Originally Posted by highclassrob (Post 9541583)

On a side note is the UK BD coming August 3rd region free or locked? I hear it has commentary (hopefully subtitled correctly!). Does anyone know?

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 9546594)

Still nothing here in Denton. Can someone take of pic of the corrected subtitles DVD case?

Originally Posted by DirkUSA (Post 9547026)

I just watched the first release over the weekend and I thought the subtitles were good. I don't speak Swedish and I didn't see it theatrically so I can't judge if the subtitles were wrong or different but they seemed good to me. I have seen Asian movies with subtitles that really sucked and I sometimes watch German movies with English subtitles with my wife (I speak German and she doesn't) and many times the subtitles don't match the spoken word at all. I guess the difference here is that I only saw this version and I thought it was good.

Dirk

Originally Posted by Cubicle Morlock (Post 9539490)

Would have figured by now, given the number of times this question has been asked, that someone would have definitively answered it. Or even taken a stab at it.

Since no one else seems to have, here's what little I can provide. I picked up the corrected disk (as others have mentioned, at Target of all places - Best Buy seems to be contently sitting on old stock, as is Frys) last week and watched it. I own, but have *not* watched the original "creative interpretation" subtitle version, so I cannot make direct comparisons there. Nor have I seen the original in the theater, the above viewing was my first and only experience with the film.

A couple websites, most notably in my memory iconsoffright.com/news/2009/03/let_the_wrong_subtitles_in_to.html, have already done comparisons between the original theatrical presentation and the first DVD run.

From the above "original theatrical" examples and what I *remember* from viewing the new DVD, I can state that the new corrected subtitles match. They definitely are *very* different from the dumbed down versions. But I can only state based on memory, and only against the examples shown on the website. No complaints accepted if a word or two is out of place, but what I saw on the website as original theatrical subtitles jogged exactly with memory from the DVD. And I can't say anything about any dialog not listed on the website. But I do know the general flow of the subtitles remained consistent with this more "wordy" style - if they snuck in sequences of the dumbed down subtitles, it sure snuck in under my radar.

Originally Posted by DirkUSA (Post 9547209)

Mmmmhhh, now the question I have is, how do we know that the theatrical subtitles are the correct ones? We would really need somebody who speaks Swedish to tell us which subtitles are closer to the spoken word. As I said before I know the problem from German movies that got English subtitles.

Dirk

PS Awesome movie and I would pick up the new version, if indeed the subtitles are a better match to the spoken word.

Originally Posted by Rypro 525 (Post 9556912)

found the DVD version today at Target in Owings Mills/reisterstown, but i took the last "fixed" copy, as there was one other that was the old version. It actually has 4 subtitle tracks (the original dvd version, the theatrical, the narative, and the spanish track) Looking forward to watching this

Originally Posted by Solid Snake PAC (Post 9560393)

The more I think of it the more I'll hold off. It's too high price wise considering that it's special features are rather weak. So until I find it cheap...I'll hold for now. Never noticed that it's still at full retail value.

Originally Posted by FunkDaddy J (Post 9560777)

The moment I see a fixed Blu-ray, it will be mine.

Originally Posted by DirkUSA (Post 9547258)

That still doesn't answer the question if the subtitles are really closer to the spoken word. It only shows that the theatrical ones are different and people say that they are better but how do we know that they are what the director intended?

Dirk

EDIT: I just looked at a few comparisons and I will pick up the Blu-ray if they release one with the theatrical subtitles as they seem to really change the tone of the movie.

Originally Posted by scott1598 (Post 9561046)

titles like these don't tend to drop at retail outlets.