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Originally Posted by T-bone22 (Post 13962497)

The closest I found was deserted islands (which isn’t quite the same), but I may have missed something.

Blood on the Beach was a theme in 2018. We have also done travel/vacation. Those seem to be the other closest ones.

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Originally Posted by T-bone22 (Post 13962497)

The closest I found was deserted islands (which isn’t quite the same), but I may have missed something.

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Originally Posted by clckworang (Post 13962789)

Blood on the Beach was a theme in 2018. We have also done travel/vacation. Those seem to be the other closest ones.

We also did a Jungle Horrors (paired w/ killer monkeys and gorillas) in 2013. The only difference with the island theme is the 'deserted' part, but that wasn't entirely accurate. Quite a few of those were with inhabitants. With this one it's "horror films featuring the jungle/rain forest or on an island", so looks like we've already covered it all. But hey, if I'm wrong let me know.

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A reminder there's no rule saying when voting for returning themes that you can't combine a couple (or more) older themes together to form a combo theme.

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Anyone else from the RIP list that should be on the theme suggestions list? All we have is Julie Strain. There aren't really any horror icons that have passed this time (knock on wood), especially compared to last year's with John Saxon, Stuart Gordon and Ennio Morricone.

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We have had a few audio commentary themes over the years but never a Historian/Film Critic Audio Commentary theme (fairly sure). Maybe as a combo with Documentaries because I know there are some commentary haters out there.

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Originally Posted by SterlingBen (Post 13962992)

I know we've had historian commentaries in the checklist before, but I don't recall a specific theme on it.

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Theme Suggestion: Disembodied Voices (may include electronic voice phenomena, hallucinations, supernatural, maybe even narrations, etc)
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...ror&plot=voice

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Theme Suggestion: Skeptics (people don't believe the threat; might be similar to detectives)
https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...r&plot=skeptic [Not sure if this is the best list]

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As a counterpoint to No One Dies, how about movies where everyone dies.https://www.imdb.com/list/ls058962520/

This one seems familiar, but I can't find if we've done this before.

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Whoa! Didn't expect a barrage of last-minute suggestions.

A reminder theme voting starts tonight, and it'll probably be late night considering there's still a few to go.

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Originally Posted by SterlingBen (Post 13962992)

I think a theme version of 'Masters of Commentary' could work on its own as long as listening to the actual commentary is optional. There's also quite a few MIA from the original checklist entries.

Stephen Thrower (some are video and booklet essays):
https://thedigitalbits.com/tag/stephen-thrower

Kim Newman has to be on there.

Kat Ellinger, David Kalat, Amanda Reyes ...who else?

Here's the past links from the checklist. A few are RMC links (or taken from) and are probably not up-to-date:

Joe Bob Briggs
John Carpenter
Larry Cohen
Joe Dante
Herschell Gordon Lewis
Tim Lucas
George A. Romero
Guillermo del Toro
David del Valle

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For the past three years now we've had 5 themes based on books with Studies In Terror, Heavy Metal Movies, Nightmare USA, Paperbacks from Hell, and Analog Nightmares. This year we have a couple suggestions with The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema and Suburban Grindhouse. Gotta say I love the book-related ones, and some were chosen by what's on my bookshelf, while the others compelled me to go out and buy the actual book each time. Maybe we should make this a reoccurring theme with a new book every year? Just thinking out loud as I prep this.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 13963422)

...Maybe we should make this a reoccurring theme with a new book every year?...

I like this.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 13963288)

I think a theme version of 'Masters of Commentary' could work on its own as long as listening to the actual commentary is optional. There's also quite a few MIA from the original checklist entries.

Stephen Thrower (some are video and booklet essays):
https://thedigitalbits.com/tag/stephen-thrower

Kim Newman has to be on there.

Kat Ellinger, David Kalat, Amanda Reyes ...who else?

Here's the past links from the checklist. A few are RMC links (or taken from) and are probably not up-to-date:

Joe Bob Briggs
John Carpenter
Larry Cohen
Joe Dante
Herschell Gordon Lewis
Time Lucas
George A. Romero
Guillermo del Toro
David del Valle

A lot of those seem to be Directors commentating on their own movies, admittedly well. The idea I was getting at would be someone not involved with the film at all that is doing a commentary on it (like what Joe Bob did, not on his show but on his DVD audio commentaries). A few examples that pop to mind would be the commentary on Creature From The Black Lagoon, Godzilla & Day Of The Dead. Alas a bit of a lack of internet lists on the subject but it is a feature I am seeing a lot on pre 90's horror.

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 13963288)

I think a theme version of 'Masters of Commentary' could work on its own as long as listening to the actual commentary is optional. There's also quite a few MIA from the original checklist entries.

Stephen Thrower (some are video and booklet essays):
https://thedigitalbits.com/tag/stephen-thrower

Kim Newman has to be on there.

Kat Ellinger, David Kalat, Amanda Reyes ...who else?

Here's the past links from the checklist. A few are RMC links (or taken from) and are probably not up-to-date:

Joe Bob Briggs
John Carpenter
Larry Cohen
Joe Dante
Herschell Gordon Lewis
Time Lucas
George A. Romero
Guillermo del Toro
David del Valle

Maybe some podcasts like The Hysteria Continues?

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Originally Posted by SterlingBen (Post 13963453)

No problem. I'll exclude directors and stick with film historians and the like. I'll probably have to tack on the documentary theme to pad as per your earlier suggestion since we'll most likely have to compile some of these. Rate That Commentary seems to be the only good all-in-one list source but doesn't look to have been updated in years.

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Originally Posted by DaveyJoe (Post 13963479)

Maybe some podcasts like The Hysteria Continues?

Yeah, they've done some Vinegar Syndrome, Arrow and other commentaries. Also an Amanda Reyes connection there.

The Hysteria Continues Commentaries:
https://letterboxd.com/thccommentari...taries/detail/ (49 titles)

All films covered on The Hysteria Continues
https://letterboxd.com/biscottikyle/...tinues/detail/ (249 titles)

The last one will make a good companion link to the slasher theme since its now separate.

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Female Killers (Ladies Who Kill) ~ No One Dies

It's been brought up these two themes contain spoilers. They're both currently on post 6. If the majority wants them removed, I will need more feedback. I'm fine with whatever decision is made, but I'm not making it myself as I've gotten flack for doing so in the past. There's also the option of changing the former to Female Protagonist, which is at 697 titles.

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No One Dies, Skeptics, Disembodied Voices, and Housekeepers are all on post 6. It turns out we have already covered gas station attendants back in 2014 with 'Retail Establishment Terrors' alongside markets and shopping malls. This was one of the many Hollie Horror lists we've used over the years that was separated later into its own theme.

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I'm gonna have to postpone theme voting until tomorrow night (7/29). Too much to do and not enough time to do it. That puts us at 3 days behind last year's schedule, but that's still a good place to be. We'll catch up later.

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Just a few actor suggestions:

*Julian Sands (22)
*Christopher Eccleston (8)
*John Goodman (5)
*Tom Sizemore (31)
*Jeremy Renner (5)
*Idris Elba (14)
*Tony Amendola (29)

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^Added to post 10 suggestions. We've never had a Tom Sizemore entry.

Just realized it's MTV's 40th anniversary so I tacked it onto the Yo! OHMC Raps theme (w/ new link) since it sorta ties together, which makes it a feature theme. It's horror films with tie-in music videos, rap songs/videos, used by rappers sampling horror movie soundtracks, and simply making references in their music.

Yo! OHMC Raps / MTV Turns 40:
References - https://www.highsnobiety.com/p/best-horror-in-hip-hop/ (20 titles)
Hip Hop Horror - https://www.imdb.com/list/ls052369025/ (19 titles)
Tie-In Music Videos - https://letterboxd.com/title54/list/.../genre/horror/ (11 titles )
Hip Hop Horror #2 (w/ videos) - https://www.mandatory.com/culture/58...ie-rap-songs/2 (10 titles)
Sampling - https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/a-bri...e-soundtracks/ (7 titles) (67 total titles)

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Originally Posted by Chad (Post 13963856)

Time to bust out The Fear.

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For the Theme voting i went through and compiled a list of 25 then whittled it down to my top ten ranked in order of preference.
1 joe bob says check it out
2 SterlingBen's Fermentation of Fear
3 The Sleazoid Express:
4 letterboxd top 250
5 elvira
6 one word titles
7 boomstick chronicles
8 suburban grindhouse
9 The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema
10 el santo vs the blue demon

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Horror Documentaries / Film Historian Approved:
Horror Documentaries - https://www.imdb.com/search/title/?t...&genres=horror (871 titles)
Horror Documentaries 2 - https://letterboxd.com/newarchive/li...taries/detail/ (137 titles)
Kim Newman - https://johnnyalucard.com/non-fiction/dvd-notes/ (??? titles)
The Hysteria Continues - https://letterboxd.com/thccommentari...taries/detail/ (49 titles)
Joe Bob Briggs - https://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/6...l#post12901903 (11 titles)
Tim Lucas - https://forum.dvdtalk.com/dvd-talk/6...l#post12901911 (5 titles)
Stephen Thrower - https://thedigitalbits.com/tag/stephen-thrower (?? titles) (1,073 total titles)

Here's this hybrid that's now on post 6. No, it's not complete. If it makes the cut I'll compile the Kim Newman entries into just commentaries since it's interspersed with linear notes. Hopefully we can find some more films with film historian commentaries, too. And yes, technically we have used horror docs back during the first theme nights list in 2009, but for some unbeknownst reason I didn't include links, so there you go.

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Here's a forgotten one that's Quentin Tarantino approved...

The Sleazoid Express: Volume 2 - Prostitutes, Oral Sex, Fingering & Foot Fetishes In Horror Cinema:
Prostitutes - https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/...&genres=Horror (417 titles)
Oral Sex - https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/...&genres=Horror (205 titles)
Fingering - https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/...&genres=Horror (26 titles)
Foot Fetish - https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/...&genres=Horror (19 titles) (667 total titles)

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Here's the annual taking a moment to shed a spotlight on the forgotten among us and remind everyone of their existence. These theme suggestions have been hanging around here since this thread started in 2015, and possibly even longer for some:

The Horror of War: (veterans, war scenes, war segments, war related zombies, war crimes, war ghosts, soldiers, bunkers, military, military base, etc.)
https://letterboxd.com/holliehorror/...of-war/detail/ (210 titles)

I Spit on Your Garage: (horror films featuring a garage/parking lot/parking garage/car park/mechanic shop, etc.)
https://letterboxd.com/holliehorror/...garage/detail/ (268 titles)

The Pen is Deadlier Than the Sword - Writers: (horror films with a central character who is a writer)
https://letterboxd.com/holliehorror/...riters/detail/ (158 titles)

Blood Showers: (water turning to blood from a sink, bathtub, shower, drain in a shower/bathtub, etc. and just plain showers)
https://letterboxd.com/holliehorror/...-blood/detail/ (43 titles)
http://flashbak.com/bathroom-nightma...-cinema-21319/ (18 titles) (61 total titles)

Stop Motion Animation Horror:
http://www.buried.com/horrormovies/k...s/stop_motion/ (116 titles)

Some have come close, while others will never know the thrill of victory. (here's looking at you, 2016's Necrophilia in Horror Films).

Also plenty of potential returning themes that have only been used once. See post 2 for those.

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Theme Nights Voting 2021 has begun!

https://i.imgur.com/4QZ0Sux.png

This is for both new and returning, 2 themes.
If you've already voted, no problem. Just remember there's been quite a few additions added recently, so please recheck the suggestions list on post 6 periodically. Occasionally new theme suggestions are added after voting starts.
There's no limit to how many times you can vote, or how many themes you can vote for. The only "rule" is one vote per theme. You can do it in this thread, or if you prefer privately - PM or via email. Makes no difference to me.
Also, keep in mind that some themes have unfinished or better lists/links coming. One such example is the Horror Documentaries / Film Historian Approved theme, which will be cleaned up with hyperlinks directing to the main thread later if chosen.
Certain themes might have to be combined with another theme or two if they don't provide enough titles.
And finally, don't hesitate to share any last-minute suggestion submissions, which brings me back to what was said earlier -- recheck the list periodically.

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My theme night votes:

NEW:

* 100th Anniversary of the Overlook Hotel's July 4th Ball
* Anxiety-Inducing Cinema
* Audience vs. Critic
* Five Colors of Death
* Flashback Horror
* Four Seasons of Death
* Franchise Horror
* Grief-Related Horror
* Horror Documentaries / Film Historian Approved
* Joe Bob Says Check it Out!
* Letterboxd Top 250 List
* Shock Waves 100
* Skeptics
* SterlingBen's Fermentation of Fear
* Streaming Originals & Exclusives
* Suburban Horror
* Time Travel / Loop / Distortion

RETURNING:

* Jawsploitation / Aquatic
* Killer Dolls / Puppets
* Made-for-TV Movies / Mini-Series
* Natural Horror
* Train Horror (previously used with Planes, Trains & Automobiles in 2014)
* You’ll Never Check Out

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New:

30th Anniversary of Elvira's Movie Macabre
SterlingBen's Fermentation of Fear:
Horror Documentaries / Film Historian Approved:
The Boomstick Chronicles - Horror Film Firearms: (How in the heck did the quad-shot gun from Phantasm 2 not make this list?!?)
Streaming Originals & Exclusives:
In Name Only / Unofficial Horror Sequels & Trilogies:
Electric Brain Stew: The Second Coming - Televangelists Riding Motorcycles In a Parade While Eating Candy
Necrophilia in Horror Films:
Hardcore Transition - Horror Films Directed by Porn Directors:
Blood Showers

Returning:

Abandoned Places
Apocalyptic
Asian Buffet of Terrors (Korean / Thai / J-Horror / Indian / Chinese / Filipino, 2 / Indonesian)
Children (Evil)
Class Warfare
Comedy / Spoof
European Passport to Terror (France / Italy / Netherlands / Norway / Sweden / Great Britain / Spain / Russia / Austria / Belgium / Czech Republic / Denmark / Finland / Germany / Greece / Hungary / Ireland / Luxembourg / Poland / Portugal / Romania / Turkey / NetherHorror Vs. Norwegian)
Extraterrestrial
Horror Films w/ Original Songs
Killer Dolls / Puppets
Meta
Mummies
Mystery
Scream Queens
Slime, Goo & Toxic Waste

(Narrowed down from 46)

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New

Having a Ball
R.I.P. Julie Strain (1962 - 2021)
SterlingBen's Fermentation of Fear: Bar
Joe Bob Says Check it Out!
The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema
The Letterboxd Top 250 List
Streaming Originals & Exclusives: Shudder
Ladies Who Kill
Skeptics
In Name Only / Unofficial Horror Sequels & Trilogies
The Best of the Worst Best Worst List of Horror - I love RLM so how can I not vote for this

Returning

One-Word Titles
Horror Fight Club
The Four Seasons of Death
The World is Hell. All is Hopeless
90 Minutes or Less
Deathball: Sports + Horror

Lots of good new entries.

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100 years of the Overlook
30 years of elvira
yo!ohmc raps
sterlinbens fermentation of fear
sleazoid express
title spoken by character
suburban horror
joe bob says check it out
i piss on your grave
streaming originals
letterboxed top 250
ladies who kill
skeptics
super celluid cinemuck
in name only
suburban grindhouse
hooded and cloaked figures
luchador horror
travalouge horror
audience vs critic
no wildcard theme day
deadly tumbleweeds
disembodied voices
four seasons of death

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NEW:
100th Anniversary of the Overlook Hotel's July 4th Ball
Yo! OHMC Raps / MTV Turns 40:
SterlingBen's Fermentation of Fear:
The Sleazoid Express: V 1 - Masturbation, Nipples & Pubic Hair in Horror Cinema:
Horror Documentaries / Film Historian Approved:
The Sleazoid Express: V 2 - Prostitutes, Oral Sex, Fingering & Foot Fetishes In Horror Cinema:
Joe Bob Says Check it Out!:
The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema: (taken from the book "The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema" by Michael Vaughn)
I Spit on Your Garage: (horror films featuring a garage/parking lot/parking garage/car park/mechanic shop, etc.)
Martial Arts / Kung Fu Horror Films:
Streaming Originals & Exclusives:
Ladies Who Kill: (horror films with female killers)
The Horror of War:
Skeptics:
Super Celluloid Cinemuck-O-Rama - 16mm & 8mm Horror Cinema
In Name Only / Unofficial Horror Sequels & Trilogies:
Necrophilia in Horror Films:
Hardcore Transition - Horror Films Directed by Porn Directors:
Shot in Bronson Canyon: (Wikipedia)
Revenge of the Bullied Kid:
Audience vs. Critic:

RETURNING
JAWSPLOITATION
Apocalyptic Horror
The 100 Greatest Horror Film Soundtracks
Video Nasties
Buried Alive and Itching to Survive - Subterranean Horror

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Theme night votes:

New
SterlingBen's Fermentation of Fear
Joe Bob Says Check it Out!
The Ultimate Guide to Strange Cinema
The Letterboxd Top 250 List
Disembodied Voices
Streaming Originals & Exclusives
Deadly Tumbleweeds
Extreme Extremities
Skeptics
Cerebral Cinema
The Best of the Worst Best Worst List of Horror
Hooded & Cloaked Figures

Returning
Raging Inferno: Fire-Laden Horror
Suburban Horror
Slow-Mo Horror
Franchise Horror
Horrors at the Nightclub
Grief-Related Horror
Stop Motion Horror Films
Travelogue Horror

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I'll throw out a returning theme vote for Theater of Blood. It's only been used once back in 2015 and the perfect time to resurrect it with movie theaters being back in business.

14 subset volunteers still needed, BTW.

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NEW:
Fermentation of Fear
Suburban Horror
Joe Bob Says Check it Out!
Horrors at the Nightclub
Ladies Who Kill
The Horror of War
Deadly Tumbleweeds
Hooded & Cloaked Figures

RETURNING:
Blood and Snow / Ice Terrors
Blood on the Beach
Campground Tales / Summer Themed
Insects, Killer Animals & Giant Monsters
Killer Dolls / Puppets
Killer Robots / Evil Technology
Road Terrors
Schools Out ...Forever
Slime, Goo & Toxic Waste
Subterranean
Synthesizer Scores
Theaters of Blood
USA Up All Night

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50th Anniversary of Monster Cereals:
Serial Killers - https://letterboxd.com/boris1980/lis...illers/detail/ (120 titles)
Monster Mash - https://letterboxd.com/matfield/list.../genre/horror/ (31 titles)
Cereal - https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/...moviemeter,asc (7 titles)
Movies That Inspired The Monster Cereals - https://letterboxd.com/pd187/list/mo...onster/detail/ (6 titles)
Cereal #2 - https://www.imdb.com/search/keyword/...;genres=Horror (3 titles) (167 total titles)

Just added to post 6. Started off as a joke theme until morphing into something worthwhile, or at least a good entry for the anniversary section on the checklist. They're definitely staples of the Halloween season.