It's for the statistic, even if nobody uses it. Did you not read my post above? It's still a bullet point feature even if it's only a minority that will purchase an Xbox One specifically for the Kinect. That minority is not your core or hardcore gaming communities, but your families who have children or those who might enjoy Kinect games (like my wife) over the standard fare. It also gives Microsoft an upper hand to lure in developers who want to take advantage of the Kinect and its API. Who knows, someone might be developing that Killer App for it as we speak.

As I've said before, I would bet money that Microsoft will cut the price on the console before they cut the Kinect. They've invested too much into it to kill it like Sony did the Eye.

Who knows, at Gamescon they can announce a $399 price point while Major Nelson gives Sony the middle finger.

You mean self-publishing for EVERYONE.

Yoshida's Twitter feed isn't creating headlines or getting Sony attention from media outlets. So, yes, they're still silent. Sony may have won E3, but they're not doing enough to maintain the lead while Microsoft is surprising and delighting every day.

Also, for everybody, it's Gamescom.

Lol, that would be game over if they dropped the price by $100. I wish, but not going to happen.

Seems like the answer would be pretty quick and simple.

They can take the hit on the price whereas Sony can't. That's the advantage Microsoft has, but I doubt they're willing to do that based upon the losses they've suffered this year already.

The only "won" E3 by saying their console plays used games and does not connect online, which are now irrelevant. They still do not really have any exciting launch titles, let alone anything announced for the future. MS on the other hand has 2-3 (Forza, Dead Rising, KI) big name day one exclusives, with even more announced (Halo, Kinect Sports, Titanfall)

A distinction without a difference.

I'll grant that all this flailing around is getting MS a lot of press, but I think you're overestimating how good it is for the brand and how much it penetrates outside of the enthusiast press. From a corporate perspective, it looks like they don't know what they are doing. Unless your position is that this was all some kind of guerrilla marketing strategy from the start, there is no way to spin all of this into a good thing. It is absolutely a good thing for Xbox gamers though.

Meanwhile, Sony hasn't had to change a single policy and have done nothing to upset consumers at any point. They can just sit back on their big pile of upcoming game announcements, unless you think the four (maybe five) teams at Naughty Dog and SSM have no plans for PS4. Most importantly, they were FCC certified on July 23 and are presumably in full production. You know who's ultimately going to win this year? Whoever can produce more units and get them to retail, because everything that isn't a WiiU will sell through.

Ok, that was awesome.

Wii U...

Wii U please not buy our crap and buy an Xbox One or PS4?

Wii U Wii U, Wii don't need U.

They were FCC certified? That's real fucking fantastic considering any company can get a product FCC certified and tell them to wait 30 days before publicly posting documents on it.

And you say you're not a Sony fanboy.

While I am very happy with the kinect news, I'm still concerned about Microsoft doing a 180 a year or so after their new console is released in regards to the DRM, Kinect, etc.... Hey, it's M$ I'll have to buy at my own risk.

So basically they did everything right by backtracking on most things they announced at E3. Meanwhile, Sony got a standing ovation by basically saying, "we're not doing what those guys are doing" at E3, which means they didn't have to make similar announcements afterwards. I hardly call that a win for MS, just a lot of scrambling (plus Mattrick wasn't fired, right?). And the last thing they could do to get full buy in is... drop their price to equal that of their competitors?

I am a bit surprised by the Sony silence, though, I wonder what they're targeting for announcements?

If, say, the Zapper or ROB were bundled in with every NES at launch for a higher price, would we have called that a win, or would they still be collecting dust shortly after launch? I realize that a light gun and a "robot" aren't the same as the Kinect, but at least the previous version left a lot of buyers remorse in a lot of people, myself included. We'll see how much time and care developers will put into Kinect-only functionality for cross platform games that's not directly paid for by Microsoft... after all, making one version of their game better than another version will just result in them cannibalizing sales from themselves, right? Why not just make them the same?

Only one raging here is you, bro.

I'm saying both companies will sell every single unit they get to market this year. All of them. That seems to me like a very non-fanboy position to take.

Please tell me more about why MS would ask the FCC to sit on their certification, and a source for the 30-day bit would be nice as well.

I don't think we will ever really know (at least not anytime soon) whether what Sony announced at E3 is what they had planned all along - or if they had similar policies as MS set-up and quickly decided to change that after the poor reception MS got.

They are sticking to the plan and have chosen not to respond to anything Microsoft does. If their focus groups and or preorder numbers dictate otherwise, they will change course, but for now they are well positioned.

I also strongly suspect announcements from some combination of Naughty Dog, SSM, Media Molecule, and Housemarque at Gamescom, and the only Japanese game they've announced is Knack, so they'll have something for Tokyo as well.

Also, there is the small matter of $100, which was really why they won E3. DRM policies got them applause, but $399 put butts in seats.

Do you really believe that a multi-billion dollar international corporation makes decisions that way? Independent of their board or shareholders? Really?

Hell yeah... if they had similar policies to MS and they did not make consumers happy at all, you bet your booty they would do the opposite.... otherwise they should just go out of business.

Do you really think a division of a multi-billion dollar international corporation would commit Hara-Kiri because they didn't have a chance to ask permission first.

May 22.....

http://www.joystiq.com/2013/05/22/xb...ct-connection/


Xbox One requires Kinect connection

Owners of the original Kinect on Xbox 360 had the ability to unplug the device, but that won't be the case with the ever-vigilant and always-listening Xbox One version, Corporate VP of Microsoft Studios Phil Spencer told Joystiq.

"Kinect has to be connected to Xbox One," Spencer said. "That, from a creator standpoint, I love, because I like to have a common platform that I can target."

Spencer did take the opportunity to note that just because Kinect is always connected now, it doesn't mean Xbox One games are going to integrate physical activity at every opportunity.

"What I'm seeing in the creation process is more subtle uses of Kinect. I think when Kinect first came out on 360 everybody felt if you weren't doing jumping jacks in the middle of the room it wasn't a Kinect game," he said, going on to describe various everyday uses, such as watching television, for the product.

For the second time today...

Point?

I have to say, MS has done a great job of whittling down my list of objections. However, the $100 price difference for a toy I will never use, combined with the price hike in Xbox Live and putting everything behind the pay wall, makes me feel like waiting. I've been loving PS+ and see no reason to pay for MS as well. If, down the line, MS has a great collection of exclusives that are must owns, and a price drop or Kinect-less version comes out, I'll consider one.

Not sure why you are posting that since it's an old article...

http://kotaku.com/xbox-one-wont-actu...oso-1113142909

So... I have left you speechless?


You're Welcome!

Price hike where?

The previous price hike is now relevant to me because my subscription is coming to an end.