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Michael Corvin 07-01-13 08:20 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11750747)
Sweet, a good reason to have the new Kinect:

https://twitter.com/notwen/status/351835961329586177

No more entering 25 digit codes!

Definitely good compared to entering codes on the console.

Marginal compared to typing codes into xbox.com.

discostu1337 07-01-13 08:37 PM

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Agreed, but a neat feature regardless. However, since EA says they are getting rid of Online Passes, how many codes realistically come with games? I think everything I entered was Online Pass crap. If Gamestop starts printing QR codes for DLC and pre-order bonuses, or MS uses them on MS Points/XB Live cards, I could see it being utilized a lot more.

Music 07-01-13 08:57 PM

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But MS "Points" are going away. :)

pinata242 07-01-13 09:42 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 11750788)
Definitely good compared to entering codes on the console.

Marginal compared to typing codes into xbox.com.

I've been saying this needed to be there in the Kinect 1.0 days, from the beginning and especially when "online codes" were commonplace.

That thing was always capable of scanning a QR code. It was just lazy to not do it natively.

I wonder how much they'll be used now. It would make sense in the digital-only distribution model they wanted originally. Like you walk into a B&M retailer and active a QR code that you take home and scan. Or scan from your smartphone and it's waiting for you when you get home since, you know, it's always online and with a passive voltage for power on via voice.

Matthew Chmiel 07-01-13 10:37 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11750805)
Agreed, but a neat feature regardless. However, since EA says they are getting rid of Online Passes, how many codes realistically come with games? I think everything I entered was Online Pass crap. If Gamestop starts printing QR codes for DLC and pre-order bonuses, or MS uses them on MS Points/XB Live cards, I could see it being utilized a lot more.

Recently?

When I bought the limited edition of Halo 4 and the hardened edition of Call of Duty: Black Ops II, I had to enter at least five codes per game to redeem all of the extra content.

chess 07-01-13 11:09 PM

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If MS did a fire sale on Live Arcade after the Xbone launches, I'd buy a used 360 just for that. There are probably 20 games I really want on Live Arcade...and something like 4 on disk.

Live arcade games can be run from a USB drive, right?

Groucho 07-01-13 11:13 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11750927)
Live arcade games can be run from a USB drive, right?

Absolutely.

Match 07-02-13 12:41 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
With Don Mattrick out, is it time for J.Allard’s return?
http://www.fluxley.com/400/with-don-...llards-return/

chess 07-02-13 05:42 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 11750929)
Absolutely.

Sorry, meant to post that in the Live Arcade thread.

But specifically, I could buy an Arcade 360, sans proprietary hard drive, and use a 16-32gb thumb drive [edit: or an external USB HDD] for all of my Live Arcade games...even presumably big ones like Shadow Complex?

Dan 07-02-13 08:57 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chuckd21 (Post 11749997)
On that subject, D4 is designed from the ground up for the next generation of Kinect. Players mimic on-screen gestures during action sequences and can simply speak their chosen option during conversations. How seamlessly this works remains to be seen; we’ve only been privy to a video of the game in action to date and haven’t been able to go hands-on. Swery explicitly made the point, however, that D4 is designed to be played sitting down. He also said that the Xbox One controller would be supported for players that aren’t interested in using Kinect.

:up:
This means I'll be more than willing to "try" the Kinect controls for this game, but if I hate it, I can bust out the standard controller. Can't complain about that.

fumanstan 07-02-13 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan (Post 11751170)
:up:
This means I'll be more than willing to "try" the Kinect controls for this game, but if I hate it, I can bust out the standard controller. Can't complain about that.

I'm sure someone will find a way to complain :p

K&AJones 07-02-13 09:33 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Might be more behind Don Mattrick's exit after all...

Report: Mattrick's Xbox Exodus Spurred By Upcoming Reorganization

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...anization.aspx

Dan 07-02-13 09:43 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 11751218)
I'm sure someone will find a way to complain :p

;)
"What do you mean I have the choice between the Kinect and the controller?!? How am I supposed to decide!?"


Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11751225)
Might be more behind Don Mattrick's exit after all...

Report: Mattrick's Xbox Exodus Spurred By Upcoming Reorganization

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...anization.aspx

Already posted (not the same article... but same story). Good work.

Rumour is he was asked to be head of "hardware" but wanted more. Ballmer said no, Mattrick left for Zynga, where he could be CEO. This is not at all unlike Sinofsky's departure last year... a guy who felt entitled to be at the top, but didn't deserve it, and worked terribly with others in the organization.

chess 07-02-13 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11751225)
Might be more behind Don Mattrick's exit after all...

Report: Mattrick's Xbox Exodus Spurred By Upcoming Reorganization

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...anization.aspx

"Xbox president shown the door two weeks after disastrous E3 to be the mayor of Farmville."

If that was part of Microsoft's reorganization plan, then those guys truly have no clue what they are doing. You either do that before the console is announced or not at all because the visual for both gamers and shareholders is terrible.

orangecrush 07-02-13 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11750567)
Since E3, Microsoft has:
  1. Reversed their stance of the console being "always online."
  2. Stripped the console and games of its DRM.
  3. Removed the region lock off the console.
  4. Fired Mattrick.
They've done more in a month than Sony did in two years since the PS3 announcement during E3 2006. Microsoft is at least being aware of their perception from consumers, but most importantly, the gaming community. Sony has a lot to do with that as whatever Microsoft's doing, they're doing the opposite.

There is still plenty of DRM in both the consoles and their games.

Matthew Chmiel 07-02-13 03:12 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11751225)
Might be more behind Don Mattrick's exit after all...

Report: Mattrick's Xbox Exodus Spurred By Upcoming Reorganization

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/a...anization.aspx

As I stated yesterday, the reorganization will be used to cover up Mattrick's firing. You don't have the man lead two large unveilings of the console only to have him jump ship weeks later. Shit went down, Ballmer was pissed, and heads had to roll. With Ballmer taking over the role until a replacement is found (another sign that Mattrick was let go), I think Ballmer is (hopefully) smart enough to stay out of the spotlight. Because if he does, the ship will be nuked right from fucking orbit.

Phil Spencer taking over Mattrick's role is a smart idea, especially as he was one of the few people who didn't come off like a complete chode during the debacle. Bringing J. Allard back into the fold and have him take over is the best idea.

RichC2 07-02-13 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11751778)
As I stated yesterday, the reorganization will be used to cover up Mattrick's firing. You don't have the man lead two large unveilings of the console only to have him jump ship weeks later. Shit went down, Ballmer was pissed, and heads had to roll. With Ballmer taking over the role until a replacement is found (another sign that Mattrick was let go), I think Ballmer is (hopefully) smart enough to stay out of the spotlight. Because if he does, the ship will be nuked right from fucking orbit.

Phil Spencer taking over Mattrick's role is a smart idea, especially as he was one of the few people who didn't come off like a complete chode during the debacle. Bringing J. Allard back into the fold and have him take over is the best idea.

They must have known he was going to fail hard (the restructuring has been public knowledge since before E3). I'm inclined to believe Microsoft has its head too far up its ass to realize how toxic Mattrick really was.

Matthew Chmiel 07-02-13 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11751806)
They must have known he was going to fail hard (the restructuring has been public knowledge since before E3). I'm inclined to believe Microsoft has its head too far up its ass to realize how toxic Mattrick really was.

How toxic Mattrick was? Ballmer has been sinking the ship since Gates left. Microsoft has always been a bunch of arrogant and cocky bastards. The Xbox and the 360 have been two of their only successful hardware releases. Microsoft thinking devices like the iPhone and iPad being a "phase" is what should've sealed Balmer's death years ago. Instead, they've been stuck playing catch up. Now with the One launch, they're playing catch up with Sony.

The Xbox is one of Microsoft's few successes in the consumer market. Microsoft at least will not go down without a fight because they/Ballmer can't afford another failure.

LosingMyMind 07-02-13 06:47 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by pinata242 (Post 11750861)
I've been saying this needed to be there in the Kinect 1.0 days, from the beginning and especially when "online codes" were commonplace.

That thing was always capable of scanning a QR code. It was just lazy to not do it natively.

That's true. Hell, even the 3DS got a QR reader patched in.

I wonder why they held back on it. To add it in as a feature for Kinect 2 and make it seem better than it is?

LosingMyMind 07-02-13 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11750786)
They're not dedicated servers though; at least, the physical servers underlining the cloud aren't dedicated to one task or game. This means the developers can scale their multiplayer servers based on demand, without having to worry about owning too many, or too few, servers.

If it was just that, it'd be cool. However, MS has detailed other ways of utilizing the cloud computing, such as enhancing graphics in games:
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2013/0...oud-computing/

I don't buy any of the increased graphics due to the cloud; but if it was true, it sounds like a better feature for PC games. To give people with a worse system a closer experience to those with higher end PC's.

Matthew Chmiel 07-03-13 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LosingMyMind (Post 11752059)
To give people with a worse system a closer experience to those with higher end PC's.

Congratulations, you just described the PS4 and Xbox One!

mattysemo247 07-03-13 08:31 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Well the new Kinect will be good for something:

Xbox One Kinect will support QR code scanning for token redemption

http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/2/4488...ken-redemption

Jay G. 07-03-13 08:37 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 11752520)
Well the new Kinect will be good for something:

Xbox One Kinect will support QR code scanning for token redemption

http://www.polygon.com/2013/7/2/4488...ken-redemption

Welcome to yesterday:

Originally Posted by discostu1337 (Post 11750747)
Sweet, a good reason to have the new Kinect:

https://twitter.com/notwen/status/351835961329586177

No more entering 25 digit codes!


Groucho 07-03-13 08:41 AM

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I would prefer to just scan it using my mobile phone, rather than being forced to buy a $100 accessory. :shrug:

mattysemo247 07-03-13 09:03 AM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Jay G. (Post 11752524)
Welcome to yesterday:

Oh well, with as much shit is in this thread now, repeating some stuff two or three times is bound to happen and probably not such a bad thing.


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