Instead of continuously derailing this thread I believe you should spend more time on reading what has been reported before making uniformed posts!

Given the distrib's relation to Strangehold and Hard Boiled for that matter, which are relevant for PS3 owners, I determined that posting the Weinsten bit above belongs in this very forum-a place where PS3 owners would typically look for news.

Relevant article:
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/...rdboiled_N.htm

Ciao,
Pro-B

I do agree that it warrants a discussion but not here in the Blu-Ray news thread. This is where time and time again people try to lay a beatdown on Blu-Ray by constantly bringing up HD-dvd player prices here in this particular thread. I respect the fact that you too are dual format or neutral but I do believe that some of the lobbying on here and "team" play has gone too far.

No. I am not required to read the whole forum before I respond to threads. I would like to know who these insiders and fans who are are speculating, and furthermore, I would like to know why this doesn't belong in the HD-DVD discussion...the article you posted had nothing to do with the "speculation" about the Weinstein studio.

All I can say is that this both the news AND discussion thread. I believe the forum mods realized that it's impossible to separate the two, as one will breed the other.

I'm with you on dual format support. My only complaints about BD are price, lack of extras, and the semantics. Doesn't change that I think the format is completely awesome, however.

Don't get me wrong, HD has its problems as well - load times, problematic firmware updates, not releasing prime titles and inability to seemingly take advantage of its market position.

That's why in an imperfect world, if you can't beat em, join em, and buy them both. Then you support the concept of next generation media, which is the most important issue anyway.

Surely in this case you are. It would have helped you understand why this bit of news is here:

Because an exclusive-HDDVD supporter was involved with the release of Hard-Boiled on Blu-Ray, via PS3's Strangehold, (read the article above). Which is more than a good enough reason to follow the distrib's progression on the market in the Blu-Ray forum.

Ciao,
Pro-B

Thank you Pro-B for at least discussing content, as opposed to yelling at me personally. I might disagree with you, but at least you addressed the content of my post, unlike others who question my right to be in this thread.

I still find the article you posted very weak - It names no sources of the speculation and does not indicate any official change. Therefore, I consider it nothing but rumor.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by semantics? Don't like the name 'Blu-ray'? I'm honestly curious and want to hear your thoughts.

I agree with everything you said but the bold section states my exact feelings. Some people on here act as if they stand to gain monetarily if one format or the other wins out. We are all just pawns in the big money making game that is digital movies and yet some people have failed to realize this. I enjoy movies so therefore I will buy the movies on whichever format they are released. When they go dual I weigh the pros and cons of that particular release on each format before I purchase a copy. My preference is in Blu-Ray as I have two players, but it would not bother me one bit to see both of these sytems ride it out until the next format is introduced to the world. I appreciate your contributions to these threads and look forward to having more productive conversations with you in the future.

I've been following this thread for a while and everyone of your posts in this thread have been negative towards blu-ray which leads me to believe that you are simply trolling the thread and have no interest in Blu-ray whatsoever.

While I'm neutral, I do have my preference for Blu-ray so therefore I have an interest in this thread and it ticks me off how it gets derailed on a daily basis. While there are things in the hd-dvd thread I don't agree with, I don't post my thoughts to keep the thread from getting derailed so I don't understand why hd-dvd supporters can't extend the same courtesy in this thread.

Again a personal attack. Why? I have a right to question supposed "articles" I have an interest in Blu-Ray I've said it for a long time and I will continue to say it. I asked a valid question - who are the sources of speculation. This article says nothing about Blu-Ray so I'm not even "bashing" Blu Ray by discussing this article.

What your personal opinion of me is, I don't give a damn. Your constant attacks on me seem like you are attempting me to goad into saying something. I will not. I questioned the article's sources and importance, relevant to Blue-Ray. Other people would agree with me. So please leave me alone and stop attacking me personally.

How is it a personal attack when I'm merely stating my observations. If you go back and read namja's post, he clearly stated if you are simply here to rebut pro BD news, you are trolling.

unfortunately, the movie is only playable on the PS3 and is not a genuine release of Hard Boiled on BD.

i'll consider Weinstein information news as soon as they officially announce the Dragon Dynasty titles for either hi-def format.

Please leave me alone, discuss the contents of my post, but not me I do not appreciate it. Thank you, Pro-B discussed the contents of the post, your airing of personal observations is a personal attack. I am not rebutting any news, I am questioning the soundness of the "reporting" behind this "article"

So is Stranglehold/Hard Boiled on a BD-50?

I get the impression most PS3 games are BD-25. But I would think to accommodate the movie and the game, they'd need more than 25GB.

You are completely overreacting and trying deliberately to cause problems in this thread. Please stop.

Everyone was told three times to stop derailing threads and I guess some people either can't read or just don't want to listen.

Ok, I am not posting anymore about the personal attacks on me, I will let the mods know. thank you

The only way to put it without risking a suspension is to say I don't care for the way BD markets itself and the verbage of some of its supporters. I don't find this to be the case in the HD camp (which is not to say it doesn't exist).

But I'm intelligent enough to make my purchasing decisions on my own and not based on what marketing gurus try to sell me.

Awesome DSA!! Glad I met another member with the same opinions about the formats. It's all happiness and rainbows from here on out

Has anyone seen any early reviews of the HD Hard Boiled that's on the PS3 version of Stranglehold?

DVD Josh, thanks for the clarification. I thought you meant something else.

Umm, can you please get back on topic of arguing semantics?

TIA.....

MODS!!! THREAD DERAILER!!!!!

Summary of the last 2.5 pages, in my view:

1. The price comparisons of the cheapest players. Somewhat valid. I'd rather not have that discussion here since it's not exactly Blu-ray news, but it did stem from an article about BD.

2. The pro-B article post about the article on Weinstein. It is only somewhat related to BD. Pure speculation and probably a SPIN article written by a Blu-ray fan. Even in the High Def Digest site, that article is in the Main news section and not under Blu-ray news section. I'd rather not see so many speculation articles, especially ones without much merit.

3. chanster. With regards to the Weistein speculation article, chanster has every right to question it. It may be annoying to some, but it is a legitimate question. On the other hand, chanster, posting something like "sticking out like a sore thumb" about you doesn't exactly constitute a personal attack. If you're that sensitive to comments by others, then you really need to take a few steps back.

Too many of you are taking all of this way too personally. As dsa_shea wrote, "Some people on here act as if they stand to gain monetarily if one format or the other wins out." I'll take it one step further and say that some of you act as though you are Blu-ray (or HD DVD), and that any attack on Blu-ray (or HD DVD) is a personal attack on you.

I said this 18 months ago (use search) and I'll say this again: Neither format is going away anytime soon. You don't need to embrace both formats, but you really need to learn to tolerate both formats.

namja
Moderator, DVD Talk Forums

To expand upon what namja said, certain members here could do well to remember that just because something positive is posted about one format, does not mean that it is a slight on the other format. It is obvious that many posters here support one format more than the other, even if they own both. It may irk these people to see positive posts about the format to which they are opposed, or negative posts about the format which they like. That does not mean they have to respond to those posts. There is at times a fine line between reasoned discussion and outright bickering, but if we can remain civil, things should stay firmly in a position that is amenable to everyone.

We shouldn't have to have mod interventions every two pages. This forum is not intended to be anti-HD or anti-BD. We support both and we support them equally. The consumers will determine which format, if either, eventually wins. Posts in threads here will not. So let's all take a step back and remember why we are here: To enjoy movies in the highest quality we can get.

Wonderful News....

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...n_Blu-ray/1099