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Matthew Chmiel 06-25-13 12:50 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Vryce (Post 11743301)
That's the one thing that I'm upset about. Not everyone, for whatever reason, wants to send/receive voice chat through Kinect. It should come with a headset just as previous consoles did.

I don't agree or disagree.

What I do think is the headset that came with the 360 was a gigantic piece of shit. Everyone I know has either used the wireless option Microsoft has provided or they've gone with a third-company like Turtle Beach.

The new Kinect's mic and noise-cancellation are pretty powerful, so ideally, you don't need a headset to chat with a friend. However, for those people who actually game on multiplayer quite often, those would never use the stock headset.

chess 06-25-13 12:57 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
I'll buy that.

Are headsets at least backwards compatible with 360 (same inputs)?

Canis Firebrand 06-25-13 12:58 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11743348)
I don't agree or disagree.

What I do think is the headset that came with the 360 was a gigantic piece of shit. Everyone I know has either used the wireless option Microsoft has provided or they've gone with a third-company like Turtle Beach.

The new Kinect's mic and noise-cancellation are pretty powerful, so ideally, you don't need a headset to chat with a friend. However, for those people who actually game on multiplayer quite often, those would never use the stock headset.

True, but its a good fall back if the other headsets fail. I use the wireless headset for my gaming. But there are times that the battery dies if I play for a long time, and I switch to the stock headset that came with my 360. Its good enough in a pinch.

chess 06-25-13 01:31 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11743359)
Are headsets at least backwards compatible with 360 (same inputs)?

Nevermind:


According to IGN, current-gen gaming headsets may be useless for the Xbox One. Voice chat through headsets is dependent on connection through the controller, and since the port will be different on Xbox One controllers, gaming headset microphones will be useless. While there is the possibility of Microsoft manufacturing some sort of adapter, IGN was told that the new port on Xbox One controllers is to gain more control over the peripheral market.

"Manufacturers will not only need to develop entirely new products for the new connection standard," wrote IGN's Scott Lowe, "but use licensing and authentication protocols from Microsoft, potentially driving up costs for consumers. The licensing program could also limit the variety and competitive nature of the accessory market since all manufacturers would be required to adhere to Microsoft's terms."

When asked for comment, a Microsoft spokesperson only offered up vague details. "We are working with 3rd party headset manufacturers to create new headsets that will take full advantage of the Xbox One technology.

"We will share more details in the future."

Deftones 06-25-13 01:41 PM

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well that sucks. i assumed it, since we hadn't heard anything about the headsets, but still sucks to have them confirm it. i don't want to chat through my kinect. i usually turn up the volume fairly loud on my HT when gaming, so i don't want to have to strain to hear voices over the ingame music/sound.

RichC2 06-25-13 01:41 PM

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The Xbox 360 didn't come with a headset did it? Or Wifi. Or a HDD ($299). Or an HDMI port.

chuckd21 06-25-13 01:58 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
At least we get an HDMI cable with this one.

Brack 06-25-13 02:04 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 
Looking forward to the new system . PS fanboys saying the damage ia alrady down have thier heads up their ass. Better exclusives, better Kinect, and better controller -- a no brainer for me.

Canis Firebrand 06-25-13 02:20 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11743456)
The Xbox 360 didn't come with a headset did it? Or Wifi. Or a HDD ($299). Or an HDMI port.

The 360 came with a headset. And most came with a Hard drive. Wi-Fi didn't come in until later 360 systems. HDMI was also in later 360 systems.

RichC2 06-25-13 02:22 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Vryce (Post 11743511)
The 360 came with a headset. And most came with a Hard drive. Wi-Fi didn't come in until later 360 systems. HDMI was also in later 360 systems.

I wound up with a Core system at launch so I was going off that. No headset, no real HDD (like 512mb of storage), no wifi, no hdmi, no optical out. Can't remember if it came with the remote or not.

Consoles evolve. PS4 is putting their best foot forward, Xbox is hoping Kinect is enough.

It took them nearly 2 years to release the HDMI port, the funniest thing is the power supply has dropped from 203 W (original) to 115W (current)

Canis Firebrand 06-25-13 02:24 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11743512)
I wound up with a Core system at launch so I was going off that. No headset, no real HDD (like 512mb of storage), no wifi, no hdmi, no optical out.

That was my original system as well. Though I thought it did come with a headset, but may be remembering wrong.

I waited in line at a Walmart and got screwed out of the better system. Some kid that was in line left forever and came back just as they were starting to sell them. he claimed he left his jacket there and the stupid employees let that slide. The last system that came with the hard drive was sold to the person in front of me. I almost walked out without a system, but after waiting in line all night I bought the core system.

fujishig 06-25-13 02:25 PM

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Wait, there's gotta be a different explanation for the proprietary headset port That certainly doesn't sound like the benevolent Microsoft we've come to expect.

RichC2 06-25-13 02:28 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Vryce (Post 11743517)
That was my original system as well. Though I thought it did come with a headset, but may be remembering wrong.

I waited in line at a Walmart and got screwed out of the better system. Some kid that was in line left forever and came back just as they were starting to sell them. he claimed he left his jacket there and the stupid employees let that slide. The last system that came with the hard drive was sold to the person in front of me. I almost walked out without a system, but after waiting in line all night I bought the core system.

I could have swore it didn't come with a headset, oh well. Unless MS charges $40 or more for it I'm sure people won't care too much. Kinect as your conversation mic would be annoying.

I missed mine on launch day, found a Friday that Best Buy was getting a new shipment and wound up with the Core because I went in 10 minutes before work instead of doing an all niter. Bought the 20gb HDD separate.

Matthew Chmiel 06-25-13 02:32 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Vryce (Post 11743511)
The 360 came with a headset. And most came with a Hard drive. Wi-Fi didn't come in until later 360 systems. HDMI was also in later 360 systems.

Yes and no. For the 360?

The launch consoles in 2005:

Pro: Wireless controller, wired headset, ethernet cable, Component HD AV Cable, 20GB HD. The Pro models gained HDMI outputs after 2007.

Core: Wired controller, Composite AV Cable.

The next round of consoles in 2007 (everything post-2007 had HDMI out):

Elite: Wireless controller(s), wired headset, Composite AV Cable, 120GB/250GB HD.

Arcade: Wireless controller, Composite AV Cable, Xbox Live Arcade compilation disc, 256 - 512MB memory on board.

The second-generation consoles (the Slim) in 2010:

Non-Kinect models: Wireless controller(s), wired headset, Composite AV Cable, 250GB/320GB HD.

Kinect models: Wireless controller, Kinect, Kinect Adventures (and possible other games), three-month Live membership, 4GB memory on board.

I'm tired of this "Well, the 360 came with a headset so the One should as well!" rhetoric. Some did, others didn't. End of discussion. You want to chat with your friends? The Kinect can do that. You don't like that? Buy a wireless headset. At least MS is still providing you an option to chat and not making you purchase an add-on for the Kinect.

RichC2 06-25-13 02:34 PM

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I don't think anyone said that did they? I specifically pointed it out because my Xbox 360 didn't come with one :lol:

Went through all that, spent so much money getting it caught up with the Pro to... play Perfect Dark Zero and Call of Duty 2? Yeah that was a mistake.

At least Geometry Wars was awesome.

Draven 06-25-13 02:36 PM

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Eh, I don't use a headset for any Xbox gaming. I have a wireless Turtle Beach but it interferes with the wireless connection on my 360 Slim. Took me months to figure that out since it wasn't consistent. Once I stopped using the Turtle Beach, it never had a problem connecting again. And I had been trying to keep the TB receiver as far away from the Slim as possible but it would still interfere occasionally.

I mentioned it earlier but that was one of my hang-ups about the "always connected even for single player games" because I would use my Slim for single player while I was trying to figure out what was going on with my connection. I'd hate for internet problems to keep me from doing ANYTHING with my brand-new system.

Canis Firebrand 06-25-13 02:37 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11743530)
I don't think anyone said that did they? I specifically pointed it out because my Xbox 360 didn't come with one :lol:

I did... I don't see it as an unreasonable request since it was included in some of the 360 console iterations. How much trouble would it have been for MS to include it in the XB1 package? Even if it might not be used by many, its a nice fallback or quick way to chat without needing Kinect, esp if headsets are hard to find around system launch. But apparently I've broken some console discussion rule. I'll bow out.

Matthew Chmiel 06-25-13 02:39 PM

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What Microsoft needed to do was follow Sony's lead and use Bluetooth for wireless headsets and not three variations of WiFi.

That is one of a few beefs I have with the console.

Shagrath 06-25-13 02:52 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11743538)
What Microsoft needed to do was follow Sony's lead and use Bluetooth for wireless headsets and not three variations of WiFi.

That is one of a few beefs I have with the console.

They need three variations of WiFi though. One for each OS.

Michael Corvin 06-25-13 03:09 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by RichC2 (Post 11743225)
Look can we all just agree it's better than the Wii U solution of non-removable, non-USB?

Actually, if we're looking at non-removable batteries, the WiiU dock is where it's at. Digging up a cord to charge sucks balls. A dock is a happy medium.


Originally Posted by fujishig (Post 11743518)
Wait, there's gotta be a different explanation for the proprietary headset port That certainly doesn't sound like the benevolent Microsoft we've come to expect.

Saving the gaming industry one peripheral at a time.

Decker 06-25-13 03:17 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11743538)
What Microsoft needed to do was follow Sony's lead and use Bluetooth for wireless headsets and not three variations of WiFi.

I don't know. I used their first-party Bluetooth wireless headset thing and it crapped out on me pretty quickly. I've never gotten one of their wireless headsets to work worth a damn. Always come crawling back to the stupid wired one.

Decker 06-25-13 03:23 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by chess (Post 11743429)
"We will share more details in the future."

I believe this is the new Microsoft slogan.

Shagrath 06-25-13 03:26 PM

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Are we going to get more details on stuff before GamesCom? Seems like an awful long time to let people brew on the E3 stuff.

Music 06-25-13 03:42 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by K&AJones (Post 11743298)
Not that matters to some but the XO does not include a headset...

Xbox One does not include headset

http://www.gamespot.com/news/xbox-on...eadset-6410685


Gamers who buy an Xbox One this holiday will not find the redesigned headset in the box, Microsoft has confirmed with Ars Technica. Players will have voice options from day-one, though, in the form of the system's built in Kinect unit.

"Xbox One does not include a pack-in headset accessory," a Microsoft representative said.

Holy shit! BReaking News!!

You must not sleep! -ohbfrank-

Music 06-25-13 03:48 PM

re: Xbox One: We said WHAT at E3??
 

Originally Posted by Matthew Chmiel (Post 11743538)
What Microsoft needed to do was follow Sony's lead and use Bluetooth for wireless headsets and not three variations of WiFi.

That is one of a few beefs I have with the console.

Oh hell no... PS3 sucked in that regard for me, trying to talk to friends while playing games, only some could hear some, while others could hear others... what a cluster.


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