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Old 06-10-13 | 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by mattysemo247
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And not a shit was given.
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Other than Titanfall, which looked amazing, and maybe Dead Rising, Xbone conference failed pretty hard IMO.
  • Rehash games (Halo/Forza)
  • Quick Time Events (really?)
  • $500 price tag (at least $100 of which is Kinect features you don't care about)
  • Nothing to address concerns about DRM
  • Nothing to address concerns about privacy
Old 06-10-13 | 01:52 PM
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I didn't even watch the MS press conference But judging from the list of what was shown, the only thing I would be interested in checking out is Killer Instinct.
Old 06-10-13 | 01:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin
To be fair Kratos' schtick has worn thin, IMO and has kinda hampered his cool factor.
Agree with this. He feels very much like a last gen (talking PS2 gen) character.

That said, the premise and backstory is still pretty badass...ashes of his dead family and all.
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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind
I didn't even watch the MS press conference
To no one's surprise

Other then the high (but not exactly unexpected price), I thought the conference was solid and delivered what I expected it to. Games, games, games.
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Originally Posted by chess
Other than Titanfall, which looked amazing, and maybe Dead Rising, Xbone conference failed pretty hard IMO.
  • Rehash games (Halo/Forza)
  • Quick Time Events (really?)
  • $500 price tag (at least $100 of which is Kinect features you don't care about)
  • Nothing to address concerns about DRM
  • Nothing to address concerns about privacy
It's smart. Sequels sell, new IPs are generally not great system sellers. I missed the QTEs. It was an okay presentation, got to see what the visuals looked like.

It's E3, it was bound to focus strictly on the games. They need to get a formal info sheet out there to stop the speculation.

I would say it's the PS4s to take at this point but I expect it to be pretty much the same unless they focus some time on Gaikai. I really do hate the controller design though.
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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind
I didn't even watch the MS press conference But judging from the list of what was shown, the only thing I would be interested in checking out is Killer Instinct.
The one thing I'm sure of from that press conference is that Killer Instinct will not be a great game. It'll sell a bunch of copies based on nostalgia, but that's about it.
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Was anyone expecting Microsoft to completely address all of the issues people are complaining about? I was expecting games and I think they did a decent job in showing what the system has to offer.
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The one thing I'm sure of from that press conference is that Killer Instinct will not be a great game. It'll sell a bunch of copies based on nostalgia, but that's about it.
Although I tend to a agree, how are you "sure" that it's going to suck?
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So two of Microsoft's big non-Xbox1 announcements are a newly redesigned version of the 360 that's only 4 GB and the fact that you can now download two free games per month, each of which is larger than 4 GB, if you're a Gold member. Am I the only one that finds this kind of hilarious?
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CNET posted that XBone games were going to cost $100. Turned out to be false, thank god. There is no way I'd pay $100 for a video game.
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So two of Microsoft's big non-Xbox1 announcements are a newly redesigned version of the 360 that's only 4 GB and the fact that you can now download two free games per month, each of which is larger than 4 GB, if you're a Gold member. Am I the only one that finds this kind of hilarious?
Well, they have a redesigned 250 GB version too.
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100 dollars for a game and DRM out the ass would be the end of a console. Even at 60 bucks a game tighter DRM will make most gamers more hesitant with their money.
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Although I tend to a agree, how are you "sure" that it's going to suck?
It's made by Rare, it's a fighting game, and its source material wasn't nearly as good as folks remember.

But I'll backtrack to pretty sure.
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Originally Posted by chess
It's made by rare
This is all you had to say, which is sad.
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Originally Posted by maxfisher
So two of Microsoft's big non-Xbox1 announcements are a newly redesigned version of the 360 that's only 4 GB and the fact that you can now download two free games per month, each of which is larger than 4 GB, if you're a Gold member. Am I the only one that finds this kind of hilarious?

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I'm still not sold on streaming games from a cloud. I don't see how there isn't going to be lag.
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Originally Posted by maxfisher
So two of Microsoft's big non-Xbox1 announcements are a newly redesigned version of the 360 that's only 4 GB and the fact that you can now download two free games per month, each of which is larger than 4 GB, if you're a Gold member. Am I the only one that finds this kind of hilarious?
That they didn't talk more about the 360? During an E3 year when a new console is coming out? No, I'm surprised they mentioned the 360 at all.
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Well, they have a redesigned 250 GB version too.
Ahh, less funny then. The only story I could find with details & pricing was on IGN and made it sound like they were only offering two 4 GB versions, with and without Kinect.
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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind
This is all you had to say, which is sad.
Well, I remember when Rare games became Xbox exclusives and they pretty much did nothing for the regular Xbox. I haven't followed much of this past generation, but are they only a joke now? I had thought most of the N64 Rare developers went over to Eidos anyway.
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That they didn't talk more about the 360? During an E3 year when a new console is coming out? No, I'm surprised they mentioned the 360 at all.
No, that two of the big 360 announcements were free games and a newly redesigned version that couldn't let you download them. But it looks like the latter isn't entirely accurate and was just sloppy IGN reporting.
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Well, I remember when Rare games became Xbox exclusives and they pretty much did nothing for the regular Xbox. I haven't followed much of this past generation, but are they only a joke now? I had thought most of the N64 Rare developers went over to Eidos anyway.
They've been terrible ever since the xbox days, so it's not new. idk what companies the N64 Rare team are with, but I know most of them left before being bought by MS.
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Originally Posted by mcfly
Well, I remember when Rare games became Xbox exclusives and they pretty much did nothing for the regular Xbox. I haven't followed much of this past generation, but are they only a joke now? I had thought most of the N64 Rare developers went over to Eidos anyway.
Any success they had in the SNES/N64 eras can be largely attributed to oversight by Nintendo.

When Microsoft overpaid for Rare, Nintendo basically turned Retro into Rare for the Metroid Prime series and DKC returns, all four of which are amazing games.
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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind
They've been terrible ever since the xbox days, so it's not new. idk what companies the N64 Rare team are with, but I know most of them left before being bought by MS.
I had a GameCube and PS2 during the Sixth Generation of systems, but I remember when TimeSplitters came out for PS2 it was being touted as a game by the guys who brought you GoldenEye. There was an article of sorts in EGM about Rare splitting up before being sold to Microsoft and a lot of guys had gone over to Eidos.

This was 12 or so years ago, though, so I'm sure most of that has changed.
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Originally Posted by chess
Other than Titanfall, which looked amazing, and maybe Dead Rising, Xbone conference failed pretty hard IMO.
  • Rehash games (Halo/Forza)
  • Quick Time Events (really?)
  • $500 price tag (at least $100 of which is Kinect features you don't care about)
  • Nothing to address concerns about DRM
  • Nothing to address concerns about privacy

CheapyD from cheapassgamer just said he thought it was one of their best conferences ever. lol Such a fanboy.

To be fair, a lot of ppl were bitching that the first reveal didn't show any games so I can see why they made the conference completely about games.

Unfortunately, I didn't find the games particularly exciting. I think world building games are overrated and very niche. I don't want to have to build my game. That's the developer's job.
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Originally Posted by maxfisher
No, that two of the big 360 announcements were free games and a newly redesigned version that couldn't let you download them. But it looks like the latter isn't entirely accurate and was just sloppy IGN reporting.
Didn't they announce World of Tanks for the 360 or is that for Xbox One?


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