chuckd21

Finished this over the weekend. The way the game

is disappointing.

adrenaline78

I got platinum yesterday. This is the most bizarre video of an event I came across.

https://youtu.be/FVxpX8VQAPc

slop101

Finished it. Not 100%, but I liberated everything and completed the missions.

Compared to JC2, I'd say JC3 had the better "toys" (weapons, vehicles, wing-suit), but JC2 definitely had the better world/"playground". JC2's world was far more varied, with more locations and different things to to do. JC2 had an actual big urban city comparable to GTA, and JC3 had what felt like a half fished capital city, no big airport and villages that were just copied and pasted across the map. Actually, with JC3, it felt like they just gave up on putting things in the map halfway through, as that last big land mass is mostly empty and lifeless.

JC3 had more missions, but JC2 had much better and more varied missions.

What really hurt JC3 were the forced online connectivity and the way they integrated challenges in the game. But the biggest issue was the mostly lifeless open world.

Thought the best part of JC3 is David Tennant as the propaganda minister - he's freaking hilarious, especially as he becomes more and more unhinged as you liberate more outposts.

lopper

Is anyone still playing this on PS4? Has there been any patches or updates released to address the technical issues from launch?

I'm going to be out of town next week with a whole lot of time on my hands and nothing to really keep me busy buy my PS4. I've played pretty much everything I want to play, with the exception of JC3. With all the bad word of mouth around launch, I wanted to wait until it was more stable before picking it up.

mugwump

I haven't had any issues since the patch that was released a while ago.

james2025a

Totally agree with you. The sandbox for JC2 was outstanding and i think maybe this caused problems for JC3. How to make a new sandbox thats asgood but feels fresh? Well certain aspects for JC3 worked, but as you said it was way too much copy/paste or just open space. Even the volcano island felt wasted. In JC2 you had the secret island with the old WWII bunkers and huge electrical array. That was just a small extra really in the game was wasy far better than anything in JC3. The cities were a huge thing to miss out on, and whilst they may seem like they have been done over and over in the GTA games, it was something that JC3 needed. The second game literally had cities, mountains, deserts, forests, jungle, beaches, villages, hell even a NASA center, huge Arecibo like dish, Moutainside Hotel with large waterfall and skiing villages. It was incredible. All the bases in JC3 felt identical as well, it made attacking them simply depetitive.

I was excited as hell about JC3 prior to release. If they do a JC4 then i am seriously doubtful it will be a return to form.

foxdvd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VysWXsuGPHQ

Jim Sterling actually touches on this game in his latest episode..and it sort of makes sense...basically saying Just Cause 3 was going to be an online only experience at first.

slop101

Yeah, that makes sense. Probably why so much of the land mass seems useless, so it'll be one big online playground. Also why the single player missions are so mundane, because they had to slap them together last minute. This whole online only thing is really shitting the bed on a lot of games!

james2025a

Creating online only games is such a stupid move by games companies. I would love to know the number of regular gamers that play online and how many do not. I imagine the number offline is way more.

I hope after this mess and the feedback for lack of campaign on Battlefront that games companies go back to concentrating on single player experiences.

slop101

Especially since some of the more successful games (ratings and sales) have been single-player games like Witcher and Fallout.

chuckd21

Considering that every game in the year end NPD top 10 save for one is heavily multiplayer-based, I see no change in the way games are structured anytime soon.

slop101

Not "every", there's 3 or 4 that aren't.

chuckd21

The 10 best-selling games of the year
Call of Duty: Black Ops III (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)
Madden NFL 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Fallout 4 (PS4, Xbox One, PC)
Star Wars: Battlefront (Xbox One, PS4, PC)
Grand Theft Auto V (PS4, Xbox One) 360, PS3, PC)
NBA 2K16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Minecraft (360, Xbox One, PS3, PS4)
FIFA 16 (PS4, Xbox One, 360, PS3)
Mortal Kombat X (PS4, Xbox One)
Call of Duty: Advanced Warfare (Xbox One, PS4, 360, PS3, PC)

Fallout 4 is the only one on the list without a major online/multiplayer component.

slop101

Still not "every".

And if you strip out their local elements, they'd be dead in the water, just as the community for SW Battlefront is already dwindling.

Also, I'd say both GTA and Minecraft have bigger single-player elements than multi. And everyone I know who buys Madden/FIFA/NBA plays them locally, far more than online.

Just because they have an online component doesn't make it their selling point.

chuckd21

LOL I didn't say every. I said "every save one".

It's not their selling point, but it's what's making them money. For example: https://www.vg247.com/2015/09/23/gta...ve-gta-online/

People you know might be playing these games offline, but they aren't in the majority. Studios wouldn't keep chasing "online only" if it wasn't making them money. The industry chased "$10 used game online passes" and people said "screw that" and so it stopped. But always online games are here to stay.

slop101

But you're trying to make the point that those games are successful because they're multiplayer focused - I'd say they are successful in spite of it, as they also happen to be the most marketed games as well, not to mention parts of long-running franchises that were successful way before they went online - that has far more to do with them being in the top ten than them being always online.

james2025a

True, but i would say 9 out of the 10 games listed there come with a solid single player campaign or single play abilities that justify the purchase and online gaming is not the primary way to play the game. I was saying that to ignore the majority of people who enjoy playing games offline is just as, if not more, important that catering to the online only folks. Look at how many people bought GTA V when it was just a stand alone game

You are right....to an extent i would say. Most of the people (like myself) who bought GTA V when it originally came out no longer play it. We move on to other games. There may be a lot of people who play GTA V online on a regular basis, but compared to the amount that bought and played the game upon original release i think its a much smaller number. Comparing the offline play to online play for a game like GTA V thats a few years old now gives obvious results. Most people play the offline component, complete the game and move on to the next. Once online becomes available they may go back to it and replay, but most get invested in newer games and would prefer to dedicate more time to new games rather than rehashing the old one. Thats not to say a lot don't play these games online on a regular basis, hell i even enjoy going and playing the original Unreal Tournament online when i get a chance....but the older a game gets the more you see those online numbers dwindle.

Rob V

JC3 dropped the ball... I suspect JC4 won't make the same mistake and will go back to its single player roots with added elements for MP.

foxdvd

I finally started playing this. I am maybe 8 hours in. My expectation were lowered because of the reviews and reactions...but I am still disappointed so far. Just Cause 2 was one of the best games last generation. While not the best game, It had moments of pure fun that matched anything else. This game just feels empty. Sort of like they ran out of ideas, or took large parts out of the game to dish out as dlc later. It is not a bad game. In fact it is fun at times, but I can see myself giving up on it before I finish.

Decker

Yeah, I stopped playing it a long time ago. All I wanted was for it to be just more of the same, but somehow it's a way inferior version. Less fun.

mugwump

It was pretty lackluster as a stand alone game but I still like playing it hot-seat with a group of friends to see who can do the craziest stuff.

nickdawgy

I stopped playing, too. I got the digital version thinking I'd be playing all the time like JC2 and like you said, it's not as fun.

JC2 was great for just messing around. Attaching cars to unsuspecting planes taking off was comedy gold.

slop101

The biggest disappointment for me was the world. JC2's world had a lot variety, with landscapes, cites, structures, etc. This one seems like they just copy/pasted 3 different types of environments over a huge area. A very boring world. It can be pretty in some spots though.

foxdvd

I might be done with this..I am not having fun.

slop101

Just checking in to see if anyone's played the DLC (I think there's 3?) and if they're worth it?