 399 ps3 will be available at all stores at the same price. You cannot compare a fire sale clearance of old gen hardware vs standard msrp price.
It's not like these are available at some local retail chain, this is at freakin' Walmart. THOUSANDS of stores across the US.
I didn't see a clearance sign anywhere in Gizmo's photo.
Not sure why you are getting irritated. We are just posting FACTS, which is very important. FACT: you can get the A2 for $198 at Walmart. FACT: the lowest priced PS3 "capable" player is the PS3 40gb, which will be sold for $399.
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10-25-07 | 07:01 AM
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The problem with both those articles about Amazon sales is that no numbers are given as a point of reference. What were sales before the 1000% jump? How many 40GB PS3s is a sell-out?
All the best to them, but it's vague and reeks of PR spin to me.
All the best to them, but it's vague and reeks of PR spin to me.
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10-25-07 | 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by kefrank
i've heard conflicting reports on that actually. supposedly, the BDA mandates that all players certified after October 31st have to be Profile 1.1-compliant. the actual release date of the player is immaterial. the 40GB PS3 was almost certainly already certified given its imminent release date and therefore is not required to meet the Profile 1.1 spec.
that being said, i'm hopeful that all PS3s will eventually receive a Profile 1.1 update.
that being said, i'm hopeful that all PS3s will eventually receive a Profile 1.1 update.
10-25-07 | 07:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Harry Lime
Seems like the 40gb isn't the only one selling well...
http://news.softpedia.com/news/80GB-...ii-68816.shtml
http://news.softpedia.com/news/80GB-...ii-68816.shtml
I do think that the 80 gigers will sell out pretty fast now that it is clear that backwards compatibility in all forms is going out the window.
I am trying really hard not to be negative about this stuff, but I am calling it as I see it.
10-25-07 | 08:46 AM
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I realize the 80 gig just got a 100 dollar pricedrop but I guess I underestimated the demand because amazon is now showing a shipping in 4 to 6 weeks shipping estimate for it.
10-25-07 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by GizmoDVD
A2 = $199
Cheapest Blu-ray Player = $499.99
$300 difference.
Cheapest Blu-ray Player = $499.99
$300 difference.
the numbers you posted aren't even comparable, since one is a street price and one is an MSRP. there are a number of blu-ray standalones streeting for less than $499.
10-25-07 | 08:58 AM
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The point isn't the spread, the point is the cost to the consumer. The NPD analyst quoted in the Reuters article a few days ago said the magic number is sub $200..
10-25-07 | 11:45 AM
#209
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
I realize the 80 gig just got a 100 dollar pricedrop but I guess I underestimated the demand because amazon is now showing a shipping in 4 to 6 weeks shipping estimate for it.
I toyed around with the Blu-Ray playback and it definitely seems faster than my BDP-S1. Jury's still out on actual PQ differences between the two, if any.
Here's hoping they'll eventually support DTS-HD decoding or bitstream passing on the PS3.
10-25-07 | 12:01 PM
#210
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Now we not argue about the damn price between the two different formats in the Blu-Ray thread? This sounds like an argument between my middle school students. I would like to be able to go to a forum with adults and be able to discuss things like adults. Not throw around prices of units like it really matters. Why are some people so incessant about trying to sell their particular format to others? If you want to pay 199 or whatever the cost for an A2 then go for it. If a PS3 for 399 is up your alley then buy away. It is becoming obnoxious to come here and wade through all of this shit just to get some worthwhile news.
10-25-07 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Now we not argue about the damn price between the two different formats in the Blu-Ray thread? This sounds like an argument between my middle school students. I would like to be able to go to a forum with adults and be able to discuss things like adults. Not throw around prices of units like it really matters. Why are some people so incessant about trying to sell their particular format to others? If you want to pay 199 or whatever the cost for an A2 then go for it. If a PS3 for 399 is up your alley then buy away. It is becoming obnoxious to come here and wade through all of this shit just to get some worthwhile news.
10-25-07 | 12:20 PM
#212
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
I don't see anything wrong with price discussions but this is the wrong thread to do it in. Either way, namja did say suspensions would be coming for thread derailers.
10-25-07 | 12:27 PM
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I would like to be able to go to a forum with adults and be able to discuss things like adults. Not throw around prices of units like it really matters.
10-25-07 | 01:27 PM
#214
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Originally Posted by chanster
A lot of adults would disagree with you, and NPD would also. ..I constantly monitor the costs of Blu-Ray players because I would like to pick one up.
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10-25-07 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
Alot of this comes off as Na na na na I paid less for my Hd-dvd player or you shouldn't buy a Blu-ray player because they are more expensive.
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10-25-07 | 01:39 PM
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From: Blu-ray.com
Koch Media and Universum Film join the Blu Camp
In Germany Koch Media and Universum Film are now amongst the ranks of Kinowelt, Concorde, Senator Film, Capelight Pictures, and Polyband supporting Blu-Ray. No detailed release schedule has been announced as of yet aside from Crank and the German summer hit Neues vom Wixxer which will be distributed via Universum.
Koch Media are the German distribs responsible for the Django Italo-Western Box, the Sergio Solima's set, and HALLELUJA ITALO-WESTERN-BOX amongst others. The distrib has currently announced the release of Stone Merchant starring Harvey Keitel which is set to arrive at the end of October.
Other titles of interest include Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof which is set to arrive on Blu-Ray this January courtesy of Senator Film.
Universum Film und Koch Media planen Filme auf Blu-ray Disc
Auf der IFA-Pressekonferenz der Blu-ray Disc Association wurden weitere deutsche Anbieter bekannt gegeben, die die Veröffentlichung von Filmen im Blu-ray Disc-Format planen. Neben Anbietern wie Highlight, Kinowelt, Concorde, Senator Film, Capelight Pictures und Polyband wollen zukünftig auch Universum Film und Koch Media das Blu-ray Disc-Format unterstützen.
Konkrete Termine für einzelne Titel wurden noch nicht genannt. Von Universum Film wurden als Beispiel für eine Blu-ray Disc-Veröffentlichung "Crank" und "Neues vom Wixxer" genannt. Ob die Studios neben der Blu-ray Disc auch HD DVD unterstützen werden, ist nicht bekannt. Die Pressekonferenz der HD DVD Promotion Group findet erst morgen statt.
Von den auf der Pressekonferenz der Blu-ray Disc Association genannten deutschen Anbietern haben zumindest Highlight, Concorde, Kinowelt und Polyband bereits Filme auch auf HD DVD veröffentlicht oder angekündigt.
Info courtesy of Blu-Rayler.
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Koch Media are the German distribs responsible for the Django Italo-Western Box, the Sergio Solima's set, and HALLELUJA ITALO-WESTERN-BOX amongst others. The distrib has currently announced the release of Stone Merchant starring Harvey Keitel which is set to arrive at the end of October.
Other titles of interest include Quentin Tarantino's Death Proof which is set to arrive on Blu-Ray this January courtesy of Senator Film.
Universum Film und Koch Media planen Filme auf Blu-ray Disc
Auf der IFA-Pressekonferenz der Blu-ray Disc Association wurden weitere deutsche Anbieter bekannt gegeben, die die Veröffentlichung von Filmen im Blu-ray Disc-Format planen. Neben Anbietern wie Highlight, Kinowelt, Concorde, Senator Film, Capelight Pictures und Polyband wollen zukünftig auch Universum Film und Koch Media das Blu-ray Disc-Format unterstützen.
Konkrete Termine für einzelne Titel wurden noch nicht genannt. Von Universum Film wurden als Beispiel für eine Blu-ray Disc-Veröffentlichung "Crank" und "Neues vom Wixxer" genannt. Ob die Studios neben der Blu-ray Disc auch HD DVD unterstützen werden, ist nicht bekannt. Die Pressekonferenz der HD DVD Promotion Group findet erst morgen statt.
Von den auf der Pressekonferenz der Blu-ray Disc Association genannten deutschen Anbietern haben zumindest Highlight, Concorde, Kinowelt und Polyband bereits Filme auch auf HD DVD veröffentlicht oder angekündigt.
Ciao,
Pro-B
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10-25-07 | 01:43 PM
#217
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Originally Posted by DVD Josh
I suppose if a person were immature enough not to realize the substantive value of such discourse than it may be so.
10-25-07 | 01:48 PM
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HD DVD Backer Weinstein Goes MIA; Speculation Mounts
Via High-Def Disc News:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...on_Mounts/1105
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http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...on_Mounts/1105
With no releases or announcements from the Weinstein Company in over four months, speculation is mounting that there are changes afoot for the HD DVD exclusive distributor.
Although the well-regarded indie had been among the HD DVD camp's most high-profile exclusive studio partners, releasing nearly a dozen titles over the first six months of this year (including 'Clerks II,' 'Lucky Number Slevin' and 'Scary Movie 4'), the studio has been uncharacteristically quiet in recent months.
In fact, we haven't heard a peep from Weinstein on the next-gen front since the studio's June 12 HD DVD releases of 'Harsh Times' and 'Black Xmas.'
Could the studio be re-evaluating its HD DVD exclusivity stance? That's the current speculation among industry insiders and fans alike.
We recently brought the question to the studio itself, asking a Weinstein spokesperson to comment on the ongoing rumors, but his response seems likely to only add fuel to fire. "We aren’t commenting on our High-Def plans at this time" was the only word back from the studio.
So what's cooking? Darned if we know, but with such highly anticipated next-gen titles as 'Grindhouse' and '1408' waiting in the wings, here's hoping the studio will break its silence sometime soon.
Although the well-regarded indie had been among the HD DVD camp's most high-profile exclusive studio partners, releasing nearly a dozen titles over the first six months of this year (including 'Clerks II,' 'Lucky Number Slevin' and 'Scary Movie 4'), the studio has been uncharacteristically quiet in recent months.
In fact, we haven't heard a peep from Weinstein on the next-gen front since the studio's June 12 HD DVD releases of 'Harsh Times' and 'Black Xmas.'
Could the studio be re-evaluating its HD DVD exclusivity stance? That's the current speculation among industry insiders and fans alike.
We recently brought the question to the studio itself, asking a Weinstein spokesperson to comment on the ongoing rumors, but his response seems likely to only add fuel to fire. "We aren’t commenting on our High-Def plans at this time" was the only word back from the studio.
So what's cooking? Darned if we know, but with such highly anticipated next-gen titles as 'Grindhouse' and '1408' waiting in the wings, here's hoping the studio will break its silence sometime soon.
Pro-B
10-25-07 | 01:54 PM
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Perfect example of not-news, a Web-site saying speculation has heated up. Is there any announcement of Blu-Ray releases?
Furthermore, how does this deal with Blu-Ray? In fact the semi-title of this thread is "HD DVD backer goes MIA"
Why not post it in the right forum? - the HD-DVD forum?
Furthermore, how does this deal with Blu-Ray? In fact the semi-title of this thread is "HD DVD backer goes MIA"
Why not post it in the right forum? - the HD-DVD forum?
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10-25-07 | 02:01 PM
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Originally Posted by chanster
Perfect example of not-news, a Web-site saying speculation has heated up. Is there any announcement of Blu-Ray releases?
Furthermore, how does this deal with Blu-Ray? In fact the semi-title of this thread is "HD DVD backer goes MIA"
Why not post it in the right forum? - the HD-DVD forum?
Furthermore, how does this deal with Blu-Ray? In fact the semi-title of this thread is "HD DVD backer goes MIA"
Why not post it in the right forum? - the HD-DVD forum?
10-25-07 | 02:03 PM
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Does this article state anywhere about supporting Blu-Ray? Thanks for telling me where I can spend my time..and personally attacking me. Who is speculating about Weinstein? This article does not mention anyone beyond "insiders and fans" I would like to know who is speculating.
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10-25-07 | 02:06 PM
#222
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Originally Posted by chanster
Does this article state anywhere about supporting Blu-Ray? Thanks for telling me where I can spend my time..and personally attacking me.
10-25-07 | 02:07 PM
#223
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
So I don't think you need to question my maturity when I bring this up, but rather take a look at what some others are saying and ask yourself why they say these things.
It needs to be understood that price is a critical component of the format wars. There are three MAIN reasons why people are adopting en masse
1) Ignorance of the format
2) No perception of increase in quality (or not an issue to them)
3) Price
Being a critical component, it warrants discussion.
10-25-07 | 02:09 PM
#224
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Originally Posted by tonymontana313
Because it is speculation that an exclusive hd-dvd studio would go neutral and support blu-ray therefore it is blu-ray news. Why do you spend more time in this thread rather than the hd-dvd news thread? I'm sorry but you stick out like a sore thumb in this thread.
Not only that, he's ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. There is ZERO proof other than sheer speculation that that is the reason, and that speculation is probably from BD supporters.
This is not news. This is nothing more speculation and should not be presented as news.
10-25-07 | 02:14 PM
#225
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Originally Posted by dsa_shea
If there are only two high definition formats out there and a studio second guesses supporting HD-dvd only then what else could happen? Yes, this very well could turn out to be good news for those who are Blu-Ray only.
