PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
#4851
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
There are companies out there, legal ones, profitable ones, that literally sell you death in a stick. They say they don't, but they do, and millions gleefully hand them money. The product has no actual benefit.
A video game console made by a bunch of hardworking programmers and designers gets fucked all to hell by clueless executives and "too many cooks in the kitchen", they attempt to fix things, but I'm supposed to never forget and say fuck you MS for the rest of my life? Nope, sorry. There are bigger fights to fight than taking a stand over a video game console.
They fucked up, customers told them so, they fixed it. I'm not going to boycott something I enjoy and ridicule it until the end of time just so I can hang with the cool kids.
A video game console made by a bunch of hardworking programmers and designers gets fucked all to hell by clueless executives and "too many cooks in the kitchen", they attempt to fix things, but I'm supposed to never forget and say fuck you MS for the rest of my life? Nope, sorry. There are bigger fights to fight than taking a stand over a video game console.
They fucked up, customers told them so, they fixed it. I'm not going to boycott something I enjoy and ridicule it until the end of time just so I can hang with the cool kids.
#4852
#4853
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
There are companies out there, legal ones, profitable ones, that literally sell you death in a stick. They say they don't, but they do, and millions gleefully hand them money. The product has no actual benefit.
A video game console made by a bunch of hardworking programmers and designers gets fucked all to hell by clueless executives and "too many cooks in the kitchen", they attempt to fix things, but I'm supposed to never forget and say fuck you MS for the rest of my life? Nope, sorry. There are bigger fights to fight than taking a stand over a video game console.
They fucked up, customers told them so, they fixed it. I'm not going to boycott something I enjoy and ridicule it until the end of time just so I can hang with the cool kids.
A video game console made by a bunch of hardworking programmers and designers gets fucked all to hell by clueless executives and "too many cooks in the kitchen", they attempt to fix things, but I'm supposed to never forget and say fuck you MS for the rest of my life? Nope, sorry. There are bigger fights to fight than taking a stand over a video game console.
They fucked up, customers told them so, they fixed it. I'm not going to boycott something I enjoy and ridicule it until the end of time just so I can hang with the cool kids.
#4854
Banned by request
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
I agree, MS tried something, customers responded, MS changed course. That's the way the free market should work. I would agree with chess' assessment if MS hadn't made the changes and were going forward with the discostu model.
The reasons I'm not buying a One at launch are: $100 more, and I don't see any compelling launch exclusives. Granted, the PS4 launch exclusives don't look like must-haves either, but I only need one console to play the multi-console titles. I'm sure I'll get a One at some point.
The reasons I'm not buying a One at launch are: $100 more, and I don't see any compelling launch exclusives. Granted, the PS4 launch exclusives don't look like must-haves either, but I only need one console to play the multi-console titles. I'm sure I'll get a One at some point.
#4855
DVD Talk Hero
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
That was this guy.
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#4856
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
I wouldn't say defending. I pointed out that what they wanted to do didn't affect me in a negative way, so personally I saw no need to slash my wrists over it via Internet forums.
#4857
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
And I don't really harbor a grudge over it either.
#4858
DVD Talk Godfather
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
#4859
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
They didn't affect me too much either, but I was concerned with the implications those features had with how much control MS wanted to have over your gaming experience, and where it could lead in the future. So I'm glad consumers voiced their opinions.
And I don't really harbor a grudge over it either.
And I don't really harbor a grudge over it either.
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re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
#4861
DVD Talk Hero
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
You're both right.
#4862
DVD Talk Godfather
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
They were cocky and thought the sheep would follow the shepherd off the cliff into digital utopia.
#4863
DVD Talk Godfather & 2020 TOTY Winner
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
I think you mean "digital stutopia".
#4865
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
I know we are joking about their feature that sounds like it is simply pausing the game... but I think it is something other than that.
If I can bounce out of a game to something else (even shutting down my console) and it suspends my game so I can immediately pick up in the exact same spot then that is a big deal to me. It would effectively eliminate checkpoints and shitty save systems and create a system level save anywhere.
As someone who often doesn't put in certain games because I know I won't have a chance to make it to a save point that is a huge deal.
If I can bounce out of a game to something else (even shutting down my console) and it suspends my game so I can immediately pick up in the exact same spot then that is a big deal to me. It would effectively eliminate checkpoints and shitty save systems and create a system level save anywhere.
As someone who often doesn't put in certain games because I know I won't have a chance to make it to a save point that is a huge deal.
#4866
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
Yes, if it is indeed a full pause feature even after you turn off the system or play a different game, then that is awesome.
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re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
Both consoles do exactly that.
Sony's press release from February 20:
"PS4 radically reduces the lag time between players and their content. PS4 features “suspend mode” which keeps the system in a low power state while preserving the game session. The time it takes today to boot a console and load a saved game will be a thing of the past. With PS4, gamers just hit the power button again and are promptly back playing the game at the exact point where they left off. Additionally, users can boot a variety of applications including a web browser when playing a game on PS4."
Sony's press release from February 20:
"PS4 radically reduces the lag time between players and their content. PS4 features “suspend mode” which keeps the system in a low power state while preserving the game session. The time it takes today to boot a console and load a saved game will be a thing of the past. With PS4, gamers just hit the power button again and are promptly back playing the game at the exact point where they left off. Additionally, users can boot a variety of applications including a web browser when playing a game on PS4."
#4869
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
There is a good read on The Crew over at EDGE...mainly talking about the size and scope of North America which is the setting.
http://www.edge-online.com/features/...-into-reality/
http://www.edge-online.com/features/...-into-reality/
#4870
DVD Talk Legend
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
Yes, it is. There is nothing like being rushed out the door while an hour or so of gameplay hangs in the balance.
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#4872
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
I'm not sure it will allow you to play a different game though, just pause the current gaming side of the system.
#4873
DVD Talk Godfather
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
Pretty sure I read the PS4, at least, creates a save state kinda like iOS. So you can jump back to your last point in any game not just one. Not sure how the X1 will handle it.
#4875
DVD Talk Hall of Fame
re: PS4 Pre-Release Thread: No MP3 for You! (11/15/2013)
Well... I would hope so!




Clearly the best way to make a profit is to play chicken with your audience.