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How is that an excuse? Some of these look nothing like what Nintendo displayed. Prototypes or not, these don't look worth $5 let alone $13.

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Hence them being prototypes (clearly labeled).

They are made from different material. They are toys and meant to be picked up and played. How the hell would half of these figures stay attached to the bases with the poses they have?

If you don't think they are worth $5 you clearly have not seen Disney Infinity. Those look like garbage. Skylander's look decent enough.

Remember. Toys. They are not expensive statues. They are meant to be played with.

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No shit. That's why I said that in my initial reply. :lol:

Nintendo is a company of quality. These things (which we still don't know much about apparently) don't represent that.

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Good quality and meant to be played with are not mutually exclusive. There are many, many toys out there that pull off both in the same or even lower price range.

Also, how are these 'meant to be played with?' They're mini statues. They have zero points of articulation.

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Nintendo made money last quarter. Not dead yet! Also, total Wii U sales over 7 million now.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/...but-still-slow

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Yep, 4.5 billion in the bank and 9.7 billion in assets.

They are so going to pull a Sega any day now....

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I just wish they'd make a normal game console again. I don't need tablet controllers or motion controls.

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It is a normal console. Few games require use of the GamePad besides for displaying maps. The Pro Controller is decent (I've used it very little, I find the GamePad to be nice) They are not going back. I'm sure their next console will have those features even more implementned.

I'd bring up other gimmicky features from other consoles, but nah.

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Worldwide, especially in Japan, the U is doing okay - Xbox is pretty much dead in Japan.

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I wish they would release a next gen console ;)

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I wish the game pad was completely optional. As in, I would never have to use it again.

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... ;)

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People complained about the gimmicky features on other consoles too. You mentioning that few games require the GamePad just reinforces the point that some folks would rather do without it completely, or make it optional.

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That's too logical of a response.

I'd like to see Gizmo say one legitimately negative thing about the Wii U. There are a lot of valid complaints in this thread and he's tried to rationalize every single one of them.
I'm really enjoying what I've played so far on the system but this pretty much sums up my feelings. It'd be nice for them to garner some 3rd party support back.

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The simple fact that every time I play Mario Kart, I have to pause the game at the start of a race, to turn motion control off the wiimote, instead of it being a setting I can control in options, shows me Nintendo still focuses on the gimmicks.

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They all focus on the gimmicks, though. MSFT only recently caved on the kinect stuff. Most of the updates the consoles are getting are for non-core-gaming features. The real downside to the WiiU is the lack of power compared to the current gen, so ports aren't coming over... as others have said the pro controller is more than functional, and the tablet controller is not shoehorned into everything (though you still have to buy it).

I don't think it's going to get any better. Wasn't the Nintendo president talking about a new non-gaming system focused on health and quality of life or something like that a few months ago?

On a side note, I preordered Bayonetta 2 for in store pickup at Best Buy. I wanted to cancel that order and buy it in store to take advantage of the in-store-only Gamers club deal, but I went to the WiiU section and it was pretty bare. No Bayonetta 2, no Hyrule Warriors, not even Mario Kart. Ugh. It was similar to the Vita section...

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From just the other day...

http://www.polygon.com/2014/10/29/71...-sleep-monitor

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Few games use it but it's still the main control pad for the system. It'd be like the Xbox One coming with a Kinect, but no controller, that's available separately.

The thing with Mario Kart needs to get patched.

Regardless, Nintendo continues to make small strides in the right direction, but I'd still love for them to make a console that was actually competitive with the other ones on the market, and without some gimmicky controller (the PS4 touch pad was bad enough, thankfully the controller overall is a huge step up from the previous iteration.) The whole Wii U controller setup is kind of a cluster cuss.

What's sad is I praised the hell out of the Wii U control tab when I first got one, then what drew me to it turned to hate. I'm going to make a terrible husband one day.

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I don't know, I don't mind Nintendo having a completely different platform... I mostly lament the lack of 3rd party games, but as the 3DS shows (another system with a totally unnecessary gimmick... heck, even the dual screen gimmick largely isn't needed), 3rd parties will get onboard if sales are great.

The problem I have with the PS4 and the One is that they are, for my purposes, exactly the same, barring an exclusive here or there.

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The Wii sold a ton, but 3rd party support was rough. I think the relative lack of power hurts a lot; I think Nintendo is hurt by the current state of the gaming market where publishers are looking for big hits and maximizing sales, so targeting a multiplatform XBox/PS4 release is far more worth the risk of funding a game then tailoring something to the Wii U which is now not only weaker, but a different architecture.

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Yeah, I meant game sales... :)

Still, you'd think with the cost of games these days, smaller developers who don't want to spend all that money on latest gen graphics would go for the underdog, but the console was suffering for so long that I'm not sure that was feasible. But you look at the DS and 3DS, and they were graphically inferior to the PSP and Vita.

But that's what I'm talking about, if Nintendo made a third system, where people would just port games that are exactly the same as the other two, what's the point? They'd have to presumably spend a ton on R&D just for equivalency? Can you tell I kinda regret getting a PS4 and One at launch, and that I've been spending more time on the WiiU? :)

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As someone who is working on a complete Wii game collection this is most definitely not true. There are more third party Wii games then make up the entire 360 and PS3 libraries.

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Rough is correct though. The Wii unfortunately wound up as a dumping ground a majority of the time, though I'm sure someone out there would like to collect the Cold Stone game.

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I know there are some Nintendo fans here that like to proudly boast that they don't care about all those other games and the Nintendo first party games are all they need, but I guess if Nintendo could do the best of both worlds wouldn't that ideal? A powerful console that can play the latest shooter as well as Mario and Zelda while still trying to innovate with new ways to play games.

Quantity over quality? :p

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What it means is those are all playable racers now...