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slop101 01-13-17 02:19 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by stingermck (Post 12987687)
God thats a horrible lineup.

No shit - the one game I want on that list I'd rather get on the U.

Nintendo should've waited longer until they had some actual content people could be excited for, not to mention by then, maybe they could knock about $50 of the price. Seriously. Lack of battery life, lack of content, high price - this thing will be dead on arrival.

stingermck 01-13-17 02:20 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Metroid would have been a system seller for me. But that is a forgotten IP for Nintendo.

Deftones 01-13-17 02:20 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I have zero desire for this system, but wish I could play Mario and Zelda. Oh well.

TomOpus 01-13-17 02:41 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by Adam Tyner (Post 12987688)
PowerUp Rewards Pro members get up to $75 additional credit when doing a trade-in to get the Switch. So, if you're trading in a Wii U deluxe, you'd get $195 towards the Switch. You also get reward points for buying stuff in general. Dunno if any of that's worth camping out for, but...

Thanks for the info, Adam. He didn't mention a trade-in but, honestly, he's an odd one and I really didn't want to get too deep with him. Maybe he just wanted the points. Again, thanks.

Adam Tyner 01-13-17 03:30 PM

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No Miiverse or StreetPass on the Switch:


Neither the Nintendo 3DS’s StreetPass feature or Nintendo’s social network Miiverse will appear on the company’s new Switch console. That’s what David Young, Nintendo of America’s assistant manager of public relations, told GamesBeat today at the Switch event in New York City.

“I can answer that we’re not going to be using Miiverse for Nintendo Switch,” Yong said when asked about the feature today.
Eurogamer's Tom Phillips:


I've heard FIFA Switch is based off of the 360/PS3 versions which still get made.
From Nintendo Life's hands-on:


The lack of real analogue triggers may be a disappointment to some...
Boo!

. . .

I swear, if you'd shown me this 24 hours ago, I'd think it was some cable sketch comedy parody.

http://media.giphy.com/media/9mHI8Lpmaaz0A/giphy.gif

Remember, this is fifty dollars. Also:

http://i.imgur.com/VNHqeiN.png

OldBoy 01-13-17 04:04 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
i used to love Nintendo and only bought the consoles. last was GameCube. alas, i am glad i made the switch to XBOX. so many more and better titles that suit my needs...

parrotheads4 01-13-17 05:40 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
I pre-ordered mine today, and can't wait to play some Zelda!
I like, and own every system. I'm the oddball in this thread.

Decker 01-13-17 05:50 PM

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Is there any reason that the Mario Kart 8 port doesn't hit the launch date besides the possibility that they wanted to have something for people to look forward to after the initial launch games before Summer? Seriously, this is a straight-up port of a three year old first-party game. I can't believe it's not intentional that it misses the launch date.

slop101 01-13-17 05:54 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Has there been any info on the differences between the Zeldas for the U and the Switch?

Adam Tyner 01-13-17 05:58 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12987925)
Has there been any info on the differences between the Zeldas for the U and the Switch?

Supposedly the Switch version runs at 900p docked and 720p undocked, while the Wii U version is 720p full stop.

The file sizes are basically identical, so it would appear that the assets are the same between them. Aonuma said he wanted the then-still-codenamed NX and Wii U versions to be on par in terms of graphics and gameplay. If anything's changed since then, no one at any of the hands-on events today has said anything.


Originally Posted by Decker (Post 12987920)
Is there any reason that the Mario Kart 8 port doesn't hit the launch date besides the possibility that they wanted to have something for people to look forward to after the initial launch games before Summer?

That's the answer that makes the most sense to me. Nintendo certainly has a long history of delaying completed games to fill gaps in their schedules.


Originally Posted by parrotheads4 (Post 12987915)
I pre-ordered mine today, and can't wait to play some Zelda!
I like, and own every system. I'm the oddball in this thread.

There are at least two of us!

fujishig 01-13-17 06:09 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12987761)
No shit - the one game I want on that list I'd rather get on the U.

Nintendo should've waited longer until they had some actual content people could be excited for, not to mention by then, maybe they could knock about $50 of the price. Seriously. Lack of battery life, lack of content, high price - this thing will be dead on arrival.

I don't think they could've waited much longer. Once Scorpio and whatever the next iteration of PS4 are out, at a cost that's only marginally more, they would be even more dead in the water than they are at this point.

fujishig 01-13-17 06:18 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by story (Post 12987691)
I didn't think I'd have a reason for posting in this thread, and I still don't think I'm going to buy the Switch. However, I love, love, love the No More Heroes games on Wii. Title is misleading as it's not necessarily a NMH game, but there's definitely Travis Touchdown. This could be interesting:



No development timeline or estimated release date was shared for the unnamed game.

The only thing they've seemingly worked on for this title is a single sketch that they showed off yesterday. Of course the translator was beyond terrible so it's very likely Suda51 said something beyond what was translated. But given what the other "presentations" were like (basically "they dragged me out here tonight to tell you how excited we are and I have absolutely nothing to show you") I'm doubtful.

Like seriously they couldn't even get a mock up of a cutscene or something?

ranspang 01-13-17 06:54 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
The only upside I see to this thing is that maybe after it fails miserably, Nintendo will decide to become a software only company.
Zelda and Mario and Metroid on Sony and Microsoft consoles, count me in again.

Adam Tyner 01-13-17 06:56 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 12987938)
I don't think they could've waited much longer. Once Scorpio and whatever the next iteration of PS4 are out, at a cost that's only marginally more, they would be even more dead in the water than they are at this point.

Nintendo's fiscal year ends in March, and I wonder if that played any role as well. The rumors were that the Switch was delayed to March so more software would be ready, so either those rumors were off-base or things were somehow even more dire once upon a time.

The Questyen 01-13-17 07:40 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by ranspang (Post 12987964)
The only upside I see to this thing is that maybe after it fails miserably, Nintendo will decide to become a software only company.
Zelda and Mario and Metroid on Sony and Microsoft consoles, count me in again.

People have been saying this since the Gamecube days still hasn't happened.

EinCB 01-13-17 07:57 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Get ready to pay $5.99 for Super Mario World for the fifth (or is it sixth?) time!

Chris Kohler:
‏@kobunheat
"Confirmed by NOA: Monthly free classic game on Switch is indeed only available for that month. More deets on Virtual Console before launch.

After a month, you can no longer PLAY the monthly Switch online classic unless you buy it."



Also, the Switch really costs about $350 or $360 since it comes with no games.

Edit: What the hell is wrong with linking to Twitter accounts? It comes up with a bunch of garbage in my post.

fujishig 01-13-17 08:13 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by EinCB (Post 12987999)
Get ready to pay $5.99 for Super Mario World for the fifth (or is it sixth?) time!

Chris Kohler:
‏@kobunheat
"Confirmed by NOA: Monthly free classic game on Switch is indeed only available for that month. More deets on Virtual Console before launch.

After a month, you can no longer PLAY the monthly Switch online classic unless you buy it."



Also, the Switch really costs about $350 or $360 since it comes with no games.

Edit: What the hell is wrong with linking to Twitter accounts? It comes up with a bunch of garbage in my post.

Geez so that play for a month thing wasn't a translation error? Beyond stupid. Will probably cancel my preorder now, at least the initial few months of free games were something for being an early adopter, but rentals? Ugh.

Also no pricing details on their online program yet?

Also non removable battery and no quick charge.

bippitty 01-13-17 08:15 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Maybe when the price drops and if there's a new Bayonetta. Or maybe they'll lock me in a basement and force me to play 1-2-Switch until I agree to buy one.

ranspang 01-13-17 08:16 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

People have been saying this since the Gamecube days still hasn't happened.
Only problem with that is that the Gamecube was good. Wii and WiiU were mediocre at best, now this thing is overpriced, more gimmicky,and with few games.
No way is the general public going to buy this system in any numbers.

Music 01-13-17 08:29 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12987925)
Has there been any info on the differences between the Zeldas for the U and the Switch?


The Questyen 01-13-17 08:39 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 

Originally Posted by ranspang (Post 12988010)
Only problem with that is that the Gamecube was good. Wii and WiiU were mediocre at best, now this thing is overpriced, more gimmicky,and with few games.
No way is the general public going to buy this system in any numbers.

These are all opinions and assumptions not facts.

ranspang 01-13-17 08:50 PM

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These are all opinions and assumptions not facts.
Sure, and I realized after I posted that I misrepresented the Wii as mediocre.
It was a major success and had a lot of good games. (I still have one connected to my TV as we speak, but only for the Virtual Console games.)
My WiiU, however sits in a box in my storage room. Only bought 4 games for it and never transferred my VC games to it due to the convoluted transfer system, was easier just to use the Wii.
The Switch, however, just seems like fail upon fail.

mattysemo247 01-13-17 10:00 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but Zelda looks sharper to me on the Wii U, but the colors look better on the Switch.

EinCB 01-13-17 10:09 PM

re: Nintendo Switch: Building a New Generation of Hardware from Scratch
 
What's the point of just buying one right or left controller? Can you actually do something of substance on the Switch using one piece of the controller?

Why is the regular looking controller more expensive than the gimmicky one? I don't get what Nintendo is trying to do with the accessories.

Adam Tyner 01-13-17 10:17 PM

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ARMS didn't exactly wow me during the presentation, but it's getting some insanely positive write-ups at the hands-on events. Turns out that the motion controls are optional, BTW. I'm curious about the single player campaign. The idea of shelling out another $80 for local multiplayer is...no.

Snipperclips was only shown during the sizzle reel at the end and isn't even getting a retail release, but that co-op puzzle game is a hit with everyone I've seen write about it too.


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