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al_bundy 04-21-11 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10735894)
So if any of this is to be believed is Nintendo going to go against all they learned with the Wii & DS about being profitable on day 1? Or will we get some ridiculous priced Nintendo console for the first time? $250 has been their ceiling since the NES, right?

the output resolutions have been the same for years now, 1080p and 720p. not like from the late 1990's to the middle of the last decade where they went from 300i or so to the current HD resolutions.

i bet the processing and graphics hardware don't have to be that expensive like they used to.

Groucho 04-21-11 12:20 PM

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The screen-in-controllers is a good idea, especially with the growing popularity of co-op games. For instance, imagine an RPG where each player can look at their own stats and inventory without cluttering up the screen. Or poker with all players in the same room.

Of course, this is not new. Dreamcast had the VMU, and Nintendo has had connectivity with it's various handhelds. But if this rumor is true, this would be the first time that this sort of thing was a stock feature and not something sold separately.

fujishig 04-21-11 12:32 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Groucho (Post 10735998)
The screen-in-controllers is a good idea, especially with the growing popularity of co-op games. For instance, imagine an RPG where each player can look at their own stats and inventory without cluttering up the screen. Or poker with all players in the same room.

Of course, this is not new. Dreamcast had the VMU, and Nintendo has had connectivity with it's various handhelds. But if this rumor is true, this would be the first time that this sort of thing was a stock feature and not something sold separately.

Is co-op resurgent, though? I thought online play was much more prevalent, and everyone has their own screen then too... I was bemoaning the lack of use my second controllers get on both Xbox and 360, which is a far cry from, say, the Nintendo 64 where all four controllers frequently got used.

It's cool tech, and I'm sure Nintendo can make it work, I'm just curious how prevalent this is (and how many batteries these controllers are going to suck up)

Michael Corvin 04-21-11 12:55 PM

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Borderlands would be badass with those controllers. Inventory, menus, comparing weapons... :drool:

fumanstan 04-21-11 04:38 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 
http://wii.ign.com/articles/116/1163362p1.html


Additionally, IGN has learned that the system will be based on a revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU architecture, not AMD's Fusion technology as previously believed, which will, as previously reported, out perform the PlayStation 3's NVIDIA 7800GTX-based processor. Like the Xbox 360, the system's CPU will be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset, but the clocking speeds will be faster. The system will support 1080p output with the potential for stereoscopic 3D as well, though it has not been determined whether that will be a staple feature.

In terms of the design of the console itself, the overall size will be comparable to that of the original Xbox 360 and the system is likely to resemble a modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES).

Drexl 04-21-11 07:02 PM

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But remember, 1080p doesn't mean much until we see what resolution the games will actually use. It would have to be a big step over the 360 and PS3 to have 1080p games as the norm.

mhg83 04-21-11 07:48 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10736369)

So this will be the first time an Elder Scrolls game made available on Nintendo and will have the best graphics on it. It's hard to imagine a future like that.

kstublen 04-21-11 07:55 PM

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Hopefully this new console sees Nintendo adopt an easier and more intuitive system for online gaming. I only ever played Mario Kart Wii and Super Smash Bros. Brawl a few times online, and it was pretty inconvenient, compared to the ease with which I can access online gameplay on my PS3.

I'm also wondering exactly how the in-screen controller would work. If it's strictly for stuff like checking maps, selecting weapons, etc. and the gameplay doesn't show up on the screen, it could be a little problematic. I mean, in order to select your weapon or check a map or whatever, you'd have to look away from the main action of the game and consult another screen; if you're doing multiplayer, this could definitely have an adverse effect on you.

Supermallet 04-22-11 12:11 AM

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the system is likely to resemble a modernized version of the Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES).
Damn it, it's like they knew exactly what would get me to buy it.

al_bundy 04-22-11 07:33 AM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Drexl (Post 10736546)
But remember, 1080p doesn't mean much until we see what resolution the games will actually use. It would have to be a big step over the 360 and PS3 to have 1080p games as the norm.

the 360 and PS3 came out when 1080p was only available on the fastest CPU's. these days cheap ARM CPU's in cell phones can output in 1080p. i believe the Intel Atom can upscale SD to 1080p.

even on the PC side you don't need a new GPU to do 1080p resolution

i'm pretty sure all the next gen consoles will come with blu ray and do 1080p on all games without getting warm. the winner of the next generation of consoles will have the best online services

Michael Corvin 04-22-11 08:04 AM

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Additionally, IGN has learned that the system will be based on a revamped version of AMD's R700 GPU architecture, not AMD's Fusion technology as previously believed, which will, as previously reported, out perform the PlayStation 3's NVIDIA 7800GTX-based processor. Like the Xbox 360, the system's CPU will be a custom-built triple-core IBM PowerPC chipset, but the clocking speeds will be faster. The system will support 1080p output with the potential for stereoscopic 3D as well, though it has not been determined whether that will be a staple feature.
This is starting to sound like Nintendo is falling into a Dreamcast scenario where it's better than what's out now, but will easily be eclipsed in 18-24 months by the next Xbox and Playstation. Big difference being Nintendo's innovation and stable of first party franchises.


Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10737004)
Damn it, it's like they knew exactly what would get me to buy it.

Fan of the Nintendo Easy Bake Oven look?

al_bundy 04-22-11 08:29 AM

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PowerPC? i might buy one of these to use as a heater in the winter

pinata242 04-22-11 09:36 AM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10737227)
This is starting to sound like Nintendo is falling into a Dreamcast scenario where it's better than what's out now, but will easily be eclipsed in 18-24 months by the next Xbox and Playstation. Big difference being Nintendo's innovation and stable of first party franchises.

Could be but luckily these consoles are already pushing home theaters to the limits so there's really not a lot of room to one-up each other with output features. It's going to come down to raw power, software support, and unique innovations. I think that every company is doing a good job of entrenching themselves as essential, especially if Nintendo is doing what it seems like they are.

slop101 04-22-11 10:37 AM

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I'm assuming they'll keep the Wii around for the "casuals" and this system will be more geared towards the more "hardcore" gamer market.

fumanstan 04-22-11 11:41 AM

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Nintendo is going the way of Sega :sad:

mattysemo247 04-22-11 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10737589)
Nintendo is going the way of Sega :sad:

I think that would be awesome. One less system to worry about buying and having all of the first party titles for the next X Box and PS system. Playing Super Mario on X Box 720 and Legend of Zelda on PS4. I guess one can dream.

xmiyux 04-22-11 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by mattysemo247 (Post 10737604)
I think that would be awesome. One less system to worry about buying and having all of the first party titles for the next X Box and PS system. Playing Super Mario on X Box 720 and Legend of Zelda on PS4. I guess one can dream.

The problem with that is Nintendo is the one trying to do new things on the hardware front. We need that innovative push.

Michael Corvin 04-22-11 12:15 PM

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Not to mention they are still the only ones that make a reliable system.

Supermallet 04-22-11 05:06 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Michael Corvin (Post 10737227)
Fan of the Nintendo Easy Bake Oven look?

I will cut you. The SNES is the greatest video gaming system ever crafted by the hands of man.

redrum 04-22-11 05:39 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10737589)
Nintendo is going the way of Sega :sad:

the Wii has sold 70 million units

Fandango 04-22-11 06:07 PM

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http://i52.tinypic.com/2lkxova.jpg

Quack 04-22-11 06:20 PM

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-eek- :drool:

slop101 04-22-11 07:03 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10737589)
Nintendo is going the way of Sega :sad:

With the way they've been raking in the cash, they need to have 4-5 console failures in a row in order for them to go the way of Sega.

xmiyux 04-22-11 07:59 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by Suprmallet (Post 10737884)
I will cut you. The SNES is the greatest video gaming system ever crafted by the hands of man.

FYI - you are wrong. The Dreamcast holds that title.

NiCK Crush 04-22-11 08:00 PM

Re: RUMOR - Next Nintendo Console to Be Announced at E3 2011
 

Originally Posted by fumanstan (Post 10737589)
Nintendo is going the way of Sega :sad:

Not the case, at all, actually.


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