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Old 04-11-13 | 09:46 AM
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I look forward to never buying any of that Kinect bullshit.
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Kinect is pretty cool tech, being forced to use it would be lame.
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Adam Orth, creative director of Microsoft Studios mocking people who are complaining about requiring an internet connection to use the new XBox.

Live in an area with a unreliable connection? He asks why you're living there.

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https://twitter.com/adam_orth
Rumor is that he has been let go, aka creative has nothing for him at this time.
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Kinect is pretty cool tech, being forced to use it would be lame.

so is the new xbox using the kinect we have now or a new kinect?

I was a big supporter of the kinect when it was released. It had alot of promise, but it just turned into our Dance Central machine. It would be a mistake to force Kinect on gamers.
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so is the new xbox using the kinect we have now or a new kinect?

I was a big supporter of the kinect when it was released. It had alot of promise, but it just turned into our Dance Central machine. It would be a mistake to force Kinect on gamers.
Supposedly a "new" Kinect. I imagine it'll be smaller and wireless, especially if they're bundling it with all consoles and not making it optional (allegedly)

I bought a Kinect for dirt cheap over a year ago and still haven't plugged it in.
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Old 04-12-13 | 01:10 PM
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Can't get the original site to load, but stumbled across a couple places saying new documentation and details have been leaked at http://www.vgleaks.com/microsoft-xbox-roadmap-2013/. The gist seems to be that the BC add-on is more than that, as it can be used as a standalone 'system' to use Netflix, stream video, play XBLA games, act as an interface for your cable tv, possibly function as a DVR and do some other functions. It won't use optical media, but will have a hard drive. This piece can also be plugged into the Durango/720 to offer full 360 BC. Supposedly, the always online documentation was in reference to the add-on, not the Durango/720, and is related to the cable tv functions. Also supposedly, the Durango/720 won't do anything to block used games. Probably worth taking with an even larger grain of salt than is the norm, but it all sounds fairly positive.
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Old 04-12-13 | 01:13 PM
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Xbox Mini

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Microsoft is working hard in its new strategy for the next years.

The company wants to expand its Xbox brand with two new Xbox.

One would be next-gen, the other one would be a new redesign for Xbox 360.


Take in mind the Wii Mini, MS would like to offer something similar to Nintendo.

This cheap model would be focused as a set top box product, although you will be able to load games too, but the games should be load directly from the HDD.

This Xbox wouldn’t have disc drive.



We have received new information about the latest Xbox Roadmap.

Our source unveils new details for Durango, Xbox mini and the Microsoft strategy; moreover we don’t forget Kinect 2.0.



Xbox Mini

The “Xbox Mini” is not a 360 add-on, it is a stand alone product that contains Xbox 360 functions for gaming, and alone it is meant to compete with Apple TV.

Since it is likely it will not have a disc drive, it is being designed with “always online” in mind, and with internet being required for Live functions.

Xbox 360 Games can be played on it by purchasing Games on Demand on Xbox Live (for new purchases) or if already purchased, simply download it.

This also applies to music and movies.

To further clarify, the Durango will also have these (TV) functions, just with next-genration gaming hardware instead of Xbox 360 at a higher price.



When used with Durango, it offers connectivity with it for backwards compatibility with both disc based and On Demand games, and it’s no more different than what Sony will be doing with Gaikai for playing PS3 games on PS4, only with Xbox it will be done locally and not through the cloud.

You can control the Xbox Mini under a single interface and not have to worry about switching between devices in a single display input.



These connectivity functions cannot work with existing Xbox 360 units due to the difference in external interface. The Xbox Mini was designed for this along side Durango.



Microsoft expands its Xbox brand

Getting to the point there are going to be two console as part of the redesigned “Xbox Line” of products.

A repackaged and reoriented Xbox 360 unit and the new “Durango” gaming console, both designed to compete with more than Sony in gaming, but against Apple as well.


When the Durango (game machine) launches, it will not support backwards compatibility for 360 games out of the box.

Instead, this functionality will come from the other unit that will be networked with the Durango to provide this (not unlike the DVD add-on for the original Xbox).


The purpose of the smaller Xbox unit is to compete with Apple TV, but also provides XBLA and 360 game support which will give it an edge over Apple TV.

The rumors of “always online required” comes from the smaller Xbox unit which may not have a disc drive and like Apple TV it would require a network connection and internet to provide any real functionality.

It may be possible they will design both consoles to be stackable.



Durango itself will also always be online like any other device (correct with rumors), but it will not be a requirement to play local content and it will not prevent playing used games.

Putting in an Xbox 360 disc into Durango will prompt the user to attach the supporting device that is sold separately.

By separating the two devices and their functions it will ensure price competitiveness for both pieces of hardware.


Microsoft’s delay in announcing these products from April goes more inline with not having a physical set of devices to show (among specification updates), which should be ready by May or June when this information is officially released.



The price goal of the smaller Xbox is $149 or lower and it is likely to not have a disc drive and would require a network connection. Durango will be priced competitively according to PS4′s price.



Kinect 2.0

A different department within Xbox handles Kinect hardware and software.

The focus was more on developing and networking both consoles with Kinect more of an after thought at that point, considering dealing with it would be less of an issue even with hardware changes to the main console hardware. Kinect isn’t the primary focus.


The development kits required several pieces of hardware as to combine all “potential” hardware which may or may not be required to work with each other, which also includes the potential for any or all devices to required a network connection, which is where most of the “required” rumors are coming from.


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Old 04-12-13 | 01:26 PM
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That actually seems kind of neat to me. Obviously it sucks to have to buy new hardware just to continue to play your old 360 stuff, and its on the expensive side compared to other streaming devices like an AppleTV or Roku, but the idea of being able to detach it and use it elsewhere in the house to stream stuff on another TV and attaching it to the new XBox if you want to play old games on it seems nice.

If the standalone mini can also play XBLA games, that would make it even better.
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Old 04-12-13 | 01:56 PM
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^I've read (again, from Paul Thurrott, who has good sources) that the "mini" will be $99.
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Old 04-12-13 | 02:18 PM
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If Microsoft makes all the media features Free that's awesome.
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Old 04-12-13 | 02:20 PM
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The Kinect is nice for certain motion games, but for others I really prefer to use the controller even if they're "enabled."
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Old 04-12-13 | 02:40 PM
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I actually hope this turns out to be the case, because it sounds pretty awesome.

So if I have this mini thing plugged into my 720 and put a 360 disc in the 720's disc drive, I can play it? Yes please.

I'll buy a bundle with both components for $600 at launch.

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Old 04-12-13 | 02:54 PM
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How does the mini know I own (and can thus be allowed to download) games that don't use any kind of online pass?
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How does your Xbox know?
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Old 04-12-13 | 03:02 PM
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That actually sounds like a good solution for backwards compatibility, and it means I can mothball or sell my 360.
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How does the mini know I own (and can thus be allowed to download) games that don't use any kind of online pass?
I'm guessing people with just the mini will be limited to games they've purchased through the marketplace. If you have both the mini & 720, the 720 would read the disc, but the mini would do all the processing. Or at least that's what it sounds like.
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If it's a disc game, my guess is that you would put the disk in your 720 and it would install it on the Mini, and that you'd still have to keep the dick in your 720 for it to play.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
you'd still have to keep the dick in your 720 for it to play.
Wrong console, man.



It would be even more awesome if you could have the mini in a different room and still play 360 games as long as the disc is in the 720, as long as they're on the same network. I doubt that'll happen, though.
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Wow, this sounds pretty cool. It would free up the current system to put into another room and still be able to fly solo with the 720 on the main set.

So on the checklist of negative rumors, back compat and always online seem to be taken care of. Now comes the biggie for me, forced Kinect. As a projector user, it needs to be wireless and work in a dark setting. Pull that off and I'll probably bite on day one.
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Also will it play used games, or did I miss a confirmation on that?
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Oh yeah. That's the BIG ONE.
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From the wall of text in Mr. Musics post above "..it will not prevent playing used games.."
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Will the mini thing have a slot for a hard drive? I guess not, but it would be nice.
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Wow, this sounds pretty cool. It would free up the current system to put into another room and still be able to fly solo with the 720 on the main set.

So on the checklist of negative rumors, back compat and always online seem to be taken care of. Now comes the biggie for me, forced Kinect. As a projector user, it needs to be wireless and work in a dark setting. Pull that off and I'll probably bite on day one.
I can live with the forced Kinect if it's just an extension of what they've done this gen. That is, the majority of games act like it doesn't exist or merely use it for voice commands. If they start cramming motion controls into everything, yeah, there's no way that'll work with my projector setup and how I typically game.
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Originally Posted by Groucho
If it's a disc game, my guess is that you would put the disk in your 720 and it would install it on the Mini, and that you'd still have to keep the dick in your 720 for it to play.
This is not the first time you've made this mistake in a post here.
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