Dying Indie Developer seeks crowd funding
#76
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That wasn't the point of the analogy. The analogy is in reference to the fact that you brought up the Alison Theus example and deemed it comparable to this one because it had the same premise: asking for money for surgery. Ignoring all other more important considerations, you questioned why people are demanding details in this case and not in the other one.
And, again, ignoring the Extra Credits fundraiser, there's plenty other health-related fundraisers on IndieGogo, all with varying levels of details and "proof."
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects?fi...ategory=Health
Here's one where practically no information is given, just the name of the individual and that he needs help:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-few-bucks-for-mike
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Here's one where practically no information is given, just the name of the individual and that he needs help:
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-few-bucks-for-mike
http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/a-few-bucks-for-mike
#80
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And there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. I want to believe as well. Anyway, I know most of you are skeptical as hell, but interesting tidbit, I went on a limb and sent her a friend request on Facebook a few days ago, and she accepted today. Interesting girl from her posts on there. She is troubled, that's bloody obvious, but I don't know, its doesn't seem to be as cut and dry as one would think.
Anyway, still no money back from indiegogo. They got til wednesday as far as I'm concerned.
Anyway, still no money back from indiegogo. They got til wednesday as far as I'm concerned.
#81
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Odd that there has been no update to this. The Destructoid editor says he got the true story, but won't report it:
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Cai...ment-859224409
I wish I could tell you the details of the post. Please trust that I did do the reporting, once our readers stated suspicion. I spoke to many parties and got the full story, as soon as humanly possible, to the point where it's all I did for two days and fell behind in my editorial duties. Unfortunately, I can't share that publicly (nor will I share it with anyone privately, I'm sorry). It's for the benefit of everyone if we move on and look at this as something to learn from.
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That doesn't prove anything!
#83
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Odd that there has been no update to this. The Destructoid editor says he got the true story, but won't report it:
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Cai...ment-859224409
http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Cai...ment-859224409
Project Zombiod has decided to give the money they had raised (that IndieGogo refunded) to Médecins Sans Frontières:
http://projectzomboid.com/blog/index...nation-update/
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Probably the real story was told off the record, or there wasn't enough verifiable facts to avoid a possible libel suit if he tried to tell the story second hand.
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Re: Dying Indie Developer seeks crowd funding
Originally Posted by destructoid
I wish I could tell you the details of the post. Please trust that I did do the reporting, once our readers stated suspicion. I spoke to many parties and got the full story, as soon as humanly possible, to the point where it's all I did for two days and fell behind in my editorial duties. Unfortunately, I can't share that publicly (nor will I share it with anyone privately, I'm sorry). It's for the benefit of everyone if we move on and look at this as something to learn from.
#88
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This has been a wakeup call to us all, and we are discussing new policies that will prevent us from running into these problems in the future.
#89
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Seems like something sites that fund these ventures should be the ones verifying, to me.
#90
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That said, Indiegogo has some measures in place, and one could argue that such measures worked in this case, as the campaign was stopped and the money refunded. Indiegogo had also previously ended a campaign that had been started by a friend, and had suspended this campaign earlier, although they later let it continue for unknown reasons.
http://www.indiegogo.com/trust
Our team of anti-fraud experts focuses on keeping our community safe. They’re responsible for developing new features to create a more secure and trustworthy environment for you. Our anti-fraud systems constantly monitor the performance of our product, helping us identify and eliminate fraudulent activity and scams...
When you’re contemplating contributing to a campaign, consider all of the information available to decide whether and how much to give. It’s important to consider the strategic plan behind the campaign and to understand how your contribution will be used. Get familiar with the team running the campaign. Check the Funders tab on the campaign page to see if others have already contributed. If a campaign is marked as “Verified Nonprofit,” you can be sure that your contribution will go directly to the nonprofit organization identified.
When you’re contemplating contributing to a campaign, consider all of the information available to decide whether and how much to give. It’s important to consider the strategic plan behind the campaign and to understand how your contribution will be used. Get familiar with the team running the campaign. Check the Funders tab on the campaign page to see if others have already contributed. If a campaign is marked as “Verified Nonprofit,” you can be sure that your contribution will go directly to the nonprofit organization identified.
Kickstarter, by comparison, is considerably more lax:
http://www.kickstarter.com/help/faq/kickstarter+basics
Does Kickstarter screen projects before they launch?
Only a quick review to make sure they meet our project guidelines. Kickstarter does not investigate a creator's ability to complete their project. Backers ultimately decide the validity and worthiness of a project by whether they decide to fund it. See the Accountability section for more...
Kickstarter does not guarantee projects or investigate a creator's ability to complete their project. On Kickstarter, backers (you!) ultimately decide the validity and worthiness of a project by whether they decide to fund it...
Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.
Only a quick review to make sure they meet our project guidelines. Kickstarter does not investigate a creator's ability to complete their project. Backers ultimately decide the validity and worthiness of a project by whether they decide to fund it. See the Accountability section for more...
Kickstarter does not guarantee projects or investigate a creator's ability to complete their project. On Kickstarter, backers (you!) ultimately decide the validity and worthiness of a project by whether they decide to fund it...
Kickstarter's Terms of Use require creators to fulfill all rewards of their project or refund any backer whose reward they do not or cannot fulfill. (This is what creators see before they launch.) We crafted these terms to create a legal requirement for creators to follow through on their projects, and to give backers a recourse if they don't. We hope that backers will consider using this provision only in cases where they feel that a creator has not made a good faith effort to complete the project and fulfill.
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Re: Dying Indie Developer seeks crowd funding
Yes, I did read the comments. They say, "We've been talking about this since the IndieGoGo story and are going to be way more selective of what we promote going in the future." That's not my point. If they claim to be reporters, they should be investigating the claim, not deciding on whether they "promote" it or not. If they want to be taken seriously, it's time for them to put on their big boy/girl journalism pants and do the work necessary. Reporting/journalism isn't regurgitating press releases or posting nifty things they find on the internet.
#93
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Yes, I did read the comments. They say, "We've been talking about this since the IndieGoGo story and are going to be way more selective of what we promote going in the future." That's not my point. If they claim to be reporters, they should be investigating the claim, not deciding on whether they "promote" it or not.
#94
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Welp, just for the few folks who did contribute...it took a paypal claim but I got my $20 back. It was resolved fairly quickly too, just a couple of days. Might as well, since the person isn't getting the money anyway.
#95
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I don't know if this is a hoax or not, but she just made a post about killing herself live on Twitch tv
http://gyazo.com/70679d3a2f28b7e61d5fa6741bfeae36
an attention whore to the end.
http://gyazo.com/70679d3a2f28b7e61d5fa6741bfeae36
an attention whore to the end.
#98
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Re: Dying Indie Developer seeks crowd funding
Yeah, on Facebook she's been making random very occasional comments about not wanting to live anymore, I can't do it, etc within the last couple of weeks. Very disconcerting, very sad too. She's seeking attention, that's for sure, but if she did go ahead and end it, its a tragedy regardless whether she had metal poisoning or not. It's a shame, darn shame.
#100
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Allistair Pinsof of Destructoid has written a post claiming that Chloe is transgender, and was raising the funds for sex reassignment surgery. He claims she had threatened suicide if he told anyone, which is why he kept quiet until now.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rk99tp
Allistair caused a minor controversy when some initial tweets from him referred to Chloe as a "he," and said that SRS wasn't a "vital" procedure
http://storify.com/pixiemania/this-i...tm_source=t.co
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1rk99tp
Allistair caused a minor controversy when some initial tweets from him referred to Chloe as a "he," and said that SRS wasn't a "vital" procedure
http://storify.com/pixiemania/this-i...tm_source=t.co



