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Old 09-13-13 | 11:04 PM
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There are companies out there, legal ones, profitable ones, that literally sell you death in a stick. They say they don't, but they do, and millions gleefully hand them money. The product has no actual benefit.

A video game console made by a bunch of hardworking programmers and designers gets fucked all to hell by clueless executives and "too many cooks in the kitchen", they attempt to fix things, but I'm supposed to never forget and say fuck you MS for the rest of my life? Nope, sorry. There are bigger fights to fight than taking a stand over a video game console.

They fucked up, customers told them so, they fixed it. I'm not going to boycott something I enjoy and ridicule it until the end of time just so I can hang with the cool kids.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:06 PM
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Microsoft showed their true intention, which was to screw us, because they thought they could get away with it.
Because that makes sense. Clearly the best way to make a profit is to play chicken with your audience.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by chuckd21
There are companies out there, legal ones, profitable ones, that literally sell you death in a stick. They say they don't, but they do, and millions gleefully hand them money. The product has no actual benefit.

A video game console made by a bunch of hardworking programmers and designers gets fucked all to hell by clueless executives and "too many cooks in the kitchen", they attempt to fix things, but I'm supposed to never forget and say fuck you MS for the rest of my life? Nope, sorry. There are bigger fights to fight than taking a stand over a video game console.

They fucked up, customers told them so, they fixed it. I'm not going to boycott something I enjoy and ridicule it until the end of time just so I can hang with the cool kids.
Pretty sure you never took that stand in the first place, weren't you defending all their practices even immediately after E3?
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:09 PM
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I agree, MS tried something, customers responded, MS changed course. That's the way the free market should work. I would agree with chess' assessment if MS hadn't made the changes and were going forward with the discostu model.

The reasons I'm not buying a One at launch are: $100 more, and I don't see any compelling launch exclusives. Granted, the PS4 launch exclusives don't look like must-haves either, but I only need one console to play the multi-console titles. I'm sure I'll get a One at some point.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:10 PM
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That was this guy.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:11 PM
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Pretty sure you never took that stand in the first place, weren't you defending all their practices even immediately after E3?
I wouldn't say defending. I pointed out that what they wanted to do didn't affect me in a negative way, so personally I saw no need to slash my wrists over it via Internet forums.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:14 PM
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I wouldn't say defending. I pointed out that what they wanted to do didn't affect me in a negative way, so personally I saw no need to slash my wrists over it via Internet forums.
They didn't affect me too much either, but I was concerned with the implications those features had with how much control MS wanted to have over your gaming experience, and where it could lead in the future. So I'm glad consumers voiced their opinions.

And I don't really harbor a grudge over it either.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Supermallet
I agree, MS tried something, customers responded, MS changed course. That's the way the free market should work. I would agree with chess' assessment if MS hadn't made the changes and were going forward with the discostu model.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:18 PM
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They didn't affect me too much either, but I was concerned with the implications those features had with how much control MS wanted to have over your gaming experience, and where it could lead in the future. So I'm glad consumers voiced their opinions.

And I don't really harbor a grudge over it either.
Don't get me wrong, I wasn't 100% supportive of what they were wanting to do, especially without details. At the time my plan was going to be to use the Xbox One for first party exclusives only and I'd play everything else on the PS4.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:37 PM
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Because that makes sense. Clearly the best way to make a profit is to play chicken with your audience.
Sarcasm understood, but I do think they grossly overestimated how attached people were/are to Live...and even moreso Kinect.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:38 PM
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You're both right.
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Old 09-13-13 | 11:40 PM
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They were cocky and thought the sheep would follow the shepherd off the cliff into digital utopia.
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Old 09-14-13 | 12:52 AM
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I think you mean "digital stutopia".
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Old 09-14-13 | 12:55 AM
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You're both right.
No YOU'RE right!!!
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:16 AM
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I know we are joking about their feature that sounds like it is simply pausing the game... but I think it is something other than that.

If I can bounce out of a game to something else (even shutting down my console) and it suspends my game so I can immediately pick up in the exact same spot then that is a big deal to me. It would effectively eliminate checkpoints and shitty save systems and create a system level save anywhere.

As someone who often doesn't put in certain games because I know I won't have a chance to make it to a save point that is a huge deal.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:20 AM
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Yes, if it is indeed a full pause feature even after you turn off the system or play a different game, then that is awesome.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:26 AM
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Both consoles do exactly that.

Sony's press release from February 20:

"PS4 radically reduces the lag time between players and their content. PS4 features “suspend mode” which keeps the system in a low power state while preserving the game session. The time it takes today to boot a console and load a saved game will be a thing of the past. With PS4, gamers just hit the power button again and are promptly back playing the game at the exact point where they left off. Additionally, users can boot a variety of applications including a web browser when playing a game on PS4."
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:27 AM
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Then that is hot and a fantastic win for this generation imo.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:36 AM
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There is a good read on The Crew over at EDGE...mainly talking about the size and scope of North America which is the setting.


http://www.edge-online.com/features/...-into-reality/
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:37 AM
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Yes, it is. There is nothing like being rushed out the door while an hour or so of gameplay hangs in the balance.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:38 AM
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Then that is hot and a fantastic win for this generation imo.
Sadly, on the PS4 you have to push the PS button instead of clapping and grabbing, which is so current gen.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:38 AM
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I'm not sure it will allow you to play a different game though, just pause the current gaming side of the system.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:42 AM
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Pretty sure I read the PS4, at least, creates a save state kinda like iOS. So you can jump back to your last point in any game not just one. Not sure how the X1 will handle it.
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Old 09-14-13 | 09:43 AM
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BTW, suspend mode also works with remote play, so if you have a Vita, you can pick up instantly as well.
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Well... I would hope so!
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