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Decker 03-11-14 01:02 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
I see some TV ads, an ad that runs continuously on the PS4 demos in retail stores, many blog posts and they shot that nice live-action ad. It's not like they're giving it the Puppeteer treatment here. I think the true ad blitz will start next week after the Titanfall hype settles down. No point spending your $$$ now, trying to shout over that.

chess 03-11-14 01:14 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
"The Puppeteer Treatment" is exactly what I'm talking about.

A great game that would have been a better launch title than Knack, sent out to die.

Rob V 03-11-14 01:34 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
Does Sony really market any one game in particular? Most of their commercials are snippets of their current lineup whereas MS focuses on the hottest new game. I'd have expected Infamous and The Show 14 to be all over the place right now... but nothing.

chess 03-11-14 01:43 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 12040903)
Does Sony really market any one game in particular? Most of their commercials are snippets of their current lineup whereas MS focuses on the hottest new game. I'd have expected Infamous and The Show 14 to be all over the place right now... but nothing.

That's a great point about The Show 14. Sony could be marketing the PS4 as the go-to machine for dudebro sports gamers with the only MLB game on the market and superior versions of NBA and FIFA, but they aren't.

musick 03-11-14 01:45 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
my thought is there have not been enough consoles available to warrant mass marketing to the casual consumer .... most gamers (and those who own the systems that were available) already are in the loop in terms of knowing what inFAMOUS is and that it is coming out

Sony may just think this is money better spent later in time

on the other hand MS appears to have plenty of hardware available that they need to move off of shelves and thus they have spent the farm with non stop spots for both the hardware and software

once again I think Sony is in a much better position

mattysemo247 03-11-14 03:58 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 12040880)
"The Puppeteer Treatment" is exactly what I'm talking about.

Or maybe because of the way Puppeteer sold even after all of the marketing (and lower price) is why they haven't tried to market this one so much. I'm sure since this is the first big game since launch, they are hoping most of the people who have already bought systems know about this game. But as others have said before, this game doesn't have the name recognition to sell systems.

Adam Tyner 03-11-14 04:50 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 12041057)
Or maybe because of the way Puppeteer sold even after all of the marketing

I guess the obvious follow-up question here about Puppeteer is "what marketing?" (To be fair, there was no chance of it being a runaway hit no matter how much money they put behind it, but the game might've been less of a failure.)

chess 03-11-14 05:22 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
F'ing sold, and I'm playing evil.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/04Bi72v46sE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

Rob V 03-11-14 05:42 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 12041162)
F'ing sold, and I'm playing evil.

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/04Bi72v46sE" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

Day 1 for me regardless, but do these graphics really shout "Next Gen!!"?? If you told me this was footage from the PS3, I wouldn't be surprised.

slop101 03-11-14 05:44 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
Look great, but will it ever take place during daylight?


Originally Posted by Rob V (Post 12041182)
Day 1 for me regardless, but do these graphics really shout "Next Gen!!"?? If you told me this was footage from the PS3, I wouldn't be surprised.

I think they definitely look better than PS3, not by a lot, but noticeably.

Decker 03-11-14 06:05 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
There's no way the PS3 handles those lighting or particle effects

chess 03-11-14 07:18 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by slop101 (Post 12041186)
Look great, but will it ever take place during daylight?

Most of the footage they've shown to date has been daylight, including the E3 reveal.

Bear in mind that this was 9 months ago:

<iframe width="640" height="360" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/exl3PRTlv1U" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>)

Raul3 03-12-14 11:11 AM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by musick (Post 12040919)
my thought is there have not been enough consoles available to warrant mass marketing to the casual consumer .... most gamers (and those who own the systems that were available) already are in the loop in terms of knowing what inFAMOUS is and that it is coming out

Sony may just think this is money better spent later in time

on the other hand MS appears to have plenty of hardware available that they need to move off of shelves and thus they have spent the farm with non stop spots for both the hardware and software

once again I think Sony is in a much better position

I disagree with the general idea. Take Gears of War in the previous generation. Microsoft marketing machine really sold that game. They had record sales with Gears of War 3, billions of dollars. I Sony really tried they would be able to do the same with this new inFamous game.

Brack 03-12-14 11:24 AM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 12041782)
I disagree with the general idea. Take Gears of War in the previous generation. Microsoft marketing machine really sold that game. They had record sales with Gears of War 3, billions of dollars. I Sony really tried they would be able to do the same with this new inFamous game.

I think you're right. All signs point to Titanfall being a massive hit, one of the best selling games of the year. It will sell XOs. It's even a possibility that the game will be patched to have anywhere between 900-1080p resolution. I think the game looks great at 792p or whatever nonsense it is.

Back to Infamous: Second Son. It's partly why I bought a PS4 recently, because there were a lot of really good games on the PS3 I wish I'd had the opportunity to play. Hopefully they will be offered with that streaming service or whatever is supposed to come out and I can catch up.

Brack 03-12-14 11:31 AM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 12040915)
That's a great point about The Show 14. Sony could be marketing the PS4 as the go-to machine for dudebro sports gamers with the only MLB game on the market and superior versions of NBA and FIFA, but they aren't.

FIFA isn't superior on the PS4. They are virtually identical. I thought I read it was the same case with NBA2k14 somewhere. Maybe that's why Sony doesn't sell those games in that fashion.

musick 03-12-14 11:54 AM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 12041782)
I disagree with the general idea. Take Gears of War in the previous generation. Microsoft marketing machine really sold that game. They had record sales with Gears of War 3, billions of dollars. I Sony really tried they would be able to do the same with this new inFamous game.

you can disagree but I don't recall any major shortage of Xbox 360's
why should Sony blow their marketing load now when the retail channel doesn't have the inventory of hardware to make it worthwhile

are people going to go ohhh that game looks cool ... I'll go out and buy it at full price now and just wait till I can get a console to play it on eventually?!

Brack 03-12-14 12:01 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by musick (Post 12041837)
you can disagree but I don't recall any major shortage of Xbox 360's
why should Sony blow their marketing load now when the retail channel doesn't have the inventory of hardware to make it worthwhile

are people going to go ohhh that game looks cool ... I'll go out and buy it at full price now and just wait till I can get a console to play it on eventually?!

Newsflash: you can buy PS4s on Amazon. Perhaps elsewhere too.

Raul3 03-12-14 12:01 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 
That's why I said the general idea.

We know inFamous 2 numbers (VGchartz: 1.6 millions). We know that Sony has sold more than 6 million PS4s. This new inFamous game should sell more than 4 million if Sony really tried.

That's why I mention Gears of War. That's one of my favorites, but its nowhere close to COD, or even Halo. But at the right moment Microsoft was able to sell more than 5 million units of that game!

chess 03-12-14 12:14 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12041843)
Newsflash: you can buy PS4s on Amazon. Perhaps elsewhere too.

Newsflash: No.

musick 03-12-14 12:16 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12041843)
Newsflash: you can buy PS4s on Amazon. Perhaps elsewhere too.


Originally Posted by chess (Post 12041853)
Newsflash: No.

exactly

musick 03-12-14 12:18 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Raul3 (Post 12041846)
That's why I said the general idea.

We know inFamous 2 numbers (VGchartz: 1.6 millions). We know that Sony has sold more than 6 million PS4s. This new inFamous game should sell more than 4 million if Sony really tried.

That's why I mention Gears of War. That's one of my favorites, but its nowhere close to COD, or even Halo. But at the right moment Microsoft was able to sell more than 5 million units of that game!

not with only 7 million Xbox's sold they weren't

Brack 03-12-14 12:22 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by musick (Post 12041859)
exactly

You snooze, you lose.

Wait two weeks, and there will be more. It's all just a ploy to generate demand with having a limited supply.

musick 03-12-14 12:26 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12041870)
You snooze, you lose.

Wait two weeks, and there will be more. It's all just a ploy to generate demand with having a limited supply.

I didn't snooze ... I have a PS4 and will be buying infamous SS

you are making a false argument unless you thinks Sony should spend all their marketing money now on a game that the casual consumer can wait 2 weeks to possibly (not likely) find a $399 console they can play it on and not much else

musick 03-12-14 12:27 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by Brack (Post 12041876)
Newsflash: Yes.

if you are trying to prove our case for us you are doing a fine job of doing so as you post a link to 4 skus that are all sold out .... keep up the fight

Brack 03-12-14 12:30 PM

Re: inFAMOUS Second Son (3/21/2014)
 

Originally Posted by musick (Post 12041880)
if you are trying to prove our case for us you are doing a fine job of doing so as you post a link to 4 skus that are all sold out .... keep up the fight

Yeah, I made a mistake. I deleted my post. Damn Best Buy and their deceptive listings :lol:


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