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Old 05-30-11 | 09:15 PM
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I'm out.
Old 05-30-11 | 09:25 PM
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Since they are by far the number one franchise, they are the ones than can risk it. And this is, of course, for all the hardcore multiplayers, if they can see value in this. Something like, tools to rank up faster or stuff like that.

Right now, the one the comes to my mind, Bungie Pro is $5 for six months, right? And it's only the availability to have more storage online to share videos and pictures. I expect COD Elite to be $5 monthly max, and it should have this same kind of storage online, special maps (?), but specially, like I said, tools to rank up faster.
Old 05-30-11 | 09:29 PM
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Already pay for a monthly online gaming service, don't want another one.
Old 05-30-11 | 09:31 PM
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I don't mind as long as this is extra content for the hardcore player and doesn't cut content for the average player. But if they're trying to push this on all players, then I don't see it ending well.
Old 05-30-11 | 09:32 PM
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From the link it seems everything will be the same for the rest of us. I mean, still "free" to play MP. I can see how they can limit some maps for Elite only though.
Old 05-30-11 | 10:21 PM
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What I expect them to do, is exactly what more and more games are already doing with DLC.

Instead of actually working on new DLC for a game ...they are finishing a game, taking out parts of it, and selling it as DLC down the road.

What I expect Call of Duty 3 to do is take part of what they would have offered anyway out, and now call it "extra" for those that pay. I am sure they will have one or two nuggets to say "See what you are getting" but in the long run it is a money grab out of the hands of those that think they need it.

They can generate 15 bucks out of 3 maps now. They come out with these maps every 3 months or so, and they sell millions...there does not seem to be ANY saturation going on at all with DLC...which makes you wonder why they don't offer more maps more frequently...

Part of is is the cost of generating those maps I would guess...paying programmers, and development teams...So instead of increasing the frequency of the maps...they are now going to send out maybe a map every other month...offer stat tracking...storage...uploads...ect...

They will STILL have map packs for 15 bucks...and even if you have the service, you will have to pay for it..maybe they offer it for 10 bucks if you are a member, or maybe they go the PSN route and raise the cost to non members for 20 bucks...and keep members at 15...

Thank god I don't give a shit about this service...

I use this quote to much, but throw a frog in hot water he jumps out....put him in cold water and slowly turn the heat up and watch him boil...
Old 05-31-11 | 10:56 AM
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I saw a articale from last December saying the "COD:Black Opps" had rked in almost $1 Billion in worldwide sales. No telling what it is now. You would think or at least have common sense to ask is that not enough?

If this succedes then expect more to come and then what? Someone paying a yearly fee thru a console and then have two, three, four or more other 'special online accounts"? On the other hand is someone say 'Battlefield 3" comes along and says, 'no-way we're adding any pay subscription"...guess where more will go.
Old 05-31-11 | 11:43 AM
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http://oneofswords.com/2011/05/what-...of-duty-elite/

Text in spoilers because of length
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What I Know About Call of Duty: Elite
by DAN on MAY 31, 2011
Remember that announcement of Beachhead, a new Activision studio dedicated to, in the words of Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg, “an innovative new digital platform and social service for our Call of Duty community”? Activision has revealed just what that studio has been working on: Call of Duty: Elite, which will launch this fall, integrated into Modern Warfare 3.

I have been following the project internally for a few months, and I figured that when people heard about it, they would need a lot of information. Many game news outlets have stories about it today with plenty of details, so check your favorite site. Hopefully, this article will also give you what you need to know — and remember, some details will be announced later in the year, so this is a lot of info, but it’s not everything.

Call of Duty: Elite is a service.
Take the best bits of a stat-tracking service, a social network, an interactive strategy guide, and a competitive gaming site, then custom-design all that for the Call of Duty community, and that’s Elite. The three words you’ll hear most often to define the service are Connect, Compete, and Improve . You can create custom leaderboards with friends, learn from detailed stats of your entire CoD career performance, consult expert players, join competitive leagues, win real prizes — lots of stuff. There is a video, “The Legend of Karl,” that gives an overview of what Elite will offer here.


Activision is NOT charging for Call of Duty multiplayer.
Because it needs to be said – over and over, apparently — the COD multiplayer experience you know and love remains exactly as it is now with no additional fees. Elite ties into the multiplayer of both Modern Warfare 3 as well as Black Ops, but that integration is at no cost to you, and nothing is being taken away from the multiplayer experience. Just the opposite — Elite is here to enhance it, and it’s also free.

Call of Duty: Elite is free for all players, and there will be an optional premium membership.
The core functionality of Elite is free — any Call of Duty player will be able to log in and use it for no charge. Additional offerings above and beyond the core stuff will come with a fee. The simplest and best analogy I can think of is television. You can watch NBC, CBS, and ABC all you want, just for the price of buying a TV. However, if you want more — Comedy Central or HBO or NBA League Pass — then you subscribe to a cable or satellite service to get those extra programs. You don’t have to; it’s a question of whether or not you want to see those other shows. If you’re happy with your usual high-quality network television, keep on enjoying it. If you want more content from your TV, you can choose to subscribe to more. Does that make it seem less terrifying?

Premium membership pricing has not been announced.
The fee (and exactly what you will get for it) has not been determined. The team says details will be coming later this summer on exactly what you get and how much that extra stuff will cost. But it’s supposed to be competitive with other digital enteratainment services. Until a real price is announced, if you’re looking for a ballpark, Netflix was name-checked by the Wall Street Journal (which was positively obsessed with the paid portion of the service and kind of ignored all the other stuff), and Netflix is $7.99/month.

DLC will be available as part of Elite as well as a standalone download.
Again, nothing is being taken away and nothing is compulsory — you simply have another choice when it comes to getting DLC. You can buy COD DLC the traditional way — a map pack at a time — or you can automatically get the DLC as part of your Elite premium membership. Chacko Sonny, studio head of Beachhead, makes this extremely clear in an interview that is part of this week’s upcoming podcast: ”If you are the player who wants to purchase DLC seperately, that option is still there — you can go ahead and buy the DLC independent of the premium membership if you want. That said, if you want to purchase the premium membership, get the benefits that will be offered in terms of the features on Elite and get the DLC with it, it will be a great deal for you.”

COD Elite is NOT going to sell players competitive advantages with microtransactions.
If you are worried about someone buying their way into Prestige or Activision selling people special weapons that they wouldn’t normally be able to earn through gameplay, don’t be — that’s not what Elite is about. ”We’re not doing anything like that,” Chacko Sonny says. “It’s not part of the plan.” (Also, for clarity, Elite is not the same thing as the COD free-to-play MMO currently being built for China. That’s a completely different project for a completely different country, and that’s the one that will use microtransactions.)

Elite has been in development for two years already.
While Call of Duty: Elite has been designed to integrate into Modern Warfare 3, it has been developed over the last two years using live data from Black Ops. Everything you’ve done up to this point in Black Ops has been tracked, logged, and will be waiting for you the first time you get to try Elite for yourself.

You can access Elite from many devices.
One of the goals is to let fans interact with Call of Duty when they’re not able to play it — at lunch, on a bus, whatever. If you’re thinking about it, why not pop in and see what’s new on your stats and leaderboards? The web interface is the most obvious way to access Elite, but mobile clients are in development too (hello, iPad), as are console-specific apps.

There is already a OneOfSwords group on COD: Elite.
“I don’t play online because it’s just a bunch of kids/racists/racist kids” is a big (and fair) complaint I hear about COD online. Everybody would prefer to play with gamers who share their sensibilities and interests. So, the first thing I started playing with was the Groups function, which lets you find like-minded gamers and communicate with them. Pick any interest — gardening, zombies, juggling, your town, your school, your sports team — and then type it in. Ta da! You’ve joined a group, or created a new one — it’s just that word with a # in front of it. Anybody can join it just by saying “yeah, that’s me too.” Each group shares a comment wall, all their stats, and can easily organize community nights. Naturally I started a OneOfSwords group, which means everybody can see each other’s stats and laugh at mine. Ad since you can join up to 64 groups at the moment, well, when you get your chance to try Elite, you are required to join. And when will that be? Well…

There will be a free public beta this summer.
Call of Duty: Elite will launch at the same time as Modern Warfare 3 — November 8, 2011, but a public beta will run this summer. Chacko Sonny says this is “not just a teaser, it’s a real beta” — that is, not a beta for marketing purposes the way game betas are sometimes used. The team is looking for how the community uses it and what they like and don’t like, as well as how the service handles the traffic of the COD community. Project Director Noah Heller says the beta will roll out in waves, so if you don’t get in right away, don’t panic — you’ll have more chances as the summer goes on as they open the beta wider and wider. However, he mentioned on my podcast that if you are already signed up at callofduty.com and you’ve been posting in the forums as a dedicated fan, that’s likely to get you in sooner rather than later. And of course, if Elite itself is free, the beta’s free too. If you are interested and want to try it out ASAP, they’re taking signups at http://www.callofduty.com/elite.

That’s the most important parts of what I know so far. There is more to learn, and I will keep finding out stuff — chime in below and I will add more to this document as more details are made clear.
Old 05-31-11 | 11:51 AM
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Elite makes no sense for me personally. After I prestige once, I tend to lose interest in these types of games. For me, it's all about the chase of the next level or goal.
Old 05-31-11 | 11:52 AM
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and you've got to expect the subscription-model for DLC on Elite will be like Playstation Plus. If you let your subscription lapse, then so will your DLC license.
Old 05-31-11 | 01:08 PM
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Doesn't sound so bad after reading the actual description of the service. Looks like everyone jumped the gun to find another reason to hate Activision.
Old 05-31-11 | 01:19 PM
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Here's some screenshots of the service.

Looks similar to what Bungie has been doing for 7 years now, except Activision wants you to pay for it.



Old 05-31-11 | 01:23 PM
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I'm a big stat whore so this sounds cool to me. Hopefully I can finally sort my stats by map. I'll just be enjoying the free version.
Old 05-31-11 | 01:27 PM
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I just don't see how they can say stat tracking or anything they talk about is worth what I get with netflix....
Old 05-31-11 | 01:50 PM
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I just don't see how they can say stat tracking or anything they talk about is worth what I get with netflix....
If I read the previews correctly, the stat tracking part is free anyway.
Old 05-31-11 | 02:00 PM
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If I read the previews correctly, the stat tracking part is free anyway.
so that makes it even stranger that they want us to think the value offered at 8 bucks a month is equal....
Old 05-31-11 | 02:03 PM
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So am I the only one still confused about what they are actually charging for?
Old 05-31-11 | 02:12 PM
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I don't quite get it either. Sounds similar to what Bungie offered with bungie.net & Halo stats + a map subscription.
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So am I the only one still confused about what they are actually charging for?
I don't think even Activision knows quite yet
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screw that noise. no way i pay anything to play console games.
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Not seeing a need for this shit.
Old 06-03-11 | 12:16 AM
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Activision should just charge a fee for multiplayer, because I just don't see how they're going to make money with this.
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Originally Posted by Kenshiro
Activision should just charge a fee for multiplayer, because I just don't see how they're going to make money with this.
For those that's more into single player it wouldn't be worth or needed. And MP players you have the occassional to the insane. But COD is not some wide open world like Warcraft or even DC Universe. I could see if it offered as such maybe but not based on what I've seen so far.


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Old 06-03-11 | 11:56 AM
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Hey Ken, how are you by the way. Are you getting COD and Battlefied 3 and which platforms...360 or PC?
I'll get Modern Warfare for 360, I'm still set on getting BF3 for PC though.

We still need to do Splinter Cell co-op together Buzz.
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